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    #26  
    Quote Originally Posted by brmiller1976 View Post
    Uh huh. Suuuuurrrrre.
    I can't tell if your just REALLY into the windows phone coolaid, or just arrogant.
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    I can't figure out why Fandroids have to come in and make up crazy stories about their Lumia 800s with Windows Phone 8.
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    If the GS3 was as bad as it was made out to be in this thread I doubt it would have sold as many millions as it has. I really love WP8 but I think the latest android software is more polished than WP at this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottcraft View Post
    If the GS3 was as bad as it was made out to be in this thread I doubt it would have sold as many millions as it has. I really love WP8 but I think the latest android software is more polished than WP at this time.
    "Polished" is definitely not a word I would use with Android, after having two years, 4 devices and Eclair - JB, however it has come a long way and JB is quite good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charlyee View Post
    "Polished" is definitely not a word I would use with Android, after having two years, 4 devices and Eclair - JB, however it has come a long way and JB is quite good.
    Polished refers to ice cream sandwich and up. I've tried out a Galaxy S3 on ics and a Note 2 on jellybean and they are pretty nice. Actually they are much nicer than my HTC Rezound that's just a year old. I still prefer WP though, it's just very enjoyable to use.
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    Android is definitely more customizable, but it's also not as fluid, clean looking, and simple. It's a good option for those who are tech savvy, even though I consider myself tech savvy and appreciate WP more.
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    How one can be so ignorant and disrespectful to others view is beyond me!

    How about try being nice? Some people in this community needs to grow up!
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    I made an app for windows phone 8, that integrates with the speech API. Every time I ask it something about android, it says Android.... THAT SUCKS.
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    I for one am glad I left Android. The program as a whole has been so perverted from its initial intent that I can't even recognize it anymore. WP8 offers me all of the core applications I need for my day to day lifestyle and then some. Android and Apple have huge app markets, but when you subtract all the iterations of talking hippos and cats, you really aren't left with THAT much. On top of that, even JB still has some major connectivity flaws, overflows and memory leaks.
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    I had an Android before Wp8 (HTC one S) and it was very smooth. But then again HTC had modified it so it never really multi-tasked which explains that. I would imagine it would have slowed down after a while with all the apps running in the background.


    But it still had it's moments of lag. It would occasionally lag in the Dialer and would lag sometimes just going to the homescreen. And the default browser and keyboard are the worst! You want to see lag just open the default browser and use pinch to zoom. So I downloaded Chrome but that has major lag when browsing in desktop mode. Try looking at an article on The Verge that has hundreds of comments and watch your Android come to it's knees. I replaced the keyboard with SwiftKey and it was very good but was glitchy when it came to typing in forums like this one. All this stuff works fine on my 8X.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adamopinheiro View Post
    Yes, I needed an update to stop my Titan from rebooting and having connectivity issues. My friends wouldn't whatsapp me anymore because I it always freezed and I never got the messages. The phone used to reboot from time to time. I had to have a car charger because the phone wouldn't stand a full day of use.

    In the other hand, my newly bought Android flies, is totally fluid and did not crash once until now. The battery is waay better compared to the Titan. And it is not even a flagship phone.

    spazzmaster is totally right, I bought my phone bloatware free, unlocked. My sister's SII got updated as well, no complaints about that.
    Your Note is bloatware free huh? So it's running vanilla Android without Samsungs nasty Touchwiz UI laid over top?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brmiller1976 View Post
    I can't figure out why Fandroids have to come in and make up crazy stories about their Lumia 800s with Windows Phone 8.
    What's the title of this subforum again?

    I though it was General Microsoft News and Discussion, I must have made a wrong turn and stumbled into Android Central.
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    Your Note is bloatware free huh? So it's running vanilla Android without Samsungs nasty Touchwiz UI laid over top?
    I didn't know custom user interfaces were considered bloatware.....
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    That's the convenient excuse I always heard every time my GS 3 would crash.

    "Oh, that's not REAL Android, the cause of the crash is the TouchWiz UI."

    Of course, "real" Android handsets represent less than 2% of all Android devices out there. Go figure.

    And no, I'm not going to apologize or stop criticizing Android's MANY failings to "be nice." If you want an atmosphere free of criticism of Android, Android Central is over there -------------------->
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    Quote Originally Posted by robstunner View Post
    I didn't know custom user interfaces were considered bloatware.....
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    Were you not around when the first phones with HTC Sense came out for Android? Lag is a known issue.
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    Were not talking about lag were talking about bloatware. I've had enough androids, iPhones and windows phones to know the pluses and minuses. Some hatred can be warranted, but many people here love to hate android more than they love to enjoy their windows phone it seems.
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    Bloatware causes lag. Duh.

    And most of us hate Android because we were stuck using that Godawful system for so long. Windows Phone after a couple years of Android is like a jug of fresh-squeezed chilled lemonade after a decade in ****.
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    Everybody has there own choice. My last android was the sensation then I moved to the 710 now the 920. I love windows it fits all my needs. I know I personally left android because I just got tired of xda didn't have time to keep up with the roms and kernels. OEMs lack of updates just wasn't what I wanted anymore.
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    This thread is funny... Android is a good OS if you know how to properly use it. Do I recommend it, No. I love Windows Phone but do I recommend it, No. If you want apps just for the sake of apps then yes Android and Iphones is good. If you want a phone that works seamlessly and has potential then I say go with Windows Phone. The issue with this thread is we're comparing an OS five years in the making to an OS 2 years in the making. Like comparing a 5 year old to a 2 year old. They're both Good OSes, I've started recommending Tablets because people now and days want their phones to be computers and I say simply just get a Tablet like Mini Ipad; Nexus 7. Sheesh.
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    Meh. I'm not going to argue but I enjoyed my android phones. Most recently was the one x and I wouldn't have a problem going back to it, however I do enjoy my Nokia at the moment. It wasn't god awful in my opinion in the least, but everyone is entitled to one.
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    I hated the One X. I gave it time to settle in with me and the only thing that I truly enjoyed was the camera. The One X couldn't properly multitask. If I had more than 4 apps open at the same time it would stutter in addition to shutting down one or more of those apps. HTC did this intentionally, of course, to provide as much memory to Sense UI as it could to avoid any sense of lag operating the menus. There was great debate over this when the One X first game out. One issue with custom UI's is the fact that updates are slower to arrive on these devices compared to one that is straight Android with no fillers or additives. Anyone that has owned an HTC device, a Samsung or Motorola device with Sense, Blur and TouchWiz know what I'm talking about. iPhone users don't have this problem immediately because they generally run the same generation of software provided they are still in the supported cycle phase of their life span. Windows Phone users don't have this problem because there is generally one major OS / revision running. BlackBerry users don't encounter this much at all either.

    So yes, it's fair to suggest that a custom UI is bloatware. Starting from Gingerbread, the Android interface has been easy to operate. I think that Ice Cream Sandwich and now Jelly Bean have caused a few missteps in the evolution of the OS. The development of Android and Android-based devices occurs at a frightening pace. You can't go more than a quarter in the business world without seeing yet another high-end release from the likes of Motorola, Samsung and HTC. Phones shouldn't be obsolete five seconds after owning them. I shouldn't have to flip on the TV or go to my favorite sites and see the One X+ or the Lumia 920 has been released and it hasn't been much more than six months from launch of the One X and 900. But, to keep up with the Jones's you need to always do one better. Nokia still takes care of its customers - the Lumia 900 brought me into the Windows Phone fold and I still have my 900 to this day. (My daughter is using it) The level of support and involvement in this company compared to what I've seen with Samsung, HTC and Googlrola is suspect.

    Computers last two-three years, why can't modern cellphones?
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    Because the cell providers insist on overlays and to be frank, they want you to use that 2 year upgrade as soon as your eligible. My one x was great after the first update was released and multitasking was improved. Either way I ran cm10 on it but that was a whole other can of worms. Either way, gotta go now as I leave my Lumia on the charger because it dropped from 32% to 0% in my pocket over the course of 15 minutes. :-\
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    I don't think the carriers insist on overlays -- that's something that the phone OEMs do to "differentiate," the idea being that all Android devices are the same without a lovely "custom skin."
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    I don't think the carriers insist on overlays -- that's something that the phone OEMs do to "differentiate," the idea being that all Android devices are the same without a lovely "custom skin."
    Motorola came out an said Verizon requests a custom skin as they tried making it as aosp as possible.
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    Not so. "Blur" was a codename for a differentiated Android skin since before the Verizon deal was inked. Motorola ended up naming it "Blur" because the names that marketing came up with weren't as compelling in focus groups. Motorola ended up bumping Palm's Pre Plus into "also-ran status" with the Droid due to promising a "better than iPhone UI" and a differentiated experience via custom skins.

    Once that happened, "skins" became the accepted way to differentiate an Android handset, and the accursed race began.
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