- 01-25-2013, 01:53 AM #51
- 01-25-2013, 03:53 AM #53
Google must develop Android without making any assumptions about the underlying hardware. As a result, they can make absolutely no hardware based performance optimizations. They leave this up to OEM's, which invest as little in this area as possible. On low end devices such efforts are skipped entirely, as doing so is extremely costly.
Microsoft has no such restrictions. They know exactly what hardware the OS will run on (exclusively Qualcomm S4) and they use that knowledge to squeeze every last drop of performance out of the SoC that they possibly can. Those optimizations exist on all levels, and aren't just restricted to drivers as on Android. This explains why Microsoft could squeeze jellybean level UI performance out of a 2008 era SoC on WP7, which was laughably underpowered compared to the Android competition, yet performed better. WP OEM's need do nothing more than install it... no optimization work required, whatsoever.
- 01-26-2013, 05:02 AM #55
- 01-26-2013, 05:20 AM #56
This phone? It isn't new and didn't come with Jelly Bean out of the box. http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/24/a...s-n880e-smart/
New low end devices ship with dual cores. Ultra budget phones launch with 1ghz and can be found at gas stations for 49.99 that's beyond low end lol.
- 01-26-2013, 06:21 AM #57
EDIT: Many more devices with the exact same hardware configuration will hit the market in 2013. In that sense the device might just as well be new. That hardware configuration isn't going away anytime soon.
Last edited by a5cent; 01-26-2013 at 06:42 AM.
- 01-26-2013, 11:32 AM #58
I can't argue with you on that however Samsung is so savvy that they have dual cores matching the competitors low end devices.
Samsung also makes non smartphones too(They quietly killed Bada).
- 01-27-2013, 09:56 AM #59
- 01-27-2013, 12:04 PM #61
In regard to being savvy ... No. Samsung isn't more savvy than anyone else. Their advantage over other Android OEM's stems from the following:
better economic scaling due to higher volume (leads to higher margins or lower prices).
much larger software budget that they invest into better hardware/software integration and QA (reliability and performance).
comparatively huge marketing investments (public image).
Freestaterocker is absolutely correct about the point I'm trying to get across. It's all about the software.
Hardware engineering isn't an area in which Samsung's mobile division outshines everyone else (build quality is debatable, but I'm talking only about their devices core hardware)
Although Samsung does well in the software/hardware integration department, what they can achieve with Android is child's play compared to what Apple and Microsoft have done. No amount of savvyness can compensate for the advantages offered by standardized hardware. What can compensate for Android's disadvantage is more powerful hardware, but that isn't available at the low end.
Apple appears unwilling to compete at the low end, which leaves a hole for WP to exploit. That has been my point all along.
- 01-27-2013, 12:36 PM #63
Lol what is this blasphemy about battery life? My battery on my 920 barely lasts twelve hours on a charge now with light use, while my friend's Atrix 4G running on Jellybean rom lasts well over twenty four. That's with a smaller battery too. Granted the Lumia processor is a little beefier, but its also supposedly more efficient.
- 01-27-2013, 12:45 PM #65
920 does seem to suffer from very inconsistent battery performance. There is something really fishy going on, likely related to LTE, the OS and installed apps, although I'm just guessing here.
- 01-27-2013, 05:10 PM #66
- 01-27-2013, 05:54 PM #67
- 01-27-2013, 06:40 PM #69
- 01-27-2013, 08:05 PM #70
- 01-27-2013, 08:12 PM #71
i dont think android is falling apart but i think there will be a big shake up this year with samsung trying to go solo with tizen os that has been reported, but also lets see what johnny ives brings to ios.
edit: and google finally going moto on the nexus program.
- 01-27-2013, 08:15 PM #72
- 01-27-2013, 08:22 PM #73
And here it is!
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something is wrong with your battery, if I don't leave my phone on the wireless pad I lose about 6-7% while sleeping. On a hard day of use I will have 40% remaining when I leave for home, from the time I use it as an alarm at 6:30 am.
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