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    So, I found this article about Google integrating Google Talk into BB10 at launch: BB 10 Twitter and Google Talk app integration leaks ahead of launch

    If I remember correctly, doesn't RIM have lower market numbers than WP8? I feel like there's a double standard being played here from Google. Thoughts from anyone else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bawboh86 View Post
    If I remember correctly, doesn't RIM have lower market numbers than WP8? I feel like there's a double standard being played here from Google. Thoughts from anyone else?
    You don't know the deal behind this. If Google gets some kind of compensation, that would never happen with Microsoft. Microsoft wants Bing on its platform and I'm not sure how interested they really are in getting Google products to run on Windows Phone.

    Also, there are this patent fees producers of Android products have to pay Microsoft for every phone. That's a great basis for producing tension
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    I think Google Talk has some public APIs that can be used by 3rd parties. Maybe Microsoft just chose not to add Google Talk into their OS?
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    Yea I understand, I just read today Google already have Google Talk apps, the whole 9, for BB 10. And that piece of **** platform not even out yet. Talk about business practices.
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    It is a possibility that Google doesn't have a single hand in this and that RIM just baked it in themselves. It just caught me off guard to see that it would have support in BB10 but not in Windows Phone.

    Chregu, I think I'm leaning more towards MS doesn't want it baked in to the OS more than the licensing. I know that Google manufacturers are having to pay the licensing, but I don't think Google themselves are. Then again, I'm no insider here, just an outside observer making his own ideas based on the limited knowledge presented.
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    Google is going to loose this little battle with MS. The way I look at it, I have invested money in MS with hardware. I have not invested any money in google software. I will dump Google before I dump MS. Am I the only one that sees it this way? I'm already in the process of getting everything Google out of my life. They are just making it difficult to use their services.
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    Google Talk is accessible via XMPP.

    Same protocol as Facebook Chat, Live Messenger, etc.

    It wouldn't be hard for Microsoft to just turn this on. It's a choice by Microsoft.
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    Microsoft can implement Google Talk if they want to. Instead they went with WLM (go figure). So not really a double standard that I can see here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ammarmalik2011 View Post
    Microsoft can implement Google Talk if they want to. Instead they went with WLM (go figure). So not really a double standard that I can see here.
    True. It may very well be RIM making their own solution inside the OS.
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    Skype is the future of messaging at Microsoft. It is a superior product to the collection of google crap and is used more world wide than google talk that's for sure.
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    never used google except for the search app, my gmail is reserved for spam mail and less important subscriptions :)) Yahoo mail (still use yahoo messenger haha) or outlook is the way to go
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    Quote Originally Posted by inteller View Post
    Skype is the future of messaging at Microsoft. It is a superior product to the collection of google crap and is used more world wide than google talk that's for sure.
    I really like Skype and have been using it for years, but it is in no way superior to Google+ Hangouts. Sorry, but it doesn't even come close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inteller View Post
    Skype is the future of messaging at Microsoft. It is a superior product to the collection of google crap and is used more world wide than google talk that's for sure.
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    I had a 5 way video conversation with my friends on Google Hangout last week. Call me when Skype has the ability to do that. Until then kthxbye k?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bawboh86 View Post
    If I remember correctly, doesn't RIM have lower market numbers than WP8? I feel like there's a double standard being played here from Google. Thoughts from anyone else?
    Um... I think RIM is at 7% Market Share. Windows Phone has like 2%...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ammarmalik2011 View Post
    I had a 5 way video conversation with my friends on Google Hangout last week. Call me when Skype has the ability to do that. Until then kthxbye k?
    Q&A: Skype Videochats With a Group - NYTimes.com
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    ^^ZING!
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    Quote Originally Posted by spyderzWPC View Post
    Try a Skype group video chat on mobile. Or don't, because it's not there.

    Google+ Hangouts not only allow me to take part in a group video chat on mobile, I can initiate the video chat on mobile as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spyderzWPC View Post
    Skype Premium - $9 a month. Hangouts - $0 a month. Hangouts wins. The latter is also much smoother on lower bandwidth connections. Hangouts is usable over 3G for me, Skype can barely maintain audio clarity, never mind keep up with video.

    Also, $9 may not seem like much to most people, but here in India where I pay $20 for 10 Mbps unlimited broadband, it's quite a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ag1986 View Post
    Skype Premium - $9 a month. Hangouts - $0 a month. Hangouts wins. The latter is also much smoother on lower bandwidth connections. Hangouts is usable over 3G for me, Skype can barely maintain audio clarity, never mind keep up with video.

    Also, $9 may not seem like much to most people, but here in India where I pay $20 for 10 Mbps unlimited broadband, it's quite a bit.
    the op didn't ask who wins. He said call me when Skype can do 5 man video call and the answer is Skype can do that and it was proven by an article. Of course since the original question was answered you're gonna take it to the next lvl and say something that had nothing to do with the original question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tebugg View Post
    the op didn't ask who wins. He said call me when Skype can do 5 man video call and the answer is Skype can do that and it was proven by an article. Of course since the original question was answered you're gonna take it to the next lvl and say something that had nothing to do with the original question.
    yeah I didn't mean a solution where I'd pay freakin $10 per month for this. And is this even available on the mobile version?
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    You never mentioned price, ok, thx, bye.
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    Please Don't feed the Android trolls that live in the forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DallasFann View Post
    Please Don't feed the Android trolls that live in the forums.
    yeah, don't. because some of them might actually make sense and then you'd have to come up with a logical answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tebugg View Post
    the op didn't ask who wins. He said call me when Skype can do 5 man video call and the answer is Skype can do that and it was proven by an article. Of course since the original question was answered you're gonna take it to the next lvl and say something that had nothing to do with the original question.
    Ok, fine. Your point is a technicality, however it is strictly correct and so well taken. The spirit of OP's question was essentially which is better. And comparing service A which has feature foo where one pays a non-trivial fee to service B which provides feature foo1 with identical functionality for free leads me to conclude that service B is better. This is not an answer to OP's post nor is it strictly relevant to the thread topic. But who of us would live in a world where forum threads stayed strictly on topic :D
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