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    Quote Originally Posted by Techblogger View Post
    lol at instagram love. lol
    it's not even that I am "obsessed" with instagram or anything, ive never even had a device capable of uploading to it, but it's what Blackberry getting it before us would stand for. it basically shows that WP either isn't trying or isn't even in the minds of developers. BB10 comes out after WP8 and already has more signature apps? that's all that the majority of consumers need to hear to forget about WP
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    The only thing I don't like about the BB10 OS is the UI; otherwise it's just simply a more capable OS at this point and the ability to easily port Android apps is a huge plus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkoman4 View Post
    If it doesn't work on the Playbook, that doesn't mean it won't work on BB10. I am most certain this is sideloaded app. Still, that is great.
    The reason for not working is that the Android runtime in BB does not support native Android code; only java based apps work. Hence Instagram is not Android version. Also as many have pointed out, the Android version has a back button, whereas this one doesn't.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by spaulagain View Post
    Maybe you should ask yourself the same. BB10 does not "rock." Its decent but nothing special.
    It kinda does, sorry
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    Quote Originally Posted by odoggyfresh View Post
    it's not even that I am "obsessed" with instagram or anything, ive never even had a device capable of uploading to it, but it's what Blackberry getting it before us would stand for. it basically shows that WP either isn't trying or isn't even in the minds of developers. BB10 comes out after WP8 and already has more signature apps? that's all that the majority of consumers need to hear to forget about WP
    Yes but you guys have NETFLIX!!
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    Yes but all those android apps suck butt
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    Quote Originally Posted by ttsoldier View Post
    What exactly is the difference between a ported app and the "real app".

    Won't it function the same?

    The same difference you get when making out with a girlfriend VS a sex doll.
    Last edited by Abhishekpandey; 02-04-2013 at 07:20 AM. Reason: Forgot Adding Quote Text
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    IMO no one will die if they fail to open Instagram on there phones, i also accept the fact that having a WP doesn't make us superior.
    If i talk about how dangerous BB10 is to WP then i would wait until i get one in my hand.
    Let's be honest if MS wants the customers they will make em, if they don't care enough customers will choose another platform sooner or later.
    I have Androids, IOS devices and own WP7 & 8 , There have been times when i miss not being able to play certain games or have certain apps on my phone.
    But that is what we have all felt on every platform we have been.
    I think MS and WP8 and fairly new, they need time and certainly are capable of having any app ever published on any other OS.
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    I weep for humanity when I see people excited about a communication device. Tom Jasper needs to get laid. If that's not possible, Tom Jasper should ask Thorsten Heins if he wants a RIM job. If that's not possible, Tom Jasper should get a life. If that's not possibe, Tom Jasper should think about running full speed into an oncomming train. Tom Jasper: Troll Of Trolls....and a pathetic excuse for everything normal.

    This useless thread need to be closed.
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    Well, if this doesn't get Microsoft off it's ***, nothing will.

    I'm guardedly optimistic.

    One of them has to succeed though and I'm not blindly loyal to Windows Phone. I want to see Windows Phone win, but if Blackberry is doing amazing things by the end of 2013 and Windows Phone is the same as it is now, there's a fair chance my next phone will be a Blackberry.
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    Unless RIM added active sync, it's still going no where in the business world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by socialcarpet View Post
    Well, if this doesn't get Microsoft off it's ***, nothing will.

    I'm guardedly optimistic.

    One of them has to succeed though and I'm not blindly loyal to Windows Phone. I want to see Windows Phone win, but if Blackberry is doing amazing things by the end of 2013 and Windows Phone is the same as it is now, there's a fair chance my next phone will be a Blackberry.
    If I have to witness that scenario, I might as well buy I heart Justin Beiber t-shirt.
    But, yes these are my exact thoughts too. 2010-2013 : if Windows Phone is at operating at the same pace, this marathon isn't running one, it's walking marathon.

    Now that BB10 is touch screen one too, I will give BBM a whirl this Christmas. Please share you BBM pin if you do go ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerseySal View Post
    I weep for humanity when I see people excited about a communication device. Tom Jasper needs to get laid. If that's not possible, Tom Jasper should ask Thorsten Heins if he wants a RIM job. If that's not possible, Tom Jasper should get a life. If that's not possibe, Tom Jasper should think about running full speed into an oncomming train. Tom Jasper: Troll Of Trolls....and a pathetic excuse for everything normal.

    This useless thread need to be closed.
    Sal, please don't hold back. Tell us how you REALLY feel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerseySal View Post
    I weep for humanity when I see people excited about a communication device. Tom Jasper needs to get laid. If that's not possible, Tom Jasper should ask Thorsten Heins if he wants a RIM job. If that's not possible, Tom Jasper should get a life. If that's not possibe, Tom Jasper should think about running full speed into an oncomming train. Tom Jasper: Troll Of Trolls....and a pathetic excuse for everything normal.

    This useless thread need to be closed.
    Some ones looking to get banned lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobert_123 View Post
    Some ones looking to get banned lol
    Tom Jasper is quite clearly a troll, but the best thing to do with a troll is ignore them.
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    If Microsoft were to make WP8 compatible with Android apps, Microsoft could not make smartphones with anyone who manufactures Android phones per Google's TOS for use of the play store.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ticomfreak View Post
    If Microsoft were to make WP8 compatible with Android apps, Microsoft could not make smartphones with anyone who manufactures Android phones per Google's TOS for use of the play store.
    Even with ToS, why would you want WP loaded with Android ports? It would be worse than a pretty 17 year old finding acne on her face!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockstarzzz View Post
    Even with ToS, why would you want WP loaded with Android ports? It would be worse than a pretty 17 year old finding acne on her face!
    agree
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    FYI there are quite a few unofficial sideload that work perfectly well. I wish envious people would stop spreading misinformation to make themselves feel better.

    Secondly, my current daily driver IS android, so I know the difference between badly working sideload and working ones.

    Lastly, due to side loading my potential number of good apps will probably triple what WP8 has in their app store by the end of this year.

    Here's what I won't have: developers abandoning ship left and right, a non existent notification hub, devices built by 3+ manufacturers all with different update schedules, and Live Tiles that... Aren't, really.

    Now pardon me while I go check out all the lines that have been reported as forming across the country this morning for the Z10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by omniusovermind View Post
    FYI there are quite a few unofficial sideload that work perfectly well. I wish envious people would stop spreading misinformation to make themselves feel better.

    Secondly, my current daily driver IS android, so I know the difference between badly working sideload and working ones.

    Lastly, due to side loading my potential number of good apps will probably triple what WP8 has in their app store by the end of this year.

    Here's what I won't have: developers abandoning ship left and right, a non existent notification hub, devices built by 3+ manufacturers all with different update schedules, and Live Tiles that... Aren't, really.

    Now pardon me while I go check out all the lines that have been reported as forming across the country this morning for the Z10.
    Wow, troll posts are gaining quality these days on our forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ttsoldier View Post
    What exactly is the difference between a ported app and the "real app".

    Won't it function the same?
    There is a lot of mis-use of technical phrases in explaining BB10's android runtimes.

    Android's Dalvik engine is open source --- so RIM grabbed the open source codes and ported them to QNX. When you have the original source code, it is called a direct port --- not an "emulator" as most people stated in the past 2 years regarding Playbook's Android runtime. The speed of a pure "java-esque" Android app (basic apps like imdb) will be the same in an Android phone/tablet vs in a Z10/Playbook.

    Pure java-esque Android apps can be "repackaged" to run on a Playbook/BB10 --- which is basically taking your Android app installation file (in Google's "zip" format), use winzip to unzip your single installation zip file into 100 different individual files, and then use winrar to compress the 100 different individual files back down into a single BB10 installation file (in Blackberry's "rar" format). That's it --- that's repackaging.

    You don't need access to the original source code --- so anybody can basically grab a pure java-esque android app (from torrents), repackage it and then sideload into a BB10. Because this kind of illegal repackaging is done WITHOUT the original source code, end-user experience will be sub-optimal. Fonts and buttons can be too big or too small --- because different screen resolutions. If there is a button in the original android app to launch the Google Play store and the BB10 doesn't have the Google Play store --- when you press that button in your repackaged app in the BB10 phone, the repackaged app will hang.

    But if you are the original Android app developer and you have the original source code to your pure java-esque android app --- all you need to do is to fix a few issues with font sizes and delete a few "features" (like the launch button to the Google Play Store).

    What the Playbook/BB10's Android runtime cannot do is to run Android apps that contain native c/c++ codes --- i.e. Android's version of Angry Birds will never be able to run on the Playbook/BB10. All 4 Angry Birds games on Playbook for the last year have been pure native Playbook apps.
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