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    New version almost ready, expect to send it to Microsoft tonight, so you all will most likely get an new BETA-link-email from me in a couple of days.

    WHAT'S NEW:
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    You can also see the release plan directly in the app from About-page

    Thanks again for all the feedback!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronny Gydar View Post
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    Each of the digit-keys on the dialpad will search as several characters, so pressing the 2-button once, will actually search with A, B, C, , and several more characters.

    You can see the characters mapped to each key under "ADVANCED" in the settings page in the app, but here it is summarized so it is easy to give me feedback on this.

    I have just added keys I thought is the ones used in other countries, and guessed what digit they should be mapped against. I am sure I have made some stupid assumptions here :)

    1-key
    1-_()[]@[SPACE]

    2-key
    2ABC

    3-key
    3DEF

    4-key
    4GHI

    5-key
    5JKL

    6-key
    6MNO

    7-key
    7PQRSẞ

    8-key
    8TUV

    9-key
    9WXYZ

    0-key
    0+

    REPLY TO THIS IF YOU FEEL THAT I SHOULD HAVE ADDED MORE CHARACTERS TO SOME KEYS, OR THAT SOME KEYS HAVE THE WRONG CHARACTERS.
    Only thing I was hoping for was to utilize the "0" for a space, but could get used to keys as they are... That is the only thing i would have wanted different than current config... :) I am a USA user, if that makes any difference (sometimes we see "0" used as a space key on some devices...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronny Gydar View Post
    NOTE: THE BETA IS NOW FULL
    (I can not add more than the 100 that I have sent confirmation mail to)


    You'll find a teaser-video for this BETA here:


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    BACK STORY:
    My mum got herself an Nokia Lumia 800, which is her first smartphone. I was a bit afraid it would be a too big step from her old "dumb phone". Especially since she is in her 60's and have arthritis, so I thought a small touchscreen would not work to well.

    But she loved almost everything about it...except making phone calls. That was the only thing that she felt she could do easier with her "old phone", with big physical buttons, and not many taps before she had found any contact.

    The whole people hub experience confused her, and it was just to many steps, and too much "tiny text".

    So that was ONE incentive to make a easier "dialing-app".

    The OTHER was several friends who have WP7, and love it, but they too complained about the same. "Why is calling with this thing so damn cumbersome, when everything else is so easy?". We all missed the great "smart dialing"-functionality from Windows Mobile. Beats me why Microsoft just did not add that to the dialer in WP7?

    There are several "smart dialer"-apps out there...but they often don't find everything (does not search the fields I want them to search), or they have complex interface, or are not fast enough, or they do not give me the options I want when I have found the contact.

    MY GOALS WITH THE APP:
    • Easy to use (mum is new to this "smartphone thing")
    • Option for large text (mum's eyesight)
    • Option for enormous keyboard (mum's arthritis)
    • Maximize layout for two things, keyboard and search results
    • Find anyone (search any field)
    • Intelligent ordering of the search results...so what I look for typically are shown at top
    • FIRST: hits in beginning of names
    • SECOND: hits in beginning of other fields on the contact
    • THIRD: hits INSIDE of name/fields
    • (and order that third one alpabetically, can be many)
    • Support international characters (in Norway we have for example)
    • Show all info on a contact (notes++)
    • Let me call
    • Let me text
    • Let me mail
    • Let me open a persons web page
    • Show addresses on a map with "navigate to"-button
    • Let me forward contact information
    • And let me customize a lot of stuff...without forcing me to customize a lot of stuff
    • Must be fast and responsive (hopefully also with thousands of contacts)
    • Look "nice"
    • Look Metro'ish



    THE NEXT STEP
    So far the app has been tested by myself, my mum, and approx 10 friends and collegues of mine.

    Now I feel the need for some wider testing, maybe someone who have a huge amount of contacts...to see how that affects everything.

    And maybe someone from countries with "special characters" (France, Spain, Germant, Iceland, Denmark, Sweden, so forth), so I can make sure I map the "right characters" to each "dial-key".

    Or just "some random guy or gal", to get a different perspective on how the app is working.

    The app have english and Norwegian language, and in theory it supports all characters, but I am not sure if I have mapped all to the "natural dial key" though.

    BETA-testers do not have to report back to me, but the goal is of course to get some feedback. So I can improve and add to the app.

    I want to keep the app itself easy to use, so that is a main focus...but I am open to any suggestion you might have ;)


    NAME OF THE APP:
    I currently plan to call the app "People search" outside of Norway, and call it "Finn folk" in Norway.
    But I am open to good suggestions also in that area...actually...I am open to good suggestions in any area :)
    Absolutely LOOOOOVE the teaser-trailer!! Hahaha reminds me of my mom too!!! :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronny Gydar View Post
    In the current version there are two ways to group the contact details when you view a contact

    One is by activity:
    A "CALL"-segment, with all phonenumbers you can call
    A "MESSAGING"-segment, with mobilenumbers (texting) and emails.
    An "OPEN"-segment, with web pages
    A "ROUTE PLANNING"-segment, with the street addresses


    The other is "home/work":
    First "MOBILE"-segment, with both "text" and "call"
    Then "HOME"-segment, with phonenumbers, emails and street addresses
    Then "WORK"-segment, with phonenumbers, emails and street addresses
    Then "WEB"-segment (since web sites have no home/work category)

    Any opinions on this is appreciated. What do people prefer? Maybe some other grouping? Now I have set "by activity" as the default. Important to have the default settings of the app to what "most people prefer"...since a lot of people never go into the settings screen anyway.

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    I think ur grouping options are excellent!! This is such a well thought out application, and as for myself, I appreciate the options/settings control!! The more the better!! I find myself using a lot of the defaults too, but options are good for user-base preference... I actually prefer the home/work grouping myself as many of my contacts have multiple info in fields... I don't pick the wrong one nearly as often this way, bc I sometimes forget which is which (home or work) too dependent on my tech these days!! Hahaha
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    I thought I would comment on the mapping and navigation since I saw you were having some issues... I am a USA user (Houston, TX), and have no troubles at all!! Works perfectly and accurately with my HD7 Device!! The only thing, and this may not be associated to the app, but it takes a bit to actually display the navigation... Mapping is VERY fast, maybe nav just has a bit more info to pull?? Such as GPS location(s) and best route, etc?... Also, to comment on a before-mentioned item, the accent colors; thru both releases, this far, my hacked-accents work as expected... I can see if a color was changed (and I haven't tried this quote yet) that it might act differently, but NEW color configs work as expected for sure (prob due to a complete registry profile for said color, yeah?) haha vs. just changing tile accent/text accent on OS, that is... Anyway, I really appreciate the newer selections via settings menu (again, I am very fond of control and preference, when available) in the latest release!! This app will definitely replace my people hub for searching... But I guess I will have to use the hub for all inbound reply/returns... Ah well, gives me a little variety, and not much to hunting down, as I keep this app, people, phone, and msging all grouped (and in folders via homebrew)... Great job Ronnie/Ronny (sorry, wasn't sure of correct spelling there). :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siggystyle View Post
    Only thing I was hoping for was to utilize the "0" for a space, but could get used to keys as they are... That is the only thing i would have wanted different than current config... :) I am a USA user, if that makes any difference (sometimes we see "0" used as a space key on some devices...
    So you want the "0"-key to search as "space"?

    No problem for me to do that. Was no big reason for it ending up on the 1-button...had to put it somewhere :)

    Will change it in next version so "0" searches as "space".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siggystyle View Post
    I think ur grouping options are excellent!! This is such a well thought out application, and as for myself, I appreciate the options/settings control!! The more the better!! I find myself using a lot of the defaults too, but options are good for user-base preference... I actually prefer the home/work grouping myself as many of my contacts have multiple info in fields... I don't pick the wrong one nearly as often this way, bc I sometimes forget which is which (home or work) too dependent on my tech these days!! Hahaha
    I do the same myself, I use the "home/work"-grouping...it was actually the one I made first...and then I got feedback from my friends (who were the first testers) that they thought that was absolutely not how they liked it, and I added the "call/messaging"-grouping....which even ended up as default.

    But some of us prefer "home/work" :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siggystyle View Post
    I thought I would comment on the mapping and navigation since I saw you were having some issues... I am a USA user (Houston, TX), and have no troubles at all!! Works perfectly and accurately with my HD7 Device!! The only thing, and this may not be associated to the app, but it takes a bit to actually display the navigation... Mapping is VERY fast, maybe nav just has a bit more info to pull?? Such as GPS location(s) and best route, etc?... Also, to comment on a before-mentioned item, the accent colors; thru both releases, this far, my hacked-accents work as expected... I can see if a color was changed (and I haven't tried this quote yet) that it might act differently, but NEW color configs work as expected for sure (prob due to a complete registry profile for said color, yeah?) haha vs. just changing tile accent/text accent on OS, that is... Anyway, I really appreciate the newer selections via settings menu (again, I am very fond of control and preference, when available) in the latest release!! This app will definitely replace my people hub for searching... But I guess I will have to use the hub for all inbound reply/returns... Ah well, gives me a little variety, and not much to hunting down, as I keep this app, people, phone, and msging all grouped (and in folders via homebrew)... Great job Ronnie/Ronny (sorry, wasn't sure of correct spelling there). :/
    Thanks, gotten some emails too, from English- and US-testers who all are happy with the NavigateTo. So I guess it is a reason for why Microsoft really has turned this functionality off in Norway :)

    I agree that the NavigateTo seem very slow, it is a bit out of my hands, since I there just send "here is an address", and "here is the actual GPS-position for that address" and ask the Bing maps app to show a navigation instructions to it.

    It must be something with the Bing service itself, since getting a phones position usually is superfast on WP7.

    I will look into handling "hacked" accent-colors perfectly at a later stage. But I will look into it :)
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    I must apologize for using the TO-field with all the email-addresses on my previous BETA-link mail, should of course have used the BCC-field.

    My excuse is that I have been "seriously sick" the last 10 days due to a infection in my jawbone, and the dentist actually did a root canal treatment in the WRONG TOOTH...TWICE...kid U not...it has been a seriously bad week for me :)

    I had prepared the BETA-mail...but added the e-mail-addresses right before sending it, and I was a bit "drugged down on pain-killers" when sending the mail...so I messed up the BCC-/TO-thingy.

    I seem to finally be getting better now, so within a day or two I will continue my WP7-work :)
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    When using Navigate To option with an address with accented characters (eg. Chaf), these characters are not passed correctly to End field of map directions: eg. "Chaf" become "Chaf(C)" (copyrjght symbol).
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    When using Navigate To option with an address with accented characters (eg. Chaf), these characters are not passed correctly to End field of map directions: eg. "Chaf" become "Chaf(C)" (copyrjght symbol).
    Thanks for feedback!

    I have not found a way around that yet, but at least when I see this with Norwegian characters () Bing shows it correctly after a while, when the route plan is made.

    I guess I just will need to investigate that one more, or report a bug to Microsoft.

    Since NavigateTo does not work so well in some regions/countries, I have put more effort into the ShowOnMap-functionality, so now it is a better alternative to the NavigateTo-functionality.
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    Next version has now been sent to Microsoft, and should be in your hands within 2-3 days.

    This version is so much more polished and complete than the one you all have, that I see this one as a possible "release candidate".

    If all are happy with it, no bugs are found so forth, I will publish that as version 1.0 in Marketplace.

    I will of course continue to improve the app after release too. But at some point one have to draw the line, and say; "Good enough for launch" :D

    I have even prepared the web page for it
    http://www.gydarindustries.com/AppPa...pleSearch.aspx

    UPDATE: Mail with new BETA-link has now been sent out...should be in your mailbox by now :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronny Gydar View Post
    Thanks for feedback!

    I have not found a way around that yet, but at least when I see this with Norwegian characters () Bing shows it correctly after a while, when the route plan is made.

    I guess I just will need to investigate that one more, or report a bug to Microsoft.

    Since NavigateTo does not work so well in some regions/countries, I have put more effort into the ShowOnMap-functionality, so now it is a better alternative to the NavigateTo-functionality.
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    Yeah, it is great! :)
    I am really like this new version!

    I will share your app webpage in my social networks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronny Gydar View Post
    So you want the "0"-key to search as "space"?

    No problem for me to do that. Was no big reason for it ending up on the 1-button...had to put it somewhere :)

    Will change it in next version so "0" searches as "space".
    Awesome!!! Again, the 0-key for space would be the oly thing I would prefer differently (as long as the rest of the users wouldn't HATE this change, bc I am not so sure how the rest of the world is used to seeing it...) All of the other alternate charcters are in places where I would expect them to be, and there are a lot of charchters/options, that I never even would have thought of being available (but when you cater to the masses, I guess you must anticipate all functionality) ;)
    So far, I am really enjoying the app, and the updates seem to be adding a lot great new features, and adjustments... This app is truly what I would like to use for my contact searches!! Great Job!! I look forward to the final release (and any other tightening up of the features, that you felt were needed based on user feedback...) It seems that you have had a lot of feedback from your beta group, and I for one, was very happy to be a part of it!! :)

    P.S. Trine's Hangman is a great game also!! ;)

    If you need any additional beta testing in the future, feel free to use my info to add me to the list!! ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siggystyle View Post
    Awesome!!! Again, the 0-key for space would be the oly thing I would prefer differently (as long as the rest of the users wouldn't HATE this change, bc I am not so sure how the rest of the world is used to seeing it...) All of the other alternate charcters are in places where I would expect them to be, and there are a lot of charchters/options, that I never even would have thought of being available (but when you cater to the masses, I guess you must anticipate all functionality) ;)
    So far, I am really enjoying the app, and the updates seem to be adding a lot great new features, and adjustments... This app is truly what I would like to use for my contact searches!! Great Job!! I look forward to the final release (and any other tightening up of the features, that you felt were needed based on user feedback...) It seems that you have had a lot of feedback from your beta group, and I for one, was very happy to be a part of it!! :)

    P.S. Trine's Hangman is a great game also!! ;)

    If you need any additional beta testing in the future, feel free to use my info to add me to the list!! ;)
    Siggystyle, I have a new BETA version almost finished...just HAD to fix'n'tune some more things :)

    The forward contact info is improved, design has been improved (got some feedback from Microsoft employes), background reindexing…and possible the space-on-0-button...not 100% sure yet about the last one. I like it since that 0 is usually used for space, but that button is also fairly special in the app, since it supports longpress for +.

    Not sure how I can label it, so users understand it is "long press for +" but it searchs as 0 and space and +.

    I will make final decision today, will try out some different label-designs and finish it up. And send in the new BETA in a day or two (need to do a little verification of the background re-indexing). You all can expect the New BETA in next week.

    [UPDATE] Have now changed keyboard-layout, so 0-button search as SPACE, and also changed "*" and MENU-buttons, so tap'n'hold is like it is on regular dialpads. Press'n'hold is also now more visible in keyboard, since press'n'hold character is shown in accent color.
    http://www.trineseries.com/upload/newKeyboardLayout.png
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    You all should now have gotten an email with version 0.8 now.

    And I have already gotten good feedback...I had forgotten to translate a Norwegian word.
    In the MENY-pivot-page, the heading left of the setup-section has the text "tilbakemelding"...which in the English version should have said "feedback". Will correct this in version 1.0.

    I think I will do a full walk-through of the English and Norwegian texts before completing version 1.0...is so easy to miss spelling mistakes so forth when you code-and-write-texts in one go :)
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    Crossing fingers for the app being approved by tomorrow. And we'll have it out by this weekend. If it is, I plan to have the free-day on Sunday. But we'l just have to wait and see if the app is approved the next day or two.

    Made a little enhancement to the startup of the app also, which could make it slow at times, or for people with some specific setups. Its fixed in 1.0 :)

    Will notify all BETA-testers by email the day it is free, and will also post it here. So keep an eye on this thread ;)

    [07.05.2012] Seems like the testers at Microsoft is slower than normal...going on the second week. Hopefully they will test it this week...else I will contact support.
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    I have now published the app to Marketplace (all countries), and will be visible in the next hours.

    You'll find it here (might take a few hours to be visible):
    http://windowsphone.com/s?appId=26b8...4-00237de2db9e

    NOTE!
    The app will be FREE tomorrow (Sunday 13.05.2012) only, so grab it on Sunday if you want a 0.99 app for free ;)

    BETA-testers; I will inform you about the 1-day-special by e-mail so you do not forget to get the full-version for free...this one-day-special is after all for you BETA-testers...but anyone can jump on this free-app-special ;)
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    Ronny,

    Is this the correct link? seems like it is going to something else in the windows marketplace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vemulasri View Post
    Ronny,
    Is this the correct link? seems like it is going to something else in the windows marketplace.
    Yeah, there is something wrong/weird here, not sure what yet.

    The link uses the correct applicationID, and on my phone I do get the app up in the Marketplace-app, but with no download-button, and a message that it is not available for my phone/region. And that is strange, since I just checked in AppHub now, it is published to absolutely every country available in Marketplace, and of course works on all WP7 Mango devices.

    I will wait till tonight before contacting Microsoft support about this, then it will be close to 2 days since I published the approved app....and from what I understand it can take up to 24 hours, so I guess I will give them a little slack before I start complaining to support.

    Will update here with info when I have some, and will of course then make the "one-day-special" some other date...so it is possible to actually get the app for free :)
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    The app should now be visible in Marketplace.

    The app will be FREE tomorrow (MONDAY 14. MAY).
    This is so all the BETA-testers can get it free, but anyone who sees it in Marketplace will can jump on that deal ;)

    I have already updated the price to 0, but it can take quite a few hours before it is visible.
    So if it states "0.99 USD", try again a little later.

    I will set the price back to 0.99 on Tuesday, so grab it while you can ;)

    I have also made re-edited the BETA-video so it shows of the new version (you are all thanked at the end of it)
    [YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XJg0jjJTj0[/YT]

    Direct-link to the published app in Marketplace:
    http://windowsphone.com/s?appId=9d8b...4-df3732a18457
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    Version 1.2 of People Search / Finn Folk was sent to Microsoft for approval two days ago, hopefully it will be visible in Marketplace next week.

    Main improvements are shown in this YouTube video: [YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Pb5QqbQ96k[/YT]

    In short: MUCH faster searching, share contact info with QR-codes and it now also search with Cyrillic characters.

    See here for details:
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    And version 1.3 is actually almost ready for submission too, so that will be sent to Microsoft as soon as Version 1.2 is approved by Microsoft.
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    Thanks Ronny, still loving the app.

    Just a quick question since I'm not a developer: Is there a way to send vCards, or contact files that are easily imported by other phones/systems with available windows phone dev resources? I'm sure some sort of contact export function will come in wp8, but this would be something I would find very useful. Right now as far as I understand, the only ways I've seen to send contact info is like it is in your app, where it send the information in a way where it still needs to be copy/pasted into somebody's address book.

    Thanks for your continued support of this app!
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    Is there a way to send vCards, or contact files that are easily imported by other phones/systems with available windows phone dev resources?
    From what I have seen, there is no easy way to send contact-info from a Windows Phone that can be "auto-imported" in the other end by a WP/Android/iOS/etc.

    One reason is because it is not possible to attach files to a email/sms with code in Windows Phone. And vCards are supposed to be sent as attachment as I understand it (I am by no means an expert on vCards though).

    I just did a basic test here now, where I sent a vCard in the body of an SMS...hoping that the receiving Windows Phone would "understand" the body as a vCard. But in the other end it looked like a lot of text, and just the actual numbers got link-indication...just as any number in any sms.

    I know there are WP apps that goes around this whole issue, and stores the vCard on their own web server, and then sends an url to that file by sms/email. Since urls will show as a clickable link on most modern phones, the recipients of such an SMS/email can click it, and the phone downloads the vCard file.

    Thats is an creative solution, and requires that the developer has a web site 24/7 for this server-stuff. ...and I do have lots of server capacity due to Trine's Hangman and some other games I am working on (due to multi-player "stuff")...so this should really not be a big problem for me to fix in a future update.

    I usually try to avoid anything that requires the user to save "personal info" on my servers, since that is never good...to be responsible for some of the users personal data. But I could make the vCard link expire after 1 day or something.

    ...but I know that I actually am a bit over-protective with privacy and security sometimes...but rather that than the oposite :)

    ...long rant as always...in short; vCard is possible, but not easy-peacy.

    I have put this on my "future wish list"
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    And then version 1.3 was finished :)
    [YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMrqE89O2-8[/YT]
    And before you wonder if that gigantic Lumia in the video is some kind of new Nokia Lumia 1000 tablet...or that I have incredibly small hands.

    ..this is my Nokia Lumia 800 next to the "phone" in the video

    And here's a behind the scenes shot, where you see that it is actually a 21.5" Dell touch monitor running Window Phone emulator with Nokia Lumia skin in Windows 8.


    But it looks kind'a cool in the video though? *:)



    WILL SEND IN VERSION 1.3 AS SOON AS VERSION 1.2 HAS BEEN APPROVED

    Since I can not send version 1.3 in until Microsoft has tested version 1.2, I might add one or two things more before I send it to Microsoft.

    You will always find the latest info about what's coming here; Versionhistory

    Hopefully it does not take too long before Microsoft test version 1.2 that I sent in last week :)
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