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    Hi all,
    I begin with windows phone 8 and i wonder to choose which programming language C# or C++, i program both App and Game.
    Please help me for the best choice and if can, please give me the reason why choose this language.
    Thank you
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    C# is simpler and faster to develop in -- if you're only developing for WP, go with C#. If you need to reuse existing C++ libraries or are planning to port your apps to other platforms, go with C++.
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    As an old school programmer I can't help but recommend C++. It is natively supported in many SDK's and eases porting. It is also a very developed language that is much more powerful. There is also an unlimited wealth of information for c++. It is however as said a little more difficult to learn.

    I suggest that whatever you choose, the first thing you do is learn the SDK interface and then open up several sample applications and copy/paste the code to a project of your own that is in itself unique to learn stuff quick. Then after you get familiar with what you've been doing say to a point where you can create a simple app without copying all the time you should open up some books.

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    Cheers for the thread. I'm new to developing period! Never written an app. Closes thing to programming I've done is writing .bat files lmao. Want to get into developing apps, especially for the WP. I've already downloaded the SDK and have no idea where to start with that.
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    I'm in the same boat too. Dabbled in a tiny bit of programming in the past, found I was good at it but never followed up and learned more. Big regret of mine. Currently trying to wrap my head around OOP - and I think I'm going to stick with C# for now to avoid dealing with memory management etc. I definitely plan on transitioning to cpp in the future.

    A good place to start would be to just go to dev.windowsphone.com and take a look at the samples. Download a few, load 'em up, build 'em, then pick something you wanna change and go ahead and change it. Then rebuild and see what happens! You need to be patient - you're not going to make the next Metrotube overnight - but you'll be surprised how quickly you'll make progress.
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    Well I just finished a 3 hour course from Tuts+ called "So You Want to be a Developer" it's based on JavaScript and just ran through the basics i.e. what are Functions, What is an Array, What are Loops, etc.. Did more research and there is a similar course from Code Academy.

    Anyhoo, now after taking that course, and when looking at sample code, even though I know it wasn't developed in JavaScrips, the code, at least looks a lot less foreign. I can now identify certain data types and such used.

    I've just scratched the tip of the iceberg, and have a very long way to go. Already penned a developer road map for myself. Instead of continuing with JavaScript, I'll just delve right into C# for ease than anything else. If I get really good, I'll venture into C++. But I still can't skimp out on things like UI design, Q&A, etc.. etc.. all of that I know will come together later.

    Ok we'll see how this goes. Expect LOTS of questions from yours truly.
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    Contributor M, I'm in the same boat as you. I'm already planning my app but I need to make sure I can get the proper API pieces to use in the app. As everything he has done is custom coded, I'm curious how easy it would be for him to create a set of API files that I could then integrate into the app?

    "Fortune cookie said: 'Outlook not so good'. I said: 'Sure, but Microsoft ships it anyway'."
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    In regards to C# to C++..use whatever is less foreign to you. Yes, C++ is more powerful in some ways, but as a beginner you won't even need to dive into that sort of power.

    Note you should use C# if you want to make something fast. C++ takes a lot longer to make stuff, at least with my usage :P
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    Hi, following on from the OP's question (also a beginner in wp7 & wp8 here), i would like to know if it is possible for an app to change wp8 setting? i have looked through all of the code samples and have not seen anything at all tha indicates it is possible. for example, can an app switch wifi on/off or change theme colour ?? good advice about c# vs cpp btw, totally agree with sticking to c# if you want to keep it simple. cp and cpp are much more complex.
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    I'm in the beginning stages of learning C# and Windows Phone development (does it ever end? lol).

    I HIGHLY recommend watching/following some tutorial videos to help you get started. My favorite so far is "Windows Phone 7 Development for Absolute Beginners" by Bob Tabor.

    Yes, I realize it's for WP7 and not WP8, but this doesn't really matter if you are just beginning. It will give you a great starting or jumping off point for learning C# and XAML specific to Windows Phone development.
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    Since you are beginning with windows phone I would recommend you to go with C#. I took a Jump Start course on phone app development from Microsoft Virtual Academy. The training module helped me leverage my C# skills to build cool apps for the Windows 8 platform. Hope you enjoy the course!
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    I'd like to know what's the price of a developer's account?? I'm actually a student, but year dropout right now.. So I think o can't get a student developer free account. Any guidance???
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    I don't about a student dev account, but if it exist you wouldn't be able to get it coz you're not a registered student and if you were then you'd need to enquire with your lectures to proceed.
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    Still what's the price for the non student standard developer's account??
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    Ok, maybe you can still get a free student account if you have a .edu email address
    Have a read here>> Student account

    http://blogs.msdn.com/b/alicerp/arch...r-account.aspx

    And here are prices of dev accounts if you can't get a free account.
    Dev accounts
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr.../jj863494.aspx
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    Thank you very very much for the info.. Seems ill have to pay for the account which I'll do. I have some very good ideas but I've just started learning programming, but my gf has a degree and has very vast knowledge. Together my ideas n creativity n her knowledge n common sense, you guys will see very good apps in the coming year.. ;-)
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    ;) maybe get the SDK first and work on an app before getting the account.
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    Sdk app for windows 8.1 32bit ??? Where is download ???
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    Here[link], also check there windows phone 8.1 forum for the leaked ISO for blue SDK.

    http://dev.windowsphone.com/en-us/downloadsdk
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    Link for sdk 32bit or 64bit
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    Sorry buddy the SDK requires 64bit coz it has a hyper-v based emulator which only works on 64bit....

    Again try the leaked ISO for blue, you'll find the link in wp8.1 forum.
    Here's the link>> WP 8.1 SDK ISO Leak
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    Quote Originally Posted by contributorM View Post
    Cheers for the thread. I'm new to developing period! Never written an app. Closes thing to programming I've done is writing .bat files lmao. Want to get into developing apps, especially for the WP. I've already downloaded the SDK and have no idea where to start with that.
    This thread might help:

    A blog about WP8 development as a beginner
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    Follow through with the c# videos and wp8 on channel9 with Bob Tabor

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