- 02-25-2013, 08:16 PM #51
- 02-25-2013, 08:19 PM #52
- 02-25-2013, 08:39 PM #53
I think my past posts have shown I know at least a little bit about what is going on. Make of it what you will.
- 02-25-2013, 09:33 PM #55
14nm Airmont Atom & Intel Skylake microarchitecture (6th generation) is set for 2015!
I only wish you were right but unfortunately we wait!ATIV S is LIFE
- 02-25-2013, 10:11 PM #56
This has been repeated all over the web ever since, including on Wikipedia:
"In May 2011, Intel has announced an accelerated roadmap for Atom SoC, with 22 nm Silvermont core scheduled in 2013, and 14 nm Airmont core scheduled in 2014"
I don't work at Intel, but to the best of my knowledge, that roadmap hasn't changed.
- 02-25-2013, 10:29 PM #57
- 02-25-2013, 11:14 PM #58
this blog from a Microsoft employee. Quote:
"developing an app for Windows on ARM is the same as developing a Metro style app for x86/64 PCs; that is, the same Metro style app will run on either hardware."
Of course I'm not talking about traditional desktop software like Photoshop. I'm talking only about Windows Store apps. Finally, both W8 and W8RT run Windows Store apps in a VM. It's called the .NET runtime environment.
- 02-26-2013, 12:19 AM #59
WP8 won't use WP9 especially if it's ARMv8 or Intel 64 hardware used for next generation platform. Just the way it goes!
Can you play PS3 games on PS2? Same thing here.
The best you could hope for is WP9 uses ARMv8 hardware technology that can still use all old ARMv7 WP8 software! I personally don't care about backwards compatibility because I want new apps with my new Phone. 😁ATIV S is LIFE
- 02-26-2013, 03:05 AM #61
In the future there be Windows RT64 for ARMv8 64-bit technology.ATIV S is LIFE
- 02-26-2013, 11:42 AM #64
If this were true there would be no need for Windows RT (R-RISC T-Technology)
I'm not saying that software can't work together but the programming language is very different from RISC to CISC in how it's processed.
To say ARMv7 is the same as x86 architecture is wrong.
Now can use tricks to emulate apps and software under Visual Studio. Yes your right about this part!ATIV S is LIFE
02-26-2013, 11:46 AM #65
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i am hoping that WP8 will not be ditched like they did with WP7.5, there was good justification from MS about why they had to ditch WP 7.5. WP8 customers will be ditched again IF MS decided to use X86 processor, it might be a while before Intel can compete with ARM on power consumption, if MS decides to change architecture again in couple of years then WP platform is screwed, we can forget about Windows Mobile Platform. Even if X86 is better than ARM it is major inconvenience for booth customers & app developers.
- 02-26-2013, 12:19 PM #66
I own a WP8 ATIV S smartphone based on ARMv7 32-bit technology and knowing the future is ARMv8 64-bit technology, the future of Windows Phone is clear!
Good thing the move from ARMv7 to ARMv8 starting in 2015. Ill almost get 3 years out of my ATIV S?
The sad thing I here is there might be a Windows 8 Phone or call it Windows Phone 8 Pro? That right x86 Windows Phone!
Now I don't know if it is x86 or x86-64 hardware depends on the Atom they use.
The upcoming Intel Atom "Bay Trail" is a ARMv7 killer SoC Intel Processor with less power than ARMv7 Snapdragon 800 series. We will see? 😎ATIV S is LIFE
- 02-26-2013, 12:47 PM #67
The weird part about the upcoming "Blue" is I believe it's a SP1 (Service Pack 1) for unifying Windows 8, Windows RT, WP8. But then found some saying it's a new NT 6.3 kernel? That would mean all new Windows altogether?
Would Microsoft kill off Windows 8 in the first year?ATIV S is LIFE
- 02-26-2013, 12:47 PM #68
It's not emulated. It's native (managed) code. You write the application once and it compiles to run on all architectures. That's why 99% of all the WinRT applications run on ARM, x86, and x64. No, you can't run desktop software on Windows RT, but in many cases, that's more of a matter of it being locked down. Pure .NET applications will run perfectly on a jailbroken device.
- 02-26-2013, 03:00 PM #70
I need to ask Steve when he comes around for some fish and chips. Will it be okay if I let you know close to time?Patient Windows Phone User since October 2010 till cores and apps do us apart.
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- 02-26-2013, 03:10 PM #71
So much hate for Windows 8 I don't get it? I just hope BLUE update is only a unified service pack 1 for Windows 8, Windows RT, WP8 only we hope to fix our eco platform we already have and not start a new one!ATIV S is LIFE
- 02-26-2013, 05:02 PM #73
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