Qi is dead

xandros9

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plenty do, PMA targets venues, Qi targets manufacturers. You could argue PMA is dead since its built into approximately zero phones.

I'm wondering why it feels so many people are so quick to jump to a "he's dead Jim!" verdict. No it's not exactly dead. Palm's Touchstone is probably dead, not this standard. Not until it isn't used anymore or so by anything I guess.
 

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There's also the Ti chip that supports Qi and PMA, making this ridiculous format war obsolete, maybe before PMA ever even sees noticeable market share.
 

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Vastly overstating the influence of Starbucks. PMA is so irrelevant that their one big carrier supporter ATT is back behind the Qi standard with the Lumia 830. If an actual phone vendor seemingly doesn't see the value I'm not sure how a coffee house will change things. Dead indeed, more like someone just paid Starbucks a wad of cash for this.
 

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Off-topic, but... My brother calls Starbuck's "coffee for people who don't like coffee".

more like hot chocolate than coffee!
On topic, PMA thought adding it to starbucks would help push adoption, but most cellular devices using wireless charging are using Qi, so it seems like a waste of time and money for starbucks.
 

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Qi might be dead once the iPhone offers PMA built in but until then it's still alive. That said hopefully Dunkin Donuts responds by going with Qi. Lol.
 

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Qi might be dead once the iPhone offers PMA built in but until then it's still alive. That said hopefully Dunkin Donuts responds by going with Qi. Lol.

Knowing Apple, they're probably hard at work on a third standard for the sake of being different and appearing to do it better.
 

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Sorry I wanted to add a question mark to the title but you can't edit titles :/. Also I don't think I'm overestimating Starbuck's power, they are a huge factor in driving adoption of technologies. Public wifi in the US was largely driven by Starbucks.
 

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They announced this months ago, and the first thing I thought was "oh man, they have some inside info that the next iPhone (the iP6 hadn't been announced at that time) will have PMA changing." I was surprised to see that it didn't end up having PMA charging and there are still very few phones that do.
 

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But why bother with wireless charging at all?

Guiste said the decision came after years of watching customers get on their hands and knees searching for outlets.

"This is just a much more elegant solution," he said.

Elegant perhaps but a more practical solution would be incorporating electrical outlets near surfaces so people could charge their laptops and tablets, not just their PMA enabled phones.
 

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Elegant perhaps but a more practical solution would be incorporating electrical outlets near surfaces so people could charge their laptops and tablets, not just their PMA enabled phones.

or maybe actually using a standard actually used by phone manufacturers too

I fear Starbucks has been bamboozled here.
 

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The only reason PMA exists is because of Qualcomm, but as the benefits don't out weigh the costs it hasn't picked up yet, Personally although I have Qi charging I'm hard pressed to use them when my Nokia charger can get me 50% in less than 90 mins.
 

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