- 08-27-2013, 10:45 AM #1
I am really getting tired of the Tech writers who think of themselves as the gods of Technology but can't even grasp the basic difference between the Windows RT and Windows Pro Versions. For all the Idiots in crapchutes like Engadget, CNET, Verge, ZDNet.. Etc please let a puny human explain the difference to you.
Windows 8 RT- It is a tablet version of the Windows 8 OS like your beloved IOS for Tablets or Android. It doesn’t need to be backward compatible or install desktop software as it is a TABLET OS.
Windows 8 Pro - It is a laptop OS, the version after Windows 7 (Hence the 8). So it will be able to do everything you throw at it. The trade off here will be lower battery life because of the specs.
I don’t know when they will get through their lizard brains that they have to compare Apples with other Apples not Oranges.
- 08-27-2013, 11:03 AM #2
The Main source of my frustration was, when the Surfa ce RT/Windows RT was released the blogs constantly complained about the inability to install desktop Applications, Flash, Scaled down Office.. Etc. They were comparing the RT Tablets to the Laptops instead of IPad or Android tablets. And when the Surface Pro was released they were complaining about battery life comparing it to the Tablet, even though it has the same battery life of an average laptop.
Even now they are trying to preempt the Nokia 'Sirius' and Surface 2 Tablets with the same invalid criticisms.
- 08-27-2013, 12:27 PM #5
The problem is they wont go away if you stop reading them, not saying that they should. They influence the decisions of a lot of people, I expect them to be fair and have a little bit of COMMONSENSE.
If you read the sites like CNET , Verge.. Etc.. You will be under the impression that the whole world except you and a few others is using IPhones , IPads and Macbooks but the reality is much different.
I like the approach of Mobile Nations, they provide a stage for the fans of each platform.
- 09-05-2013, 09:05 AM #8
- 09-05-2013, 09:13 AM #9
These days even the average guy/girl has internet and guess what they see when they Google about a device , the Tech blogs and their articles.
We underestimate the reach of these things and they do affect buying decisions.
- 09-05-2013, 09:39 AM #10
No, I don't think we do. Most people just plunge in with their first phone and just get something, maybe influenced by friends (as stated above). If the average person does read some kind of tech rant, they don't understand half the babble anyway so it doesn't make too much sense to them.
- 10-21-2013, 11:56 PM #13
Microsft should've called Windows RT, "Surface OS" and called the Surface Pro something entirely different. The one thing that Microsoft did right was when they called everything Zune. Zune software for syncing and managing, Zune was the device, Zune marketplace for media.
10-25-2013, 06:33 PM #15
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You know you can just not read the blogs. I have developed the "click bait" sense. If the headline is positive for Apple don't click, if it's negative for Microsoft don't click, defending Google/Android don't click. Very simple now you aren't feeding the leviathan bloggers.
- 10-25-2013, 06:38 PM #16
I understand why, but at the same time I don't... Where are the ethics and standards for these journalist. It used to be just the facts and you form your opinion, not it is biased and unprofessional...
- 10-26-2013, 07:04 AM #18awwwww how sweeeeeet. thanks !
10-26-2013, 09:18 AM #19
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ournalist and then attempt to apply to "The Verge", "Engadget", etc. Their bloggers don't make it past the "objective" definition.
Last edited by RonV42; 10-26-2013 at 01:56 PM.
- 10-26-2013, 11:24 AM #20
People can complain about the locked-down ecosystem of iOS, and their complaints would be valid, but the iPad excels in providing as trouble-free mobile experience as possible. Android tablets offer more flexibility but along with it comes some of that maintenance at the cost of trouble-free.
The Surface RT is the first tablet that had the potential to truly bridge the gap between mobile tablet and netbook. Microsoft's decisions on the hardware design were just about perfect IMO. Apple apologists claim that to add support for a microSD slot, HDMI, and full USB would force the iPad to be thicker... and yet the RT contains all of those things and is just as thin as my iPad 4. Having that magnetic connector (where the keyboard snaps on) was a brilliant decision and allowed Microsoft to develop some truly innovative accessories for it. The TypeCover2 is by far THE best keyboard solution for any tablet.
Driver support, printer support, hardware connectivity, etc. allow me to do things on the RT that are not possible with other tablets but common on netbooks.
As Win RT matures, I believe that Microsoft will improve on how it hides the maintenance from the end user. Clean up the bugs (battery drain bug, please!) Beef up the apps, and keep supporting the RT and it would have a great future.
The only fly in the ointment from my perspective is the capacitive touch sensors on the screen. I think Microsoft may have taken a shortcut/cut-a-corner to save money that will detract from the overall tablet experience.
- 10-26-2013, 12:50 PM #21
(2) pretty much
(3) i'm not sure what you're referring to as maintenance here, either.
(4) bluetooth keyboards and mice do a great job, from my experiences. they don't require an OEM store to be close by to replace a broken keyboard/mouse, which is a big plus, to me.
(5) hmm, like printing ? what specifically are you finding available as far as drivers go for RT that desktop windows, or android / ipad fondle slabs don't have ?
(6) repeat of #1 and #3 again. what maintenance are you doing ?awwwww how sweeeeeet. thanks !
- 10-26-2013, 02:37 PM #22
Antivirus runs continuously, not to the point of slowing a system down, but it is triggered by certain low-level system calls. The less secure a system is, the more antivirus software needs to be monitoring the system. iOS is far more secure than desktop Windows and as such either has little to no overhead in scanning for viruses. The Windows registry has essentially remained unchanged since the Windows 3.x days. Corrupted and orphaned entries can have a significant impact on the system performance and stability. The registry needs to be regularly maintained/cleaned. Application installers/uninstallers often leave partial remnants that can interfere with the operation of a system. That stuff needs to be cleaned up. Even worse, some apps may cause a system service to be "Started" but when that app is uninstalled, it leaves that system service as marked as "Start" even if it was the only app that used that service.
You are not alone in your lack of understanding the type of maintenance that Windows requires. I regularly clean systems for friends and family who complain that their system is not as fast as it was when they first bought it. When I have performed these maintenance tasks, the system stability and performance are restored to nearly the level it was when the system was new. The only reason why the people I help buy a new system is because of a hardware failure or need for a new feature/form-factor arises.
4) bluetooth keyboards and mice are ok if one doesn't mind lugging separate components with them wherever they go. The TypeCover2 is attached to the tablet and is so thin, so portable, and dual purpose (protecting the screen as well), that it makes it superior to every bluetooth keyboard out there. I can understand why you would disagree if your tablet never leaves your house.
5) My Surface RT has been able to print correctly to every network printer it has found. the Ipad cannot (none of the printers are AirPrint capable) neither can the Android tabs I own.
- 10-26-2013, 02:51 PM #23
For printing, I use Google cloud print, worked with everything that had a browser.
Good explanation... I had forgotten about all the defragging and virus stuff after switching to Linux, then Mac is years ago. The registry, good lord I remember that.
Liked and thankedawwwww how sweeeeeet. thanks !
- 10-30-2013, 12:33 AM #24
I actually agree with the OP...all this negative PR of "NO APPS NO APPS" is really not helping...of course we have a choice to ignore it..but still it does make an impact in a long run..
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