1. James Falconer's Avatar
    Oh boy - anyone read this article from Al earlier today? What do you think is up here from Microsoft? Gauging interest, perhaps testing things out for a move towards Android or?...

    Sound off!
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    04-04-2017 12:22 PM
  2. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I'm not really interested in Samsung devices. Microsoft apps are already available for any Android devices in Google Play Store. TBH, the only Microsoft app I really use is OneDrive.

    So no, I'm not buying.
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    04-04-2017 12:52 PM
  3. tgp's Avatar
    IMO, the main draw to the S8 for a Windows Mobile fan is that this is the device Microsoft is endorsing. You will be able to buy this phone in Microsoft's stores. Otherwise, as Laura said, the apps are available for any Android.

    I believe that Microsoft's reasoning behind offering an Android is to offer their customers a mobile solution. With Lumia gone, they do not have a phone. This way they can at least offer their customers something. With DeX and Microsoft's apps, it somewhat resembles what Microsoft tried to create on their own.
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    04-04-2017 01:14 PM
  4. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Only available in store and not online. No way that has mass appeal...

    I'm 2 hours and 42 minutes from the nearest store (time wise - no traffic). 183.4 miles each way.

    Another store is physically closer at 170.2 miles, but actually takes more time to get to due to routing via more roadways and less Interstate Highway.

    That's a lot of miles to get a phone that:
    1. I'm not interested in
    2. Has no hardware or software additions or benefits
    3. Is carrier locked to AT&T and has AT&T firmware bloating it, especially in light of the fact that I am not an AT&T prime customer (I'm on Cricket)
    4. Provides no price discount, when other retailers ate very likely to offer it for less online in a month or less
    5. Has some greasy fingered dude (or dudette) kludging it up as they attempt to install Apps from Google Play which I am more than capable of doing and I would not want them fingering the Play Store with a live account logged into my details in any event

    It's a non-starter.
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    04-04-2017 01:18 PM
  5. RumoredNow's Avatar
    I believe that Microsoft's reasoning behind offering an Android is to offer their customers a mobile solution. With Lumia gone, they do not have a phone.
    They should just pledge for 4,000 Cerulean Moments instead. Right? @mistagreg

    I'd drive 3 hours to support that. I don't think my bit-o-skim means much to Uncle Sammy in the long run anyway...


    #ThisIsOurMoment #CeruleanKnights
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    04-04-2017 01:22 PM
  6. libra89's Avatar
    IMO, the main draw to the S8 for a Windows Mobile fan is that this is the device Microsoft is endorsing. You will be able to buy this phone in Microsoft's stores. Otherwise, as Laura said, the apps are available for any Android.

    I believe that Microsoft's reasoning behind offering an Android is to offer their customers a mobile solution. With Lumia gone, they do not have a phone. This way they can at least offer their customers something. With DeX and Microsoft's apps, it somewhat resembles what Microsoft tried to create on their own.
    Agreed.

    Aside from this, I doubt that they are seriously considering Android.
    04-04-2017 01:34 PM
  7. tgp's Avatar
    They should just pledge for 4,000 Cerulean Moments instead. Right?
    They could. But why does the future of this device, and possibly a mobile platform, rest a kickstarter, funded by a few fans? That's essentially what I'm reading. $1.1 million is less than pocket change to Microsoft. They could do this if they wanted. They don't even need WhartonBrooks. They have (or had) their own phone hardware manufacturing division. It was shut down.

    I don't think there's value in artificially funding this, since it wouldn't have any reflection on consumer interest. Didn't NuAns do the kickstarter primarily to gauge interest? I don't think they needed the money.
    04-04-2017 02:05 PM
  8. RumoredNow's Avatar
    They could. But why does the future of this device, and possibly a mobile platform, rest a kickstarter, funded by a few fans? That's essentially what I'm reading. $1.1 million is less than pocket change to Microsoft. They could do this if they wanted. They don't even need WhartonBrooks. They have (or had) their own phone hardware manufacturing division. It was shut down.

    I don't think there's value in artificially funding this, since it wouldn't have any reflection on consumer interest. Didn't NuAns do the kickstarter primarily to gauge interest? I don't think they needed the money.
    Wharton Brooks had a major funder back out just when they were set to order the first production run. The crowd funding is a stop gap to fill that void with needed capitol.

    NuAns is another small maker. It's my impression they did need the capitol to fund certification and regulatory fees in the markets they wanted to target.
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    04-04-2017 02:28 PM
  9. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Wharton Brooks had a major funder back out just when they were set to order the first production run. The crowd funding is a stop gap to fill that void with needed capitol.

    NuAns is another small maker. It's my impression they did need the capitol to fund certification and regulatory fees in the markets they wanted to target.
    Unfortunately I don't see any better success for WhartonBrooks than the was for NuAns.
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    04-04-2017 03:10 PM
  10. tgp's Avatar
    NuAns is another small maker. It's my impression they did need the capitol to fund certification and regulatory fees in the markets they wanted to target.
    Yes they probably did. They were trying to get it in the US. But I wonder why they went ahead with Android without a crowdfunding campaign.

    I can't verify this, but I'm pretty sure the CEO or president or someone related to NuAns said it was at least partially to measure consumer interest. Crowdfunding campaign are sometimes used for that reason. That's why I think Microsoft or someone else doesn't pay out.

    Look at it this way: you are an investor with $1 million. If consumers won't pony up, do you pay for them, trusting they'll buy it from you later? It's easy for us to put in $300, and it wouldn't hurt most of us financially even if we ended up losing it. But $1 million? That's a different story!

    Unfortunately I don't see any better success for WhartonBrooks than the was for NuAns.
    So far they're on pace for about the same result, right around 20% of their goal. But fortunately we're only a few days in, so there's plenty of time.
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    04-04-2017 03:13 PM
  11. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Unfortunately I don't see any better success for WhartonBrooks than the was for NuAns.
    And every time that sentiment is posted, it helps ensure before hand that it becomes correct.
    @Laura Knotek don't you remember the Buy an App Day fiasco? I thought you understood the battle of hope vs apathy...

    No one is being asked to fax glitter here. This is something that CAN be accomplished if enough users pull together.




    #ThisIsOurMoment
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    04-04-2017 06:53 PM
  12. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    And every time that sentiment is posted, it helps ensure before hand that it becomes correct.
    @Laura Knotek don't you remember the Buy an App Day fiasco? I thought you understood the battle of hope vs apathy...

    No one is being asked to fax glitter here. This is something that CAN be accomplished if enough users pull together.




    #ThisIsOurMoment
    To answer the question, yes I did indeed buy apps.

    Regarding fundraising efforts, I only support legitimate charities in fundraising. I do not consider business endeavours to be something to contribute money towards unless I have stake in the company as a shareholder and the company's financial success also contributes to my personal financial success.
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    04-05-2017 01:43 PM
  13. LuxuryTouringZone's Avatar
    "Samsung Galaxy S8 Microsoft Edition"

    It's a pointless gimmick IMO. I'm sure most Android users know that they can simply download Microsoft apps from Google Play. If they wanted to make it interesting, they should have loaded it with Windows 10 Mobile. That way, people will be able to buy the S8 in two distinct flavours.
    04-05-2017 06:16 PM
  14. tgp's Avatar
    It's a pointless gimmick IMO. I'm sure most Android users know that they can simply download Microsoft apps from Google Play.
    I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft's reasoning behind carrying the S8 is to be able to offer their customers a mobile solution. Otherwise, they have nothing.
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    04-05-2017 08:03 PM
  15. Nate W's Avatar
    It is making more sense now that the Harman Kardon Cortana device is on its way.
    04-09-2017 04:42 PM
  16. James Falconer's Avatar
    @Nate W - wait - what? Harmon Kardon? I must have missed something...
    04-10-2017 08:57 AM
  17. Nate W's Avatar
    @Nate W - wait - what? Harmon Kardon? I must have missed something...
    Samsung bought Harman Kardon back in March. They own the bulk of the shares or something of that nature...I am not familiar enough to know in detail how they own them, but there more details over the web...Samsung Electronics Completes Acquisition of HARMAN

    However, I do not think the Cortana Speaker if it is branded with Harman is built with Samsung in the picture, but who knows. Or it could mean v.2 would be...
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    04-10-2017 09:55 AM
  18. James Falconer's Avatar
    Interesting... not sure how I missed that!
    04-10-2017 10:05 AM
  19. Nate W's Avatar
    I am on GSMarena a lot (not as much as WC!). Of course being geared more toward Android devices, that is where I followed it first.
    04-10-2017 10:17 AM

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