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  1. Lych's Avatar
    Which operating system is better when using Microsoft services extensively? I have no point of reference as I have never owned an Apple or Android product (and not that anxious too either) but I'm leaning towards one of them for my next phone. I'm just tired of feeling like I'm making due with what windows10 mobile offers me. I've only been a windows phone user for about a year now (Palm and BlackBerry before that) but have been relatively "all in" on Microsoft services for quite sometime.
    So, when you're "all in" with things like OneDrive, Office365 subscription, Outlook2016 desktop client, and even an Outlook.com email account.... which OS (ios or android) works best?
    Can't speak for iOS as I haven't owned an iPhone after the 6+ came out and I don't have it any more, so no idea what has changed.

    Android:
    Outlook is a bundled app, meaning you get contacts, calendar and email in one app. It feels crammed but otherwise useful (if they fixed that godawful bug where some characters turned people's names into gibberish). On Windows we had separate apps for these and I preferred that.
    Skype is pretty much on par, I like the looks better on WP, but that's about it.
    OneNote: liked it better on WP, but functionality-wise they're on par.
    To-Do: pretty consistent between all platforms so far.
    Office apps: never used them on Android, wouldn't know.
    OneDrive: never used it on Android.

    Nothing else really comes to mind as of right now, but feel free to ask.
    As for how they perform: Under WP the lower-end and older devices might run them a bit more slowly, but haven't seen anything that's really frustrating (It might be there, but I definitely don't have any experience beyond high-end lumias and the 640).

    On Android you might get buttery smooth performance or a horrible lagfest based on the device you're using. On a Galaxy S7 it's smooth sailing. On lower end devices with less RAM and weak processors you might as well just carry a laptop with yourself instead and tether your data.
    04-20-2017 04:47 PM
  2. iJohnnyCash's Avatar
    Xandros9 nailed it but I also wanted to throw in my 2 cents based on my personal experience with Outlook on Android and iOS.

    Outlook contacts and calendar feed very well into the built-in apps on iOS. On iOS, it makes your Outlook account an Exchange account so if you make a new contact in the Contacts app, it will be automatically synced back to Outlook. Calendar events shown in Outlook show almost instantly on the built in app. I haven't tried creating an event using the calendar and then seeing if it syncs back but it should be just fine. If your contacts have birthdays in Outlook, it will populate in the calendar as well. Please note that if you click an email link from a text or a web page, it will open the Mail app and not Outlook automatically.

    As for Android, you can set Outlook to be your default mail client for most phones. However, it only sync contacts and not your calendar. Either way, you have to add your accounts as Exchange accounts in order for your contacts to populate into the Contacts app, and the same goes with your calendar. Double calendar events are a thing sometimes. In my experience, it hasn't always shown birthdays of my contacts in Outlook on the calendar too.

    Each has their pros and cons really. I use both and generally I prefer iOS for Outlook.
    That isn't exactly the truth. I don't doubt that iOS have a out-of-the-box and nice integration with Microsoft Exchange and Outlook.

    I doubt about that someone can't have the same features in Android also. First of all Outlook app have the big disadvantage that it support only one-way sync.

    Personally I combine stock email client (not the Gmail app) and the android's account service with Outlook app. On the one hand I have a full-featured Outlook environment. On the other hand I have deep integration between Microsoft Exchange and the android, with calendar support of course.

    The only hard part was that I should find the manual setting, but a 5min of googling was enough.
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    04-20-2017 05:11 PM
  3. libra89's Avatar
    That isn't exactly the truth. I don't doubt that iOS have a out-of-the-box and nice integration with Microsoft Exchange and Outlook.

    I doubt about that someone can't have the same features in Android also. First of all Outlook app have the big disadvantage that it support only one-way sync.

    Personally I combine stock email client (not the Gmail app) and the android's account service with Outlook app. On the one hand I have a full-featured Outlook environment. On the other hand I have deep integration between Microsoft Exchange and the android, with calendar support of course.

    The only hard part was that I should find the manual setting, but a 5min of googling was enough.
    Thanks for sharing your experience. In my experience with many Android phones, it can also be phone dependent as well too. It sounds like you have a system that works great.

    I didn't have one before Nine.
    04-20-2017 05:43 PM
  4. gernerttl's Avatar
    Which operating system is better when using Microsoft services extensively? I have no point of reference as I have never owned an Apple or Android product (and not that anxious too either) but I'm leaning towards one of them for my next phone. I'm just tired of feeling like I'm making due with what windows10 mobile offers me. I've only been a windows phone user for about a year now (Palm and BlackBerry before that) but have been relatively "all in" on Microsoft services for quite sometime.
    So, when you're "all in" with things like OneDrive, Office365 subscription, Outlook2016 desktop client, and even an Outlook.com email account.... which OS (ios or android) works best?
    I have owned devices from all three. I've owned a Lumia Icon, an iPhone 6s Plus, and now a Galaxy S8+. I also have a Galaxy Tab S2. Here is my two cents. I have a Office 365 subscription with 1TB of OneDrive space. I use MS Office at work everyday, and use OneDrive everyday.

    Because of the different technologies, it's kinda hard to make a true apples to apples comparison. My old iPhone 6s Plus had "3D Touch." This allowed app makers to add some nifty functionality. Of all of the things about my iPhone, it is 3D Touch that I miss the most. It is rather useful. Microsoft added 3D Touch support to all of its iOS versions of its apps.

    Overall, I prefer the Android versions of the Microsoft apps. The one exception is Office Lens. On the Windows Mobile and iOS versions, you have the option of scanning in multiple page documents. However, the Android version does not. To be fair, the multi-page option didn't arrive to iOS until recently. The Windows Mobile version had it baked in from the start. Unfortunately, I don't have my Icon or iPhone anymore. If I did, I could show you some side by side comparisons.
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    04-20-2017 06:27 PM
  5. Iain_S's Avatar
    Definitely Android.

    The reason is simple: iOS is a walled garden. Apple has the system pretty locked up and you won't be able to actually replace Apple's services with Microsoft's.
    Android on the other hand allows you to replace everything with Microsoft's services. And even Cortana can be placed in the place of Google Now.

    Now, mind you that just because Microsoft's services are better on Android it does NOT mean Microsoft's APPS are. For example the Outlook application is an unmitigated disaster.

    The thing about Android is: you have tons of apps on the Play Store which will tie in with Microsoft's services and replace Google's offerings.

    The only Microsoft service which is better on Windows Phone is Groove. But, if we're being honest, Groove s*cks when compared to Google's Play Music or iTunes. So, whatever the mobile system you go to, I'd honestly recommend you to ditch Groove anyway.
    MS services and apps are far superior on Apple devices than they are on Android, email and calender, onedrive, groove, office all look and work better on ios.
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    04-20-2017 06:47 PM
  6. vEEP pEEP's Avatar
    If I went Android - I would use Google services

    If I went to Apple - I would use Apple services
    04-20-2017 09:50 PM
  7. Legellan's Avatar
    Just use the Microsoft Outlook mail and calendar app. It's great. It also allows you to hook in OneDrive, Google drive and Dropbox. If you've got a gmail account you can pull that in too. No need to use the Gmail or google calendar apps at all.
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    04-20-2017 10:00 PM
  8. Drael646464's Avatar
    MS services and apps are far superior on Apple devices than they are on Android, email and calender, onedrive, groove, office all look and work better on ios.
    Well I've heard people say google services and apps work better on ios, so that doesn't surprise me :P
    04-20-2017 10:04 PM
  9. Jason Angle's Avatar
    Which operating system is better when using Microsoft services extensively? I have no point of reference as I have never owned an Apple or Android product (and not that anxious too either) but I'm leaning towards one of them for my next phone. I'm just tired of feeling like I'm making due with what windows10 mobile offers me. I've only been a windows phone user for about a year now (Palm and BlackBerry before that) but have been relatively "all in" on Microsoft services for quite sometime.
    So, when you're "all in" with things like OneDrive, Office365 subscription, Outlook2016 desktop client, and even an Outlook.com email account.... which OS (ios or android) works best?
    The problem with this question is the response will always be conjecture based on the bias/preference each of us have. With that being said, I came to Windows mobile from a longtime Blackberry history (think pagers...), but I also have extensive history with Android but in the Open Handset form. Arrow Launcher, Office, Onedrive, Onenote, Mail and Calendar, Groove, and the others all look similar to what you currently have on both platforms.

    iPhone will be the more secure option, with the Unix underpinnings that will leave most security concerns on Apple's proprietary hardware and software concerns. Exchange access does work out of the box, so does the security controls from Active Directory, but most require your company IT to enable them.

    If you get a Blackberry Android security is still good, but you're going to be locked down on what you can do. Still all the MSFT apps are there but if you are a keyboard fan and willing to allow Google into every corner of your life... this might be the best option overall. All the old BB items are integrated already, coupled with Enterprise services this could be a winner. Exchange, Sharepoint, Active Directory, etc, etc, etc work just like they use to on the old BB platforms.

    If you are the adventurous type, get a device that can have the bootloader unlocked, find a developer that gives you Android without Google forced on you and then install all the Microsoft services. Use a secondary store option to keep things updated and install other apps. This is the least likely option to work in a BYOD situation as most IT departments are going to say... no, absolutely not.
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    04-21-2017 05:35 AM
  10. MrElectrifyer's Avatar
    Which operating system is better when using Microsoft services extensively? I have no point of reference as I have never owned an Apple or Android product (and not that anxious too either) but I'm leaning towards one of them for my next phone. I'm just tired of feeling like I'm making due with what windows10 mobile offers me. I've only been a windows phone user for about a year now (Palm and BlackBerry before that) but have been relatively "all in" on Microsoft services for quite sometime.
    So, when you're "all in" with things like OneDrive, Office365 subscription, Outlook2016 desktop client, and even an Outlook.com email account.... which OS (ios or android) works best?
    Way better on Android, hands down. On iOS, you can't have Microsoft services fully integrate with the OS and ditch whatever first-party option came on the device. Trying to use microsoft services by default becomes a time-waster if there's any crapple alternative...
    04-21-2017 07:08 AM
  11. upsidedown's Avatar
    It took months for me to finally get my Android phone to a state where I find it easy to use when I migrated from my Verizon 929. I am all in on MS services, but finally moved to the S7 for work and apps.

    So here is what I found:

    When I tried to automatically set up my outlook.com services on the phone, they only registered as IMAP so I did not have full integration. I had to set them up MANUALLY using the Google EXCHANGE setting on the Accounts page. Interestingly, when set up under MICROSOFT EXCHANGE ACTIVE SYNC on the accounts setup screen, I did not have access to all my sub calendars.

    Once the services were set up, you can use any Android app that you like for email, calendar, contacts, etc. I use the Calendar app from Google, and Outlook app for email (though I use it sometimes for calendar. For some reason, Google Calendar app does NOT let you change the color of the multiple outlook calendars. The option is not in the settings screen. I found an app called Calendar Colors that works brilliantly and resolved this issue.

    I tried a ton of Launchers, looking to balance ease of access and usability. I tried ZenUI, Nova, Touchwiz (stock on the Samsung), SquareHome2, and Arrow. I found Arrow had the right balance for me between customizability and ease of use.

    Photos are set to back up to OneDrive, but I also simultaneously upload to Google Photos (why not, it's free).

    I find Cortana more useful then Google Assistant so use that more.

    Groove was fine, but Spotify family pricing is needed.

    Good luck/
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    04-21-2017 08:38 AM
  12. DJCBS's Avatar
    MS services and apps are far superior on Apple devices than they are on Android, email and calender, onedrive, groove, office all look and work better on ios.
    I completely disagree. I find they work far far better on Android. Starting with the fact that they can tie more deeply into the OS.
    04-21-2017 09:36 AM
  13. DQuiLon's Avatar
    In my opinion, it all depends on what you are planing to do with your phone.... and also what you plan to install and use on a daily basis...

    In all honesty I have been an Android user for 6 years now, and most of my Microsoft services were delegated to my laptop which for the most part of those years was my "secondary" device.... Now I recently got a Surface Book and started using it more than my phone and Microsoft services are also on the rise in terms of my personal usage... so.

    If you are going to use your Android phone for services such as Skype, Email, and such you will be ok. I actually prefer using the Gmail app with my microsoft account credentials... and ironically I use the Windows 10 Mail app with my gmail credentials...

    Android OS has a slight advantage in productivity (depending on the particular device that you get) in that the recent version 7 of the system allows for native Windows splitting, and is a better multitasking experience than iOS... Also, with Android you do get proper Mouse cursor if you ever use a Mouse with your phone or Android tablet, and the difference will be up to the manufacturer to implement the proper mouse controls... I.E. my Sony only allows for "left click" in every situation, and you need to treat it like a finger tap... you can click-and-hold for long taps and such..... but my wife's Asus tablet allows for "left click" and a back function when "right clicking", which is super helpful for navigating the OS...

    I have use Office in Android and while is very limited as a creation tool it is the best option as a viewer/presenter. My Android phones have had always wired external display capabilities and I've taken advantage of this in more than one occasion for PowerPoint shows.

    I prefer Google's Remote Desktop, over Microsoft one, however I am sure that Microsoft's offering is at least just as good. In my case, I had the credentials all set and it was very simply to just tap and use.

    Just my 2c
    04-21-2017 10:02 AM
  14. TheZeeMan's Avatar
    App quality is irrelevant to this question. Not being able to set true default app alternatives in iOS relegates it to a second class alternative. If you are going to use a service as your default, you need to be able to set it as default. Android wins this regardless of app quality. That being said, used the rest, switched to Windows phones and never looked back.
    I'm not so sure about this. When I switched to an iPhone, I tried using the default mail app, but because I had a live.com account, it forced me to install Outlook and outlook wanted to take over everything, although I couldn't get the contacts to sync so I ended up just keeping iOS's default contact app.
    04-21-2017 02:16 PM
  15. nCogNeato's Avatar
    I've exclusively used Windows Phone/Mobile since 2007.
    • Samsung BlackJack, Windows Mobile 5
    • Samsung BlackJack II, Windows Mobile 6
    • Samsung Focus, Windows Phone 7
    • Lumia 1520, Windows Phone 8/8.1/10/back to 8.1
    • Lumia 640, Windows 8.1


    I love the mobile Windows OS for a thousand reasons.

    Over the last 10 years, I have converted many family, friend, and coworkers to the mobile Windows ecosystem.

    With that said, I have reluctantly decided to look elsewhere for my next phone purchase, and have spent an obscene amount of time researching this.

    My conclusion:
    • Microsoft products are better on Android than iOS.
    • If NFC (Android Pay) is important to you, buy one of the upcoming Nokia models (6, 5, or 3).
    • If you don't want NFC, buy the Moto G5 Plus (motorola.com/us/products/moto-g-plus).
    • If you want to spend more than $300 on a phone, Nokia will be releasing a flagship model later this year.


    If Microsoft ever decides to release a "Surface Phone" that can run full Windows 10 OS, I'll retire my Android in a heartbeat. But until then, I wish all fellow Windows Phone/Mobile lovers the best if they decide to hold out longer than I have.
    04-21-2017 04:25 PM
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