- 12-09-2012, 12:55 PM #26
Today i've found a video (it's in some kind of polish language, i can't understand it either but google translate helped me), it says a lot about the storage, he is in the menu in the review. Note that his 8s is full of apps, but what worries me is het next:
Other = 1 Gig
Apps = 400 MB
System = 1,91 Gig
Total available = 268 MB
His photos are stored on the SD, which is 32 gigs.
The phone states that it has 3,6 Gig of free memory, this is the way it's formatted, in fact it's 4 gigs but there is some kind of sophiticated counting system. As 1 gig is 1024 mb and so on. I don't get that story completely.
Anyway, here is the video. And the part of the memory is on 17:20
- 12-09-2012, 07:58 PM #29
Caches rarely get larger than available space. If you clear your FB cache and install a couple of new apps, and there's "less" room available to the cache, it will just cache less.
- 12-10-2012, 03:00 AM #30
- 12-10-2012, 04:00 AM #31
I dont know what will happen when the space gets full - I might try that though. No doubt 4Gb is not really enough, apps can request a certain amount of space be reserved for them no matter what. You cannot assume that any sort of cache is dynamic.
- 12-10-2012, 11:26 AM #32
I've had some contact with HTC itself, apparently with a very good informed spokesman, who told me the next:
It is not able for apps to control their cache with an eye on the amount of space available. I recommend that you empty your app-cache from time to time.
I've done some research on the app-market and it seems that there is no app available for it. It shoud, because every 8S user has to use it. Maby an idea for developers.
Anyway, it doesn't stop me from buying an 8S. The Nokia lumias are all ugly. Hehe, and I just like HTC
- 12-14-2012, 12:13 AM #34
Imagine if you took a stack of paper and ran it through a paper shredder then wanted to be able to quickly re assemble any given piece of paper to its original state. You need something to tell you where to get each piece and what sequence it goes in.
The 'other' data section in the chart consists of items like app cache data, email, texts, saved files (email attachments, downloads, etc). As mentioned previously only music/videos/pictures can be saved on an SD card. Anything else on the phone is stored on the built in memory chip. That is why i mentioned before you might be better off with a 7.8 device in some cases as it will likely be offered at $0 with an upgrade and have pretty good specs (say Lumia 900).
I'm not aware of the minutia on OS difference between 7.8 and 8 though, so that could certainly play into things.
- 12-14-2012, 05:15 PM #35
So I saw a post on WPCentral about SD cards and installing apps from them. So does that mean we can now install apps on SD cards? If so, that solves this "is 4GB enough" question for the 8S.
12-14-2012, 08:11 PM #36
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- 12-16-2012, 03:54 PM #37
Ok, thanks I get it now.
In my own opinion buying a Phone with an outdated (7.8 is only a sign of loyalty, not a real bone-breaking update) OS. I don't need that much apps, and games, so I will do fine with the 1 gig. Only thing is that I want to clear my cache from time to time. As I don't care about one or five seconds more load time, I don't want any cache on my Phone. Forget anything! It should be able to delete that cache somehow. The HTC app make more space is useless and I deleted it right away.
- 12-17-2012, 09:03 AM #38
I'm not a tech person so I really don't understand how much space is not enough etc. Basically, I'm very tempted to get an 8S. At the moment I use a Samsung Galaxy Y. I've used pretty much all of the space but I don't really need anymore, it's not an issue for me. I have a few apps (maybe 20), some pictures and thats it. Not much email/videos/music or anything like that.
Does this mean that space on the 8S will be more than enough for me?
- 12-17-2012, 10:44 AM #39
Hope that answers your questions. Also, judging an Android device apps with WP8 device app is slightly stupid.
Sent from my RaZr on MIUI.
- 12-19-2012, 01:46 PM #41
tmn0 - From what I've read about WP8 s that it dynamically adjusts the storage, the "other" is basically space made available for all the apps/games you've downloaded so that they can cache data. From what we have heard if you take your free space right down to like 10mb for example Windows Phone will release some of that "other" space into your free space. This may be incorrect and I've not seen any real world examples of it. Having 1GB of other on a phone that doesn't have much free space does take the ****
12-26-2012, 11:58 AM #43
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I've discovered the hard way that its far from enough because of the "other" issue...
I have 120mb free with the "other" setting occupying over 1gb and system occupying 2,02GB... on my 4gb HTC 8s
I've cleared the cache on the browser, on maps, etc... the "other category" is just out of hand.
If what was said was truth I would have been able to install applications bigger than 120mb using that "other" space.. truth is... I cant.
This "other category" is getting out of hand, I've seen posts of people saying it occupies 6gb or even 10gb. So this will always be a problem on every windows phone 8 model...
If there's nothing done about it in the next couple of days I'll have to returning my HTC 8s to the shop and get an android...
- 12-26-2012, 03:46 PM #45
I have an 8s and have installed 15 apps(below) and no games , the phone shows only 619mb remaining although when i tried to install sonic game I got the "sorry insufficient memory" message
tune in radio
so i very much doubt you will fit all your listed apps...
phone storage shows as follows
music + videos (needed for custom ringtones so cannot go on sd card) 15.17mb
other 835.83mb (have no idea what this is ??)
free space 619.83mb
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You can vote here for:
1. Store apps & attachments on external storage (microSD)
2. Manipulation of micro sd
3. Add File Manager to Windows Phone 8
Microsoft has to release an update for 8S users in order to allow apps and user data to be stored on microSD cards.
- 08-18-2013, 05:53 PM #50
From my experience, working in customer service as a high-ticket electronics sales person, I would advise you against 4GB worth if storage.
4GB in this day and age is not enough, when it comes to all the necessary files in the end, I would strongly suggest a 16GB minimum. This extra couple dollars invested into this purchase will ensure you much more benefit and enjoyment out of the product.
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