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11-06-2012, 11:49 AM #52
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Please stay on topic guys rather than taking cheap shots at each other. brmiller has a high oppinion of the 8X which is a fair one, and the 920 doesn't guarantee blur free shots as anyone who's used it will confirm (the first thing I did with the preview version I got to go hands-on with was see just how good OIS is, and it's a huge improvement but not instantly perfect).
This is an excellent thread so far with valid opinions and I'd hate to have to go all hyper-moderator on it
- 11-06-2012, 12:13 PM #55
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- 11-06-2012, 12:56 PM #59
I go to the gym and use treadmills and such as well. I previously had an HTC Arrive which was the EXACT same weight of the Lumia 920. Having it "bounce around" wasn't a problem because I either wore baggy shorts with thick, loose pockets OR I simply put it in one of the exercise machine shelves/cupholders/whatever have you to sit while I worked out. I wouldn't put ANY phone in my shorts if I were wearing tighter, form-fitting ones.
Plenty of people at my gym use iPhones or iPods in Otterbox or other "heavy" cases. It's never been a problem from what I can see.
I don't get the 'built-in amp" being an advantage either. The effective range on any modern smartphone's audio is more than enough for pretty much any decent pair of headphones. Making it louder doesn't make the music "sound better", but the high-frequency fatigue your ears will experience will most certainly be worse. You're just asking for the onset of tinnitus however many months down the road. Once you get it, there's no getting rid of that low frequency ringing.
This isn't to big up the Lumia 920 and to belittle the 8X. There are certainly use case scenarios where each excels. I just happened to find these two "reasons" a little odd id all.
- 11-06-2012, 12:56 PM #60
Their pricing is likely a result of a very sweet deal tied to AT&T exclusivity. It's becoming apparent why it was a smart move, even if it does upset a few customers.
Regardless... the the customer the question isn't about Nokia's financials. It's about what phone should they buy with the money they have.
If you're on AT&T, it's VERY DIFFICULT to not choose the Lumia 920. This is true even if you have a slight preference towards the 8X.
- 11-06-2012, 01:01 PM #61
The subsidy is likely AT&T's power move in order to create enough users for WP, and at the same time weakening Apple's stranglehold on them. They probably figured that the Lumia 920 was the best device to do that with. It also helps that Nokia is a company struggling to get a foothold in the US, so that gives AT&T leverage over them.
- 11-06-2012, 01:05 PM #63
- 11-06-2012, 01:28 PM #64
Headphones aren't the only way to play music -- there are also speakers and hi-fi systems. Music out of phones on speakers -- bluetooth or hard-wired -- often sounds awful. The 8X is one of the first phones to provide a high-quality high-volume experience.
Music is an everyday part of my life. Photos aren't. Give me a clearer, richer, music experience, please.
Unlimited 4G audio streaming on high-bitrate XBox Music with clear, rich sound > Tinny smartphone music with no bass, no treble, and distortion on a capped data plan
- 11-06-2012, 01:48 PM #66
I remember the Arrive had "SRS sound enhancement" that put a similar-to-Beats Audio EQ curve on music. I turned it off after 30 minutes and never turned it on again.
No disrespect to Dr. Dre. The man can mix a record with the best of them. I'm not a fan.
My wife seems to really like the Beats Audio in her Evo 4G LTE, tho.
- 11-06-2012, 01:59 PM #67
Since you're throwing carrier data plans into the mix, I guess this is a moot point as you cannot have the Lumia 920 anyway. But it's funny that people demand camera demonstrations left and right to prove which device has the best imager, but usually just throw quotes from the marketing sheet back and forth when it comes to audio.
- 11-06-2012, 02:55 PM #68
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- 11-06-2012, 03:50 PM #70
The first thing I hear on the Lumia video is ambient street noise, and it's at a low natural level as if you were there.
The first thing I hear on 8X video is HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. It's pervasive, and the ensuing narration is comparatively tinny and compressed.
As for the pictures, there are plenty of good-looking natural light pictures of both cameras. There aren't plenty of good-looking low light pictures of both, however. And I'm not just talking night time either.
- 11-06-2012, 03:57 PM #71
It was just a test for your eyes and ears. You didn't specify which video looks better, but I'm going to assume you meant the Lumia 920 so your eyes pass. Your ears on the other hand... if you can't hear the difference in audio I suggest you buy better headphones or go see a doctor.
- 11-06-2012, 04:37 PM #72
Where has it been "proven" that the camera is better in all conditions? Oh that's right it hasn't infact the opposite has been proven.if you can't hear the difference in audio I suggest you buy better headphones or go see a doctor.
- 11-06-2012, 05:00 PM #74
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