- 11-07-2012, 12:29 PM #101
The 8x is just an Android rehash? dumbest thing I've heard. If anything the 920 is a N9/900 rehash. The Nokia ball slapping just never stops. Heck, if I can get the 822 at a decent off contract price that's what I'm going to do. I will not, however, fabricate BS. Head over to phandroid or androidcentral and you will see a bunch of jealous people wishing the 8x ran android.
- 11-07-2012, 01:17 PM #104
I actually went and had a look at both phones today a working 8X in O2 along with dummies in P4U and into EE.
The 8X fits perfectly for my hand and is very nice to hold and I can reach pretty much all corners of the screen with one hand.
The 920 of which I could only test the dummies a white glossy one in P4U and a Black matte one in EE and well its also a nice phone and just as I had expected the weight is a over exaggerated con because its not a con at all the weight was nice and anyone who finds it heavy must have a medical problem.
However for me personally the width was a bigger problem and trying to access the whole screen with one hand could be a problem.
- 11-07-2012, 01:18 PM #105
The point is it's good for Windows Phone to have both Nokia AND the others around.
Nokia will push the envelope on design and innovation specific to Windows Phone because they have to, they are all-in on Windows Phone.
HTC, Samsung et al, will provide Nokia with some competition so they don't rest on their laurels and give consumers more choices so if they don't like the Nokia phones, they can still enjoy Windows Phone 8.
We need Nokia in the game, but we also need the others. Nokia can't keep Windows Phone going all by itself and Windows Phone without Nokia... well we've already seen what THAT looks like. :dry
- 11-07-2012, 01:28 PM #106
The most significant difference is the odd build dimensions of the 8X where it has a smaller screen and skinnier body, but is slightly thicker. But the underlying tech and horsepower is identical to last gen's flagship.
The 920 has significantly upgraded processor, camera module, audio processing, wireless charging, screen size, resolution, and screen tech from the Lumia 900.
Trying to equate the two is demonstrably false. No fanboyism here. Just facts.
- 11-07-2012, 01:41 PM #109
In all of the "You guys are ball slapping Nokia/Well, you guys are HTC fanboys" nonsense - and again, although I have chosen the 920, I am not demonizing the 8X and have defended it on these very forums - people are losing sight of the fact that they're reliant on each other and this platform.
HTC won't have a widely-released (in the US) device past the 8X for several months. Their "Droid DNA" is a Verizon exclusive launching well after the Galaxy Note II. If they're going to make it through the holidays and well into next year, they NEED their Windows Phone products to be a hit. Their financials are abysmal at present with just the "One" line for Android.
Nokia has to have a high profile, well-executed, consistently-selling product at some point. The Asha/low end devices help sales volumes, but not the bottom line so much.
WE need this platform to take off for our own selfish reasons. So why would any of us have ill wishes for any of these devices?
- 11-07-2012, 01:52 PM #111
But Nokia is adding extensive software customization via in-house and exclusive third party apps. HTC and Samsung are not.
Nokia is adding significant hardware differentiation from their Symbian and MeeGo phones with this design. HTC and Samsung are not from their Android counterparts.
Nokia took the lead in bringing hardware accent colors to this platform to accentuate the colorful accent colors of the OS. HTC and Samsung did not.
This isn't to malign HTC or Samsung. Just simply stating that Nokia's put a lot more work in, and HTC - at the very least - has drawn inspiration from it to some extent.
Hopefully, Samsung will too.
11-07-2012, 02:07 PM #112
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- 11-07-2012, 02:23 PM #113
Again, Nokia has gathered an impressive curated app collection to put a definitive stamp on the software. They put a unique camera on their WP8 device that NO prior Nokia device has had. Same for the screen tech. Same for the "Smart Shot" that they acquired from Scalado. There's a HUGE bullet list of value adds on the 920.
What software has HTC brought? A variant of the same weather clock they've been recycling since the HTC Hero in 2009? Their camera is identical to the one from 6 months ago. Obviously, many here can appreciate the music amp and the wider FFC. That's great.
I just don't consider those to be huge differentiators from the Android equivalent.
- 11-07-2012, 02:36 PM #114
I think the 8X is a better-looking phone by far, although I haven't seen either of them in person so I'm just going off of photos and videos I've seen on the internet. Still, design-wise I find the 8X to be SUPER sexy and the 920 just plain sexy.
In fact, I was really leaning towards the 8X back when the rumors indicated that the 8X and 920 would launch at the same time, and that the 8X would be $99 compared to $149 for the 920. If that had happened, I would've pre-ordered a yellow 8X for sure.
But instead, the 920 is being released weeks ahead of the 8X, is $99, AND comes with a free charging plate? That was enough to sway me to change my decision. My Cyan 920 should arrive on Friday!
11-07-2012, 05:18 PM #115
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There are many things that just don't make sense to me about the Wp8 phone range: 8x clearly going for the music angle with beats audio but I can't store more music on it than the iPod I had 5 years ago.... 920 that neither I or anyone can buy (in the uk) despite it being "released" ...watch out USA your next for this 1.... 820 that has a screen res equivalent to generation 1 smartphones but kicks in *** in every other category ..... The only 1 absolutely noone mentions is the ATIV S yet it's just a windows version of the current no1 selling phone in the world, which surely can't mean it's a complete turkey can it?
Unfortunately I'm beginning to conclude that WP8 might be a similar fail as WP7 ...there just isn't a phone here that looks like a realistic challenge to the iOS android duopoly ...sry I genuinely wished wp8 was going to succeed but it is not looking too good
- 11-07-2012, 05:42 PM #116
Edit= I was wrong. HTC did in fact tweak the camera. Sorry.
- 11-07-2012, 06:14 PM #117
WP8 phones are just beginning to be sold this weekend, and neither Apple nor Google have anything that can compete with the potential of the Windows 8/XBOX/WP8 ecosystem.
I don't know if it is all going to work out, but if it does, it will be awesome.
11-07-2012, 06:48 PM #118
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11-07-2012, 06:58 PM #119
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Everyone who has seen my 8X immediately remarks on how light and thin it is. Amazing, really, what tapered edges will do. The fact the screen is almost the same size as the 920 - and the phone really isn't that much smaller either - it's amazing how different the two form factors are.
Very pleased so far with my 8X (bought ONLY because the 920 is not available unlocked in the UK).
11-07-2012, 07:13 PM #120
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I've been a Nokia follower that fell in love with WP just because of Nokia, and I know I'm not the only one. People can moan that some guys on here seem to be more interested in Nokia than in WP/Microsoft, but Nokia themselves have simply contributed a lot to the WP following. For me Nokia comes first. I kinda liked WP when it first came out, but all those early phones that ran it (by LG, Samsung, HTC) were just so boring...
That said, I also really like Microsoft and especially the products and services that they have been creating lately. Windows 8 is awesome, WP8 is awesome, the Surface is awesome, Skydrive, Outlook, Office, all really good and imo underestimated by the general public.
The HTC 8X and 8S are the first HTC phones that I really like, they look fresh and it's clear that some efort has been put into the design (whether or not they took inspiration from the Lumia range is another thing). However, I think overall they do not match the uniqueness and innovation that Nokia has been showing with the 920 and to a lesser extent with the 820.
But what it ultimately comes down to is that you simply can't go wrong with either device (920 or 8X), because they are both great flagship phones. For the first time, WP has two models from two manufacturers that really stand out and represent WP in the best possible way. The decision between the two can only be based on the little things: it might be size/weight, storage, camera, price/availability, super sensitive touch or, in my case, some personal preference for the manufacturer. The privilege to have a choice should be celebrated.
The 8X and the 920 are being compared to each other all over the internet, which generates attention and also a sense that WP is really something that matters these days. Eventually Nokia will benefit from this as long as they keep making decent phones.
I don't care about Samsung at all, but the same thing holds for them of course
11-07-2012, 08:02 PM #121
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I've had the 900 in my hand only for a few minutes, and was surprised how big and clunky that thing is. I need to be able to use the phone using only one hand, and I don't think I'd manage that with the 900. The sexy 8X with its narrow screen brings me hope i'll be able to comfortably use a 4,3'' device.
Oh, and I replaced a Mozart for a Lumia 800 back in february only because of the cool looks. Apart from the awesome screen the 800 didn't offer any new features but a ****ty camera, poor battery life, crappy sound and bugs that haven't and won't be ever fixed.
That being said, I've put the 8X in my amazon basket and I'm almost ready to proceed to checkout. Can anyone confirm, what UI languages are available in the UK version of this phone, pretty please?
11-08-2012, 12:14 AM #124
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My gf doesn't have a problem with the 900 and I have no trouble with it either.
Simply put, if you don't like the size of a phone, buy a smaller f**king phone and save the griping for yourself. I don't care for this useless griping over which WP8 model is the best.
On the plus side, at least we can all agree that the Ativ is the ugliest and move on with our days :P