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  1. Scott King2's Avatar
    I have always been fond of Windows OS. I reluctantly own an iPhone 7 plus it's fair but not as solid as I heard iPhones were I had a Samsung s7 before it but after 5 phones with the same issues I switched. I have a small internet sales business. I do a lot of my sales and work on my iPhone but I feel it's not ideal. So honest answers is the Windows OS solid enough that I would make a good choice going to a 950xl. Do you feel it would be better for what I want to use it for? Thanks
    03-03-2017 01:31 PM
  2. zocster's Avatar
    I have an iphone and a 950 xl, I'm not sure what short fall you have from the iPhone, and how are you conducting this online sales business? If it is via email and browser, then the 950 is a capable device. When you start relying on apps, that's a different story (invoicing etc).
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    03-03-2017 01:50 PM
  3. Scott King2's Avatar
    Only apps I really use are ms note, ms one drive, excel, and ebay. I would say my biggest issue is I have to place orders through a website and the iphone seems to do an awful job with how it fits on the screen I have to keep bouncing back and forth from landscape view to upright just to see where i need to fill in boxes with text info
    03-03-2017 02:54 PM
  4. Scott King2's Avatar
    I would also like good battery life or at least decent
    03-03-2017 02:55 PM
  5. zocster's Avatar
    Only apps I really use are ms note, ms one drive, excel, and ebay. I would say my biggest issue is I have to place orders through a website and the iphone seems to do an awful job with how it fits on the screen I have to keep bouncing back and forth from landscape view to upright just to see where i need to fill in boxes with text info
    sounds more like the website is not optimized for mobile use. May be you can borrow a friend's device and check the website on the edge browser?
    03-03-2017 03:13 PM
  6. Scott King2's Avatar
    Thanks I will try it
    03-03-2017 03:16 PM
  7. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    As long as you update the Lumia 950 XL with the latest firmware/software updates before properly setting it up, it's a stable, fun device to use. Earlier builds of Windows 10 Mobile weren't particularly stable but nowadays I rarely have any issues with my Lumia 950 XL and it just works. I set the display to 300% font size so now I see even more on the spectacular QHD OLED display (it's a far better screen than the iPhone 7+). It seems like it might be a great option for what you're looking for, especially considering the fact that the Lumia 950 XL has a removable battery (leaving potential for hot swapping) and microSD card support (a boon for anyone who needs a bit of storage). Would I personally suggest it? Definitely. Do I think it would work for your scenario? That depends on whether or not Microsoft Edge would be any better than Safari at rendering the website. I'm inclined to think that setting Edge to render websites as desktop pages (an easy thing to do through settings...it's just a few taps) would help your situation, especially given the Lumia 950 XL's larger, higher resolution screen.

    All I can really tell you...try it before you buy it. I love my Lumia 950 XL but that doesn't mean you will.
    03-04-2017 11:23 AM
  8. Player Piano's Avatar
    The email app is absolutely unreliable on W10M. Some builds ago just opening an email from say UPS would force my phone to lock up, and opening some emails caused my phone to manually reboot. If you rely on email do not make the switch right now.
    03-04-2017 02:51 PM
  9. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    I have always been fond of Windows OS. I reluctantly own an iPhone 7 plus it's fair but not as solid as I heard iPhones were I had a Samsung s7 before it but after 5 phones with the same issues I switched. I have a small internet sales business. I do a lot of my sales and work on my iPhone but I feel it's not ideal. So honest answers is the Windows OS solid enough that I would make a good choice going to a 950xl. Do you feel it would be better for what I want to use it for? Thanks
    You might want to also look at the Alcatel Idol 4S for Windows. Same approx price as the 950XL for new non carrier branded versions.

    Alcatel has faster processor, more memory, more storage, much better battery life.

    Objective areas where 950XL is better: optical camera stabilization, Glance, Qi charging, faster charging, NFC.

    Subjective: 950XL has about same size but higher res screen (5.7 UHD vs. 5.5 FHD), appearance. Stock, the Alcatel looks and feels a lot better.

    I bought both. I carry the 950XL and my wife the Alcatel. If it wasn't for how much I like the Mozo leather and wood backs, I would go with the Alcatel. I don't take enough pictures for the optical stabilization to be a decider and don't use NFC. I don't care much for the 950XL battery life being maybe half what the Alcatel's is.
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    03-04-2017 03:37 PM
  10. TgeekB's Avatar
    The email app is absolutely unreliable on W10M. Some builds ago just opening an email from say UPS would force my phone to lock up, and opening some emails caused my phone to manually reboot. If you rely on email do not make the switch right now.
    Could it have been your phone? I have had multiple Windows 10 devices and never experienced this.

    Sent from mTalk on my SP4
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    03-04-2017 04:33 PM
  11. TgeekB's Avatar
    You might want to also look at the Alcatel Idol 4S for Windows. Same approx price as the 950XL for new non carrier branded versions.

    Alcatel has faster processor, more memory, more storage, much better battery life.

    Objective areas where 950XL is better: optical camera stabilization, Glance, Qi charging, faster charging, NFC.

    Subjective: 950XL has about same size but higher res screen (5.7 UHD vs. 5.5 FHD), appearance. Stock, the Alcatel looks and feels a lot better.

    I bought both. I carry the 950XL and my wife the Alcatel. If it wasn't for how much I like the Mozo leather and wood backs, I would go with the Alcatel. I don't take enough pictures for the optical stabilization to be a decider and don't use NFC. I don't care much for the 950XL battery life being maybe half what the Alcatel's is.
    I do miss the Mozo back but everything else is sweet. I'm not a big camera person but do appreciate the battery life and processor.

    Sent from mTalk on my SP4
    03-04-2017 04:35 PM
  12. Player Piano's Avatar
    Could it have been your phone? I have had multiple Windows 10 devices and never experienced this.

    Sent from mTalk on my SP4
    Trust me, I wasn't the only one with these problems. It was a very common topic discussed in these forums. That is what finally pushed me to a different OS.
    03-04-2017 07:04 PM
  13. TgeekB's Avatar
    Trust me, I wasn't the only one with these problems. It was a very common topic discussed in these forums. That is what finally pushed me to a different OS.
    Perhaps, but you can't make a sweeping statement if it doesn't affect everyone. People are on different devices, insider builds, etc. which provides many variables.
    Not disputing you, just pointing out an alternative view.

    Sent from mTalk on my SP4
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    03-04-2017 07:26 PM
  14. Elky64's Avatar
    Trust me, I wasn't the only one with these problems. It was a very common topic discussed in these forums. That is what finally pushed me to a different OS.
    Had the Ativ S, 1020, 830, 650 and 950, a few times in the early stages of the game my 830 did reboot on occasion (once/twice a month) but was fixed after an 8.1 update or hard reset (can't quite remember). Other than that can't say I've ever had a chronic reboot issue on any of Windows phones for any other reason... Touch wood.

    Now I'm not saying that wasn't the case with you as there has been well known inconsistencies within the platform experiencing it myself, just not in this instance.Speaking of hard resets, have you've done one of late and if so, same, worse or better results afterwards.
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    03-04-2017 07:50 PM
  15. Scott King2's Avatar
    Thanks for all the info everyone I really appreciate it. I really like how the 950xl looks so maybe that's what is attracting me so much
    03-04-2017 09:19 PM
  16. MrockNroll's Avatar
    Perhaps, but you can't make a sweeping statement if it doesn't affect everyone. People are on different devices, insider builds, etc. which provides many variables.
    Not disputing you, just pointing out an alternative view.

    Sent from mTalk on my SP4
    I have had 3 previous windows phones and now the 950XL and never had any e-mail problems or any other problems what's so ever. It's possible your particular phone has something wrong, is it's under warranty I would send it in for repair/exchange.
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    03-04-2017 09:28 PM
  17. MrockNroll's Avatar
    Perhaps, but you can't make a sweeping statement if it doesn't affect everyone. People are on different devices, insider builds, etc. which provides many variables.
    Not disputing you, just pointing out an alternative view.

    Sent from mTalk on my SP4
    I have had 3 previous windows phones and now the 950XL and never had any e-mail problems or any other problems what's so ever. It's possible your particular phone 📞 has something wrong, is it's under warranty I would send it in for repair/exchange.
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    03-04-2017 09:28 PM
  18. Elky64's Avatar
    Only apps I really use are ms note, ms one drive, excel, and ebay. I would say my biggest issue is I have to place orders through a website and the iphone seems to do an awful job with how it fits on the screen I have to keep bouncing back and forth from landscape view to upright just to see where i need to fill in boxes with text info
    I'd say you'd be OK with the first three but believe the eBay App is no longer available. In essence you'd be relying on the Edge browser not only for eBay but possibly in many other instances. I've had issues personally with Edge not displaying pages properly or not at all so it's anyone's guess if this will affect you. The only real way to know is to take a phone running W10M for a test drive, preferably a 950 XL or... I agree though the Alcatel Idol 4S may be the better choice for your type of usage, newer, better specs in some respects and superior battery life, so I hear.
    03-04-2017 09:33 PM
  19. Scott King2's Avatar
    Thanks again. I have a Microsoft store about an hour away I think I may head theee and try a few jobs there on their phone
    03-04-2017 09:58 PM
  20. Player Piano's Avatar
    The fanboyism is strong here.
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    03-04-2017 11:02 PM
  21. Player Piano's Avatar
    We have a dozen L640XL's that we run at our restaurants explicitly for email so we do not always have to be strapped to a desktop or laptop for grubhub orders, etc. All 12 of them needed to be flashed back to 8.1 the email situation became so bad for a while on W10M. At that point I began to unload all of my Lumia phones and accessories here and on ebay. Please search around the many threads discussing these mail issues. I still have my 950 and 920 and HTC m8. I still hope one day to be back to some Windows Mobile device, but for now I have committed to retrench for 1 year.
    03-04-2017 11:07 PM
  22. Elky64's Avatar
    The fanboyism is strong here.
    Well the OP did say he wasn't a fan of the other two platforms/wasn't working for him, and wanted others to chime in on whether W10M, and the 950 XL, would be a good alternative at this point and time.

    So seriously, all 13 of those phones (640XLs/950) running W10M are exhibiting same issues w/email and reboots? I didn't include 920 or HTC M8 since they weren't eligible for upgrade.

    What are you running for builds, insider, production?

    Were the 640 XLs "JUST" upgraded to W10M and left at that, or hard reset afterwards w/o using a backup, in other words, a fresh or clean install?

    I've had my fair share of problems with W10M but even I find it hard to fathom each and every device you mentioned incurred exact same ailment(s) across the board.
    Last edited by Elky64; 03-05-2017 at 07:13 PM.
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    03-05-2017 12:14 AM
  23. Scott King2's Avatar
    This may be a bad thing to say here but I loved my Blackberry passport easily my most favorite phone just reluctant to get another being they are getting to be pretty old tech.
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    03-05-2017 12:32 AM
  24. zocster's Avatar
    This may be a bad thing to say here but I loved my Blackberry passport easily my most favorite phone just reluctant to get another being they are getting to be pretty old tech.
    I'm like you BlackBerry 10 was the thing, until development halter, and now being pushed for "maintenance".

    I like their take on Android but is far from mature. I'm not going through the heart ache of it getting ditched in favour of something else down the track, hence I went with iOS and windows. At least I know the companies behind these platforms are working on them tirelessly.

    Back on topic...



    I have a variety, forwarders, to both outlook, gmail,
    aol, yahoo ..

    Windows not failed me yet, neither has iOS.



    Sent from mTalk on 950XL
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    03-05-2017 12:42 AM
  25. anthonyng's Avatar
    Thanks for all the info everyone I really appreciate it. I really like how the 950xl looks so maybe that's what is attracting me so much
    Now I know you're just pulling our leg! jk
    03-05-2017 02:02 AM
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