11-30-2012, 12:22 PM #1
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So the pricing finally came out yesterday for the Surface Pro
64GB - 899
128Gb - 999
(and if RT pricing for Canada is any indication, I'm guessing we're getting it for 919, and 1019 respectively)
On FB I keep seeing people complaining it's too expansive.. but it really isn't, i mean if you don't need full PC functionality then sure it's a little more than you need to pay, but there is RT for that... for those that need laptop replacement, but also want the mobility of a tablet this is the one that does it
RT Pro 1366x768 1920x1080 5 point touch 10 point touch Nvidia Tegra 3 Intel i5 2GB RAM 4GB RAM USB2 USB3 micro HDMI mini Display Port
(this thing can drive multiple monitors btw...)
32/64 64/128 Extras--------------------------------- Office 2013 Pen Input (digitizer included)
that's like across the board upgrade, the only downside is Office 2013 is not included, but with intel you can install old version of office that you may have lying around somewhere or buy it now for 119.99 which has all the same stuff the RT version has and free upgrade(iirc) to 2013 (or just buy 2013 straight) and there is always skydrive version in a pinch
i think the reason there is no keyboard bundle is to lower the price shock and have it get near the pricing other OEMs are putting it out at when you do get the keyboard (hm... weird sentence I think you get the idea)
it's only .5lb more than the RT so it would be much lighter than the cheaper laptops you might get
this is all down to your choice and needs and from comparing all the stuff out there, this price is actually very competitive imho
i was expecting around 1099 minimum, and wishing for 899 before... and it actually ended up coming out at 899 which made me happy :)
if anyone remembers, the price range ceiling that Ballmer gave out a couple month back was 899! he kept it within range
lastly, just plug a USB/Bluetooth keyboard in if you don't want to pay that much for the touch/typecover... it's not like this thing doesn't have virtual keyboard you know...
Disclaimer: I own the RT and am not planning on buying the Pro atm because I'm broke, but my friends are now considering the Pro a lot now because of the RT I showed them (and the fact that their old laptop is dying...)
Last edited by Nataku4ca; 11-30-2012 at 12:28 PM. Reason: formatting...
- 11-30-2012, 12:30 PM #2
It's a freaking ultrabook! What more do people want anymore? It runs full W8, legacy apps, and is smaller and lighter than any other ultrabook out there with probably (we don't know yet obviously) better battery life as well and also a full Wacom digitizer. It's also built like the proverbial brick chit house. Seriously, how much cheaper should it honestly be?
People need to quit whining so much about price and look at what they're actually getting for that money. Especially when the very first mark against a cheap product is its cheap build quality. The Surface is at or above the same level as Apple's build quality and is not charging an "Apple tax" for it either.
I think more than anything, people just want an excuse to flame the evil corporate empire Microsoft.
- 11-30-2012, 01:07 PM #4
It's really competitively priced.
I actually wish I had a need for one. Unfortunately, I can't justify spending the cash for it right now.
I want to NEED it though. Come on Microsoft, hire me to promote Surface! That way I'll need one as part of my job, right?
11-30-2012, 01:36 PM #7
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Seriously, what are people complaining about? I see some tech blogs trying to compare this to an iPad or Nexus 10. They should have their internet license taken away just for that. Of course we could all dream that this would be free, but $1000 is right in the ball park for an ultrabook. What's the big deal with this price, especially since you get the OOO-AHHH factor from people around you wanting to see it and try it.
- 12-01-2012, 11:30 AM #10
This was an incredible post from a co-worker that gives some comparisons:
Microsoft Surface Pro 128GB (with touch cover) $1119
ASUS Zenbook Touch UX31A $1493
Dell XPS 12 $1199
Lenovo Thinkpad Twist $1333
Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 13 $999
HP ENVY Touchsmart 4t-1100 $799
Toshiba Satellite U925T-S2300 $1149
HP: None (500GB hard disk)
MS: 10.6" 1920x1080
Dell: 12.5" 1920x1080
Twist: 12.5" 1366x768
Yoga: 13.3" 1600x900
HP: 14.0" 1366x768
Tos: 12.5" 1366x768
MS: Intel HD 4000
ASUS: Intel HD 4000
Dell: Intel HD 4000
Twist: Intel HD 4000
Yoga: Intel HD 4000
HP: Intel HD 4000
Tos: Intel HD 4000
MS: 10.81" x 6.81" x 0.53"
ASUS: 12.7" x 8.9" x 0.7"
Dell: 12.48" x 8.46" x 0.79"
Twist: 12.3" x 9.3" x 0.8""
Yoga: 13.1" x 8.9" x 0.67"
HP: 13.38" x 9.28" x 0.78"
MS: 42Whr (5 hours)
ASUS: 50Whr (8 hours)
Dell: 47Whr (8 hours)
Twist: 42.4Whr (6 hours)
Yoga: 54Whr (7 hours)
HP: ? (7 hours)
Tos: ? (5 hours)
This isn't every touchscreen laptop out there, but they're the ones that I like! Do let me know if there are other good ones out there that I should include.
Microsoft Surface: By far the lightest, if 2lbs means 2.0lbs. It is also 2" shorter and narrower than the others and a bit thinner. It only has one USB 3.0, where the other devices have two or more. It has the lowest price of those with an SSD, of those with two cameras, and of those with 1080 screens. Of these convertibles, it is the most like a tablet in form-factor. The battery life is disappointing, if true.
ASUS Zenbook: The most expensive and the best overall specifications. Even though you would pay nearly $1500, don't expect to play AAA games on this computer; it has the same integrated graphics as the others.
Dell XPS: I like how the screen folds down on the Dell, but you may have different preferences. It is the only convertible here with a 1080 front camera.
Lenovo Twist: This convertible has the best processor and otherwise very good specs. It’s cheaper than the Zenbook, but also has a lower screen resolution.
Lenovo Yoga: I think the folding back screen is a great idea, but I haven't seen it in practice. It has good battery life and middle-of-the-road everything else, but a nice price.
Toshiba Satellite: This is the only convertible I've listed that supports NFC. This device is probably most similar to the Surface and even has a similar price; it is larger, whether that is a pro or con your book.
HP Touchsmart: Easily the cheapest, in part I'm sure because it has a hard disk instead of an SSD. Do keep in mind that it has a large screen at a low resolution, so it probably does not look as good as the others. It's also the largest and heaviest. Relative to these contenders, one would criticize it as being a last-gen laptop with a touchscreen. That may be fair, but it is still $200 cheaper.
No matter if you call them ultrabooks-with-touch, convertibles, taptops, or just tablets-with-keyboards, this generation of devices has me very excited about the direction we're heading. I can't even imagine what the next generation will look like :)
- 12-03-2012, 02:23 PM #14
- 12-03-2012, 05:54 PM #16
Also, I can't see a dongle being that big - it would certainly be smaller than the cable it would connect to.
- 12-03-2012, 07:36 PM #17
- 12-04-2012, 11:51 AM #19
People are complaining about Storage Capacity and that it's only expandable by 64gb with microSDXC cards.
But most people forget that microSDXC technology is capable of 2TB. 64gb is simply the largest size available as of today.
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