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    Quote Originally Posted by Villain View Post
    seeing WP7/WP7.5 would be the Iphone 3/3GS... the correct question/comparison would be "how many apps did the iphone 4 launch with?"
    Your suggestion would actually be the worst possible way of comparing app market growth between WP and iOS. You are using version numbers as your yard stick. But software version numbers are completely arbitrary. Software vendors can slap any number on any piece of software at any time. They represent nothing but a label for a specific software configuration that existed at a certain point in time during its development. Using arbitrary labels as a basis on which to compare app market growth is entirely useless. Using time, which progresses constantly and is the same for everyone, is far more useful.

    The only relevant question is: "how did the two competing app markets progress after a comparable amount of time". We might look at a time span of two years. Both companies introduced new iterations of their products at that time. For WP it was WP8. For Apple it truly was the iPhone 3GS, not the iPhone 4.

    After that time interval, the WP app market had grown to roughly 120'000 apps (November 2010 - November 2012). Within that same amount of time, the iOS app market had grown to roughly 55'000 apps (June 2007 - June 2009).

    So, WP's initial app market growth has solidly outpaced what iOS experienced during the same phases of its life cycle. However, it was about after two years that iOS' app market started to take off. Another year later iOS' app market virtually exploded. These later phases are what the WP app market has no chance of keeping up with.
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    No interest at jumping to the BB10 devices for the announcement we got today, but again. WP team really needs to get this train going and fast.
    If the speed of the last 3 years has been anything Microsoft has already lost it. Not just to Android and iOS, but some of these newcomers as well.

    What does it tell about MS that Skype is available on launch for BB10, yet we WP users just got it and its the crappiest of all of the main platforms. Are they even truly serious about WP?

    I'm starting to feel strongly that Nokia had been way better with Qt and MeeGo. Essentially the work BB10 is using on the back-end and losts of similar UI elements.
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    RIM has shown me anything today. I think MS hasn't much to worry about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tissotti View Post
    What does it tell about MS that Skype is available on launch for BB10, yet we WP users just got it and its the crappiest of all of the main platforms
    They said that it's "Coming", not that it'll be available at launch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyCori View Post
    I think a lot of people forget,

    Blackberry 80+ million installed base > Windows Phone 25-30(?) million installed base.

    RIM might be losing day-to-day sales but has a much bigger installed base. RIM could leap frog Microsoft if even half of those users jump to BB10. It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that developers are looking to take advantage of new BB10 users. I think early numbers for BB10 will be huge (with most of that coming from corporations upgrading from BB7). The question is, will that growth be sustained?

    And like ltyarbro42 said, Microsoft isn't doing it on purpose. They've been paying devs, paying for commercials, paying for Nokia, paying paying paying since day 1. But money spent doesn't always translate into market share.
    A lot of work places have Blackberry's just like schools have a lot of PC's and not Macs. Eventually, that install base will change
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludwig1976 View Post
    People must understand that mobile version of Win8 is just "a plus", not a core business for MS. WP8 is, and will always be, just a spartan and minimalist OS, with little market share. MS will never grow WP adding a lot of features or releasing a lot of updates.. they don't care, they don't need.
    I think Microsoft sees quite clearly, as any forward looking technology company does, that the PC is becoming increasingly irrelevant. The smartphone on the other hand, is going to continue to become more and more relevant. Smartphones are not an area that Microsoft can really afford to abandon in a lot of ways and I don't think they will. Windows Phone is not the Zune. The MP3 player was a single function device that was inevitably going to become obsolete. Smartphones which are pocket computers, entertainment, gaming, email, and cameras all in one are NEVER going to be obsolete.

    So while Microsoft could walk away from Windows Phone, it is unlikely IMO. It's just far too important to the future of the company if they want to keep people tied to the Windows ecosystem.
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