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    Why did you link to a negative article?
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    Not to mention each click doubles his readership.
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    Can you even call that an article?

    A couple of sentences of opinion with a couple of graphs pinched from somewhere else.

    My 3 year old girl could probably do a better job.
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    almost expected to land on BGR's page. couple quick thoughts

    #1. Android must be in disaster as its lost market share as well.
    #2. It takes time and I like what I have seen from Windows, a couple more big name apps and get a flagship phone on verizon and I think they will gain momentum!
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    It's still early days. It's a new and yet to mature platform and the jury's out. As you say, more big name apps, more flagship phones and importantly, expedient and value adding OS updates. Who knows where M$'s mobile position might be then?
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    People are expecting wp8 to rule over night, Its only been 5 months and its been a strong start. Trust me MS are in it for the long run even if they only cater for 3rd or 4th place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madmik303 View Post
    People are expecting wp8 to rule over night, Its only been 5 months and its been a strong start. Trust me MS are in it for the long run even if they only cater for 3rd or 4th place.
    Slow and steady wins the race :)
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    Actually, fast and steady wins the race.
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    Well, we all know Microsoft always gets the last laugh.
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    Not surprising. We'll see by the end of the year were they are at.

    Microsoft's strategy has always been to keep plugging along until the competition trips. I don't think that is going to work with mobile.
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    Just keep at it and we'll soon be at a 10% market share, which is quite good imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaSteve View Post
    Not surprising. We'll see by the end of the year were they are at.

    Microsoft's strategy has always been to keep plugging along until the competition trips. I don't think that is going to work with mobile.
    Why wouldn't it work with mobile?

    MS doesn't necessarily wait for others to trip. It only appears that way.

    MS just keeps chugging along and steadily improves.

    Most of the time, successful companies get to the point where they become complacent. The risk of innovation is outweighed by the success of what they currently have. When that happens, MS passes them up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winning Guy View Post
    Most of the time, successful companies get to the point where they become complacent. The risk of innovation is outweighed by the success of what they currently have. When that happens, MS passes them up.
    Hmm... that sounds exactly like Apple right about now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a5cent View Post
    Hmm... that sounds exactly like Apple right about now.
    It sure does. Also, Google seems to be more interested in shutting down and breaking their own services than improving products. If Apple continues to stagnate, Google continues to deteriorate, and MS continues to innovate, then the traditional MS strategy will probably be very effective.
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    The difference between today and when Android/Ios had their breakthrough is: Competition.

    The smartphone-market today is filled with okay competitors... It is impossible to have a breakthrough at the rate Apple and Google had when they got their systems on the market since the market back then considered smartphones to be a business-tool and not a gaming/app-platform. Microsoft is in it for the long run, and they will gain momentum... But it is alot harder to drive momentum when all consumers believes the platform they have today is the only platform that can do A or B.
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    Is it really necessary for WP8 to be the #1 OS for us users to have a quality experience? Personally, as much as I'd like to see more people with WP, WP isn't for everyone. There is more than enough business for WP, iOS and Android, and even RIM, when it comes to the emerging markets and first time smartphone users. As long as MSFT matures the OS and adds enough apps, it will do just fine. I'd rather an app store filled with 300k quality apps than an app store filled with 1 million apps with only 200k really worth a damn.

    The worst thing MSFT can do is sit on their hands and not innovate by maturing the OS, a la RIM circa 2007-2010.
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    It's not a race. Android is king at releasing all these updates while at the same time, leaving some of their customers behind ala fragmentation. I hate that word and it is so cliche but it's really true. Now the same thing could be said for Wp7/Wp8 but the reality is, they wanted Wp8 to be on a unified architecture with their other software so as much as I hate it, it made sense. Android OTOH, has all these manufacturers releasing skins for their own devices, ruining the pure vanilla Android experience (unless rom'd), and ******* off an entire subset of users at each turn who do get 4.1.3.1.4 and those who are stuck on 4.1.3.1.3 etc.

    Personally, I honestly don't care if WP is ever number one because the only place to go is down and you think the negative or biased journalism is there now, wait until WP is at the top and we'll have nothing but doom and gloom every single day and journalists actually wishing for the death of WP.

    Just give me a few good games for time wasters, fill in the holes with a few solid "programs" (not apps darn it, I freaking hate that word and developer=programmer), and we're golden as far as I'm concerned. The reason why WP8 is exciting, is because it isn't mainstream and not everyone has it. Much like the original Droid and original iPhone used to be before they got so popular.
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    I have no idea what the rest of the world is doing with different os's and phones.

    here's the linked graph:


    does anyone have numbers/ratios for other consumer provinces that matter to add to this ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madmik303 View Post
    People are expecting wp8 to rule over night, Its only been 5 months and its been a strong start. Trust me MS are in it for the long run even if they only cater for 3rd or 4th place.
    it has been a solid start! All 1 has 2 do is look at tha numbers. In certain markets M$ is up nearly 200%! I call THAT a solid start;)
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    I give Apple credit for one thing, they offer only ONE model of phone. Imagine if Google and MS did the same thing. Walk into a phone store, your selections are iPhone, Google Phone, and Windows Phone. Keep your phones cheap, so when you upgrade your OS, you just about have to buy a new phone. Give people one extra year to upgrade, then pull the old OS. They key is cost of ownership in buying a phone whenever a new OS is released. I think MS is making a mistake by having exlusive apps and models. Much easier to support/debug/market a single model. Windows Phone is exactly like Windows ... IT HAS TO WORK on numerous models from different vendors. Google fell into the "Windows Trap" as well. Whereas iPhone is just like Apple OS, all controlled by a single vendor.

    Bottom line ... MS will do well in the long run. Perhaps it should be Flagship, "Nice to Have" and entry level as the models it supports. Only difference would be the body of the phone or just the logo. The it would be just like Apple for AT&T or Verizon or Sprint, same phone, just defferent logo but all offering the same three phones. Then let the accessory vendors fight it out for differentiating skins, cases, colors. After all, isn't that how many stores upsell whne you buy a phone?? Just my two cents .... thanks for reading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slai View Post
    Actually, fast and steady wins the race.
    Not according to my girlfriend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by invertme View Post
    Not according to my girlfriend.
    that's the truth, and how the girly wants it is always the truth. MS is doing it right by that standard, slow, steady, and the unpredictable launches wins the race good sir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by invertme View Post
    Not according to my girlfriend.
    Then she has no idea how a race works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GraemeT View Post
    It's still early days. It's a new and yet to mature platform and the jury's out. As you say, more big name apps, more flagship phones and importantly, expedient and value adding OS updates. Who knows where M$'s mobile position might be then?
    Quote Originally Posted by Madmik303 View Post
    People are expecting wp8 to rule over night, Its only been 5 months and its been a strong start. Trust me MS are in it for the long run even if they only cater for 3rd or 4th place.
    Everytime I read posts like these either here or on the blackberry forums I feel obliged to point out that neither these companies are new to the mobile phone OS game. When you're competing in the market strongly dominated by Android and iOS you don't have the luxury of not bringing your A game right out of the gate

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