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    Revealed: how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages | World news | guardian.co.uk

    So it really doesn't take much tinfoil to make that hat to keep that always-on Kinect away from the NSA, right?

    This is just astounding. It's not surprising, but it's horrifying to see that every single bit of data transmitted through Microsoft is open to government surveillance with the active help of Microsoft. Prism, it's a team sport!
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    Yup, only a month late with this post.

    Report: NSA Collects Data Directly From Servers Of Google, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook And More | TechCrunch

    In a statement to TechCrunch, Microsoft said: “We provide customer data only when we receive a legally binding order or subpoena to do so, and never on a voluntary basis. In addition we only ever comply with orders for requests about specific accounts or identifiers. If the government has a broader voluntary national security program to gather customer data we don’t participate in it.”
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    Which Microsoft totally denied. And now we know they straight-up lie about protecting customer privacy.

    "We provide customer data only when we receive a legally binding order or subpoena to do so, and never on a voluntary basis. In addition we only ever comply with orders for requests about specific accounts or identifiers. If the government has a broader voluntary national security program to gather customer data we don't participate in it."

    Prism is a team sport. Microsoft seems to like to play.
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    I will say what most of us have been told for years: If you don't want someone else to know about it, don't put it online.

    Usually people used this saying when describing social networks. Hopefully, though, people thought about it with anything and everything digital. Like most people, I pretty much knew this was the case, but was just keeping it out of sight, out of mind.

    Just remember, anything connected is fair game.
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    The NSA now has copies of letters expressing my undying love for my special lady. I must hide!!!
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    I can see "Person of Interest" 's rating rising soon!
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    No one is private from any company, on any device, ever. So idrc.
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    This does not surprise me at all.
    Way to go 'Murica.
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    It's Big Brother Comrades :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by tekhna View Post
    Which Microsoft totally denied. And now we know they straight-up lie about protecting customer privacy.

    "We provide customer data only when we receive a legally binding order or subpoena to do so, and never on a voluntary basis. In addition we only ever comply with orders for requests about specific accounts or identifiers. If the government has a broader voluntary national security program to gather customer data we don't participate in it."

    Prism is a team sport. Microsoft seems to like to play.
    Geez, always with the hyperbole and flame baiting.

    You overlooked this part in the article

    In a statement, Microsoft said: "When we upgrade or update products we aren't absolved from the need to comply with existing or future lawful demands." The company reiterated its argument that it provides customer data "only in response to government demands and we only ever comply with orders for requests about specific accounts or identifiers".
    I guess that's not true either right? MS just totally has it out for the people that buy their products because they're just twisted and demented like that right? Yeezus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mase123987 View Post
    I will say what most of us have been told for years: If you don't want someone else to know about it, don't put it online.

    Usually people used this saying when describing social networks. Hopefully, though, people thought about it with anything and everything digital. Like most people, I pretty much knew this was the case, but was just keeping it out of sight, out of mind.

    Just remember, anything connected is fair game.
    ^^^^^This
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    Quote Originally Posted by blehblehbleh View Post
    Geez, always with the hyperbole and flame baiting.

    You overlooked this part in the article



    I guess that's not true either right? MS just totally has it out for the people that buy their products because they're just twisted and demented like that right? Yeezus.
    Doubleplus good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mase123987 View Post
    I will say what most of us have been told for years: If you don't want someone else to know about it, don't put it online.

    Usually people used this saying when describing social networks. Hopefully, though, people thought about it with anything and everything digital. Like most people, I pretty much knew this was the case, but was just keeping it out of sight, out of mind.

    Just remember, anything connected is fair game.
    That may be true, but it doesn't make it right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blehblehbleh View Post

    I guess that's not true either right? MS just totally has it out for the people that buy their products because they're just twisted and demented like that right? Yeezus.
    Pull your head out of the sand, buddy.
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    All of the big tech companies have some splainin to do. I would still be more suspicious of Google considering they're giving out customer data to corporations just for the hell of it.

    People should also direct their anger towards the government and the NSA since they are the ones demanding this data under the guise of security.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nokialove View Post
    Pull your head out of the sand, buddy.
    The point is, you nor I really don't know what legal action the government either threatened or used to back as the foundation for such requests. What best interest would it serve for MS to willingly give that information out? Until you have evidence that they volunteered access like the two "anonymous" wireless networks recently discovered in Snowden's leaked info you really can't say much.

    Plus we don't know what extent the relationship was/is between Microsoft and the government. Once we know more can we really say MS should be held accountable like the government.
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    I'll compare this to people placing mirrors in ther cubes so they can see if anyone is watching them. I don't keep any mirrors at my desk as I don't care if anyone is watching me or not. If someone wants to waste their time watching me then more power to them.

    Same goes for my emails, posts, etc. I don't do anything to raise any intererst so they can collect whatever they want. About all there gonna get is me calling you all a bunch of goofballs 3-4 days a week.
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    Always on Kinect + NSA partnership.

    Wonder what could happen, hahahaha, what a disgrace.
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    Blaming MS for complying with the government's mandates is absurd. MS already knows what can happen if the government wants to punish you. They apparently comply to the level they are required and no more. If you want to point the finger, turn it to the NSA while the three other fingers are pointing back at you. Vote in people who believe the government should be limited in its scope and power or stop whining.

    Too many freedoms have been voted away in the interest of "safety" when the ability to track and deal with terrorists can be achieved without all of this.
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    So basically the first MS did after taking over Skype was to integrate a backdoor to spy. Great job!
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    Quote Originally Posted by falconrap View Post
    Blaming MS for complying with the government's mandates is absurd. MS already knows what can happen if the government wants to punish you. They apparently comply to the level they are required and no more. If you want to point the finger, turn it to the NSA while the three other fingers are pointing back at you. Vote in people who believe the government should be limited in its scope and power or stop whining.

    Too many freedoms have been voted away in the interest of "safety" when the ability to track and deal with terrorists can be achieved without all of this.
    truth has been spoken here
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyCori View Post
    Yup, only a month late with this post.
    And that statement from MS was a complete lie.

    From Snowden's press conference today:

    "I also had the capability without any warrant to search for, seize, and read your communications. Anyones communications at any time. That is the power to change peoples fates."

    And not mentioning that the first thing MS did after buying Skype was to build in a backdoor to record voice, video and chats.

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