- 01-16-2013, 03:22 PM #1
I have never used a docking station before, so excuse my ignorance.
The set up I was thinking about was getting a Surface Pro and a docking station so I can use it on a larger monitor and keyboard when at home. So my question is, has MS announced or has there been any hints of a docking station specifically for Surface devices? Something that looks cleaner and looks like it was made for the tablet where it would just snap in. If not, I'm probably going to have run wires from the Surface to the docking station to the monitor? Just trying to avoid clutter.
01-17-2013, 08:43 AM #7
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serial port? not sure theres a device with a serial port for a few years :p it does have an HDMI (mini?).
the "dock" would literally need to be a slot with a properly oriented HDMI/USB/power plug that would match the surface. (all the ports are on the same side of the surface)
Not exactly what we understand as a dock, but serves the same general purpose.
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01-21-2013, 01:00 PM #12
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- 01-21-2013, 03:16 PM #13
DisplayLink's real-time adaptive compression technology automatically balances the compression methods in use from moment to moment, based on the content, available CPU power, and USB bandwidth, to provide the best possible USB graphics experience at any given moment. With DisplayLink virtual graphics, video processing and compression software is installed on the PC, and decompression happens at the chip, which can be embedded in a docking station or in a monitor using an adapter.
The third and newest generation of DisplayLink adaptive compression takes advantage of bi-direction throughput of SuperSpeed USB with USB 3.0. SuperSpeed USB is capable of running up to 10 times faster than the previous USB generation, transferring data at speeds of up to 5 gigabits per second. With DisplayLink adaptive compression, peripherals based on its DL-3000 chip platform can process multiple high-definition video signals to run two HD displays, networked data, high-resolution graphics, and audio channels simultaneously.
Newer chip platforms from DisplayLink, like the DL-3000 family, are backwards-compatible and use adaptive compression to bring enhanced video to USB 2.0 monitors.
01-21-2013, 06:19 PM #14
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Thanks JHoff80 - Not trying to be argumentive, but i can attest that the Targus USB 3.0 docking station works great with my UX31A and I'm getting HD resolution. The only thing connecting the docking station with my computer is the USB 3.0 cord. So I guess who cares if the signal is compressed if I'm still getting the resolution I want? The answer to the original question if you'll be able to use the Surface Pro with a USB 3.0 docking station, I believe is "Yes"
EDIT: The only thing i have hooked up to my docking station is a USB keyboard, mouse, monitor and a DVD drive. Now that I think about it, the couple of times I used the DVD (to load software), it did seem very slow. After reading your post, perhaps the USB 3.0 port, (about 5MBS) is able to handle the 4MBS for the monitor, and the 1MBS left over is enough to handle the mouse and keyboard with ease. Would it be fair to say that a USB 3.0 docking station will be ok to use with a surface pro as long as you don't add too much else to it besides the monitor, keyboard, and mouse?
EDIT2: Since I'm planning on using a bluetooth mouse and keyboard with my surface pro anyway, perhaps I'll have even more mbps to connect something else besides just a monitor.
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01-25-2013, 12:43 AM #15
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Some good points here and to add another perspective I'd still really like some form of 'dock' even if it results in many cables (video, USB 3.0, audio, power). The cables could all be routed and wrapped up inside the dock and then exit in one of those single cable management 'tubes' or something. The benefits being that it would tidy, the dock could provide an adjustable stand of some sort for the Surface and with some mechanics all the ports could possibly be locked in with one movement. I'm keen to have the all the cables rather than bluetooth because I'd like to run it all through a KVM.
01-25-2013, 02:49 PM #16
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I've installed quite a few of USB 2.0 video displays and never had any issues with quality. Usually we setup wireless USB 2.0 to projectors and large flat panel TV's in conference rooms.
I'm not saying that USB video is as good as display port or HDMI but it works fine. I even think "USB display port" supports CEC? VGA and DVI-I which is used on 95% of monitors doesn't even support CEC.
CEC is encryption which is used for things like cablecards and bluray movies.
Can't wait to be able to watch live tv on my surface pro using media center and cablecard. with instant access to my 700 bluray collection all on 1080P
01-28-2013, 04:14 PM #19
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Plenty of usb ports on the monitor base for proper keyboard, mouse etc.
Have been looking at dell Latitude 10 tablets that have a dock as a tablet soln for my company, but I think the surface pro with this monitor & built in dock is looking better
- 01-28-2013, 05:42 PM #20
The problem here is not only that it's a USB video out in those sorts of docks, but that you're sharing that same bandwidth for a ton of other things. So if you're transferring a ton of files from a USB 3.0 hard drive, then that's going to be affected by the video, and even more so if you're using Ethernet at the same time, and so on and so forth. And the higher your resolution, the more this can get worse. And on top of that you're also using up some of your CPU, since the video gets transcoded/compressed on the fly using the PC hardware.
Sure, it might work perfectly for you. But if there's another solution that you can use (such as Bluetooth for everything) you're better off doing so.
01-28-2013, 08:50 PM #21
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That Dell s2340t monitor looks perfect for docking! Having audio, ethernet and peripherals run through USB 3.0 and video via DisplayPort would be awesome. I might nearly be able to ditch my KVM, or replace it with just a USB switch.
I'd forego the touch screen for a cheaper price though, and it's a pity they don't do it in 16:10 with one of their UltraSharp panels.
- 02-11-2013, 02:07 PM #22
Has anyone actually connected a Targus, Kensington, or other DisplayLink port replicator (docking station) to the Surface Pro yet? If so, what was your experience? Did it run video okay? Was Ethernet running at full speed?
02-11-2013, 06:02 PM #23
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The Surface Pro has additional connections on the bottom that currently aren't being used. Panos said they will be for additional accessories such as a battery add on. I see them making a more rigid keyboard/battery dock pretty quick. I picked up the touch cover and am hoping on getting a more rigid dock as well cause I don't like the feel of the type cover keys behind the device in tablet mode.
- 02-11-2013, 07:25 PM #25
The Surface Pro has four extra pins. That's enough for USB 2.0, but not much more.
From the Reddit AMA, those are instead almost definitely for a battery keyboard, but you're not going to see extra ports there. They also explicitly said they're not working on a desktop dock.
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