01-29-2013 09:17 PM
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  1. kendric84's Avatar
    I was having trouble getting my Surface to recognize my Touch Cover so I rebooted. When it came back up I had four rows of tiles on my Start screen. (See pic)

    I'm 99% sure there is no setting for this and it's controlled by the OS based on screen resolution. Am I crazy?

    Unfortunately, I rebooted again and the fourth row went away :( I think I would actually like having four rows.

    Anyone else seen anything link this?
    10-30-2012 07:02 PM
  2. pinbak's Avatar
    Yes, I restarted mine yesterday and it did the exact samething!! Also, I restarted it again and the 4th row went away. I then went looking for a setting or something to make it this way but couldn't. Be nice to make it that way permanently!
    10-30-2012 07:07 PM
  3. Stormwatch342's Avatar
    Registry editor hack

    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ImmersiveShell\Grid

    Right click in the main window, select New, and create a new DWORD (32-bit) Value. Now, rename it to Layout_MaximumRowCount. and then open the key to set the custom maximum number of rows. You can restart or log off your computer to implement the changes. On a monitor with 1920 x 1080 resolution, you can get up to 6 rows of tiles on the Start Screen.


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    10-30-2012 07:10 PM
  4. Stormwatch342's Avatar
    Just wanted to note I have not tried or tested this. Use at your discretion.
    10-30-2012 07:12 PM
  5. kendric84's Avatar
    Registry editor hack

    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ImmersiveShell\Grid

    Right click in the main window, select New, and create a new DWORD (32-bit) Value. Now, rename it to Layout_MaximumRowCount. and then open the key to set the custom maximum number of rows. You can restart or log off your computer to implement the changes. On a monitor with 1920 x 1080 resolution, you can get up to 6 rows of tiles on the Start Screen.


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    I assume it's some sort of glitch but glad to hear that I'm not the only one experiencing it.

    Thanks for sharing this tweak!
    10-30-2012 07:12 PM
  6. kendric84's Avatar
    Just wanted to note I have not tried or tested this. Use at your discretion.
    I tried it and it didn't work. I also tried changing the other values that seemed to be related to row count, "Layout_MaiximumAvailableHeightCells" and "Layout_AvailableHeightCells" but after a reboot they were set back to their original values.
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    10-30-2012 07:24 PM
  7. Stormwatch342's Avatar
    Possibly only works on x86/x64 or screen resolution takes priority.
    10-30-2012 07:26 PM
  8. Skaughtto's Avatar
    Didn't work for me either - a 4th row would be nice.
    10-30-2012 08:03 PM
  9. power5's Avatar
    On start screen go to settings charm. Click Tiles at top. Click the slider to more tiles.

    This is on my desktop win8 pro. If you don't have this setting option then its a desktop setting that can be changed
    10-30-2012 08:11 PM
  10. Skaughtto's Avatar
    On start screen go to settings charm. Click Tiles at top. Click the slider to more tiles.

    This is on my desktop win8 pro. If you don't have this setting option then its a desktop setting that can be changed


    Not an option :(
    10-30-2012 08:18 PM
  11. power5's Avatar
    Sucks, must be a pro option only.
    10-30-2012 08:19 PM
  12. jhoff80's Avatar
    Sucks, must be a pro option only.
    No, the "Show More Tiles" option is based on the resolution and size of the display.
    11-01-2012 02:23 PM
  13. DougB541#CB's Avatar
    I guess its an option still in the OS but locked out to users with lower resolutions...but I guess a bug sometimes that still changes the amount.

    Interesting...btw, did anyone else have a Windows RT update today? I did but have no idea what the update was for.
    11-01-2012 02:59 PM
  14. power5's Avatar
    No, the "Show More Tiles" option is based on the resolution and size of the display.
    What is odd is that my 1080p does not have the more tiles option, but when I use my 1440 screen I get that option. Actually on my 1080p I get 6 tiles vertical and on my 1440 I get 7 tiles. So definitely resolution based. 7 must be the maximum though because when I set my 1080p to portrait I can still only get 7 vertical tiles.
    11-02-2012 09:02 PM
  15. SonofNun's Avatar
    Hello all,

    Last week, I discovered how to get four rows of tiles on a Surface. Unfortunately it is only temporary, but it is interesting nonetheless. I do wish there was a way to permanently set four rows as the default.

    Here's a link to my post: How to get four rows of tiles on your Surface RT JG's Tech Thoughts

    Thanks,
    Joshua
    @sonofnun
    11-25-2012 11:25 AM
  16. Eric Hon's Avatar
    Hello all,

    Last week, I discovered how to get four rows of tiles on a Surface. Unfortunately it is only temporary, but it is interesting nonetheless. I do wish there was a way to permanently set four rows as the default.

    Here's a link to my post: How to get four rows of tiles on your Surface RT JG's Tech Thoughts

    Thanks,
    Joshua
    @sonofnun
    I also was able to replicate the 4 row tiles as you described. it goes back to 3 row tiles after the tablet is in sleep or lock mode.
    11-25-2012 01:13 PM
  17. dev_sec's Avatar
    Permanent resolution:

    .reg begin -->

    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Scaling]
    "MonitorSize"="15.4"

    <-- end

    Reboot after adding the reg value.

    One more thing - after doing this, flip to portrait mode, swipe Settings -> Tiles -> "Show more tiles" to enable a total of 9 rows in portrait.

    Note that this only affects the modern ui; and, only scales to the minimum permittable font scaling for the actual resolution.
    Last edited by dev_sec; 01-05-2013 at 08:31 PM.
    01-05-2013 08:11 PM
  18. jhoff80's Avatar
    Does that affect anything else in the OS?
    01-05-2013 08:14 PM
  19. dev_sec's Avatar
    Nope - this only affects the modern ui; and, only scales to the minimum permittable font scaling for the actual resolution.
    01-05-2013 08:27 PM
  20. jhoff80's Avatar
    Thanks for that registry hack, but I gave it a try and as it turns out, it makes the onscreen keyboard tiny, so I can't use it.
    01-05-2013 09:19 PM
  21. fc000's Avatar
    Thanks for that registry hack, but I gave it a try and as it turns out, it makes the onscreen keyboard tiny, so I can't use it.
    Yup, noticed this as well. Keyboard becomes tiny and unusable.
    01-06-2013 09:19 PM
  22. MDboyz's Avatar
    From other post, changing the MonitorSize to 13.1 will work too. The keyboard is still visible in good size.

    Permanent resolution:

    .reg begin -->

    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Scaling]
    "MonitorSize"="15.4"

    <-- end

    Reboot after adding the reg value.

    One more thing - after doing this, flip to portrait mode, swipe Settings -> Tiles -> "Show more tiles" to enable a total of 9 rows in portrait.

    Note that this only affects the modern ui; and, only scales to the minimum permittable font scaling for the actual resolution.
    01-08-2013 08:16 PM
  23. dakranii's Avatar
    I just did 12.1, which I read is the smallest you can do. It works for me. the keyboard is slightly smaller than normal, but it works for me. I can always switch back. But a 4 row looks great, Iove it!
    01-08-2013 11:35 PM
  24. fc000's Avatar
    I just did 12.1, which I read is the smallest you can do. It works for me. the keyboard is slightly smaller than normal, but it works for me. I can always switch back. But a 4 row looks great, Iove it!
    Yup that's right, saw on XDA that 12.1 gives you a more usable on screen keyboard. It's perfect.
    01-09-2013 10:59 AM
  25. Jake_M's Avatar
    I turned my Surface on today and I have 4 tile rows. I didn't do this mod. ???
    01-29-2013 07:55 PM
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