- 01-16-2013, 08:04 AM #1
Well, it looks like some real numbers are coming out and there were about a Million Surface's Sold:
Just one million Surface RTs sold? | ZDNet
So, with the majority of that time being sold in their stores and online only, is this good or not?
I for one am enjoying my Surface but I also don't want to be stuck with a doorstop in a short period of time either. Thoughts?
- 01-16-2013, 08:18 AM #2
One million is pretty good IMO. When apple released the iPad, it hit one million within one month, but there was no competition at that time. Also, I imagine microsoft is making a good deal of profit at this premium pricing. I could see the next iteration of the surface costing much less if the other OEMs decide to give up on RT.
Considering the rumors around Xbox, I really think microsoft is planning to stick with RT for the long haul.
- 01-16-2013, 08:39 AM #4
One of the more strange complaints about the Surface RT is how it isn't FULL Windows 8. First of all, iPad isn't full OSX but no one complains. Second, Windows RT is more of a PURE Windows 8, removing all of the possible bloat from legacy support. If Windows 8 and its app store continue to grow, there will be a place for Windows RT.
- 01-16-2013, 09:54 AM #5
As far as it being pure Windows 8, I don't know about that. Look at how much free storage is available out of the box; not a lot. If RT were a stripped down Windows I would think it would be much more lightweight.
- 01-16-2013, 10:10 AM #6
I am kind of torn about my Surface. I do like it but I do fall into that mindset, at times, where I wish it did run legacy apps. When it comes to that, I pull out my still workhorse of a laptop with Windows 8 on it to get my GOG.COM games fix! :)
- 01-16-2013, 10:16 AM #7
I think a million sold is a great number. MS is playing the long game with Surface and I'm pretty sure that they're more concerned with plowing forward than comparing Surface sales to iPad sales. At least at this point.
No company is going to create a viable platform out of thin air overnight like Apple did. The category is defined, but MS can (and I think will) carve out a nice space.
- 01-16-2013, 10:21 AM #8
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- 01-16-2013, 10:53 AM #12
Depends on which POV, I thought they would struggle for a million for the quarter before release, I just didn't see the demand to purchase a surface to be that high. There was high interest sure because people are curious, but that doesn't translate to sales.
So assuming this number is correct, not surprised, so not so bad and no so good IMO.
If MS actually thought they would sell 3-5 million which was reported prior to release, if that article and projection were true, im not sure who at MS would think that, but they are likely out of touch with the market. Now if MS is saying 3- 5 million in a year? Possible, in a quarter? I would of said no way, so in that POV, very bad.
I had a conversation with an MS manager a couple months before the release and he admitted that they would have issues in distribution, they just dont have the channels available to get this out if there was super high demand. So they didn't expect high volume of sales out of the gate since the device would be essentially limited to MS retail stores in the beginning. Since they carry at BB and Staples now, I suspect the demand had died off a bit. So this conflicts with the 3-5 million projection that was originally reported. He also said that MS understood wp8 will probably struggle for a few years, but they are in for the long-term. When I say MS manager, im not talking about a store manager, im talking about a manager in corporate.
I purchased surface RT on launch day and I am happy with my purchase. I understand the limitations of RT and wanted a "tablet" only device. So I use it basically as a consumption device with the ability to produce with office. What they need to do now is optimize the 1st party apps and get some real apps and games on this thing. I would think they can get a couple of the xbox arcade games on this like a bobblehead baseball or torchlight. I hope they do.
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- 01-16-2013, 12:18 PM #15
Any time you say <insert platform here> is better than <insert another platform here>, you are going to generate controversial content..
- 01-16-2013, 12:47 PM #16
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- 01-17-2013, 01:14 AM #19
Work by perspective:
My kids like "work" on the ipads at school. I bet they would like "work" just as much with whatever was placed in front of them, but I'm not going the guy that says "but its just like what you asked for!" on christmas.
Make surface BE that device instead of be-just-like. The rest is easy cheese.
01-17-2013, 07:27 AM #20
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My kid has to use an iPad for her highschool - the school issued every kid one. It's working out OK - mostly due to one app that does a good job of allowing markup of PDF files, and by using a stylus. She hates writing on the iPad, even with a bluetooth keyboard. Could the surface do that? Yes, with ease.
I use my surface for 6+ hours daily at work (haven't undocked my laptop since I got the surface, no more laptops at meetings) and then for a couple hours at home. Never did that with an android tablet, or an iPad.
- 01-17-2013, 07:46 AM #21
People -like- toys.
I don't believe telling people "this is a serious work machine!" is something that will turn hearts and minds. I see "surface has office" mentioned a lot too. Great. The school/companies pcs have office. The library has office. My old desktop hasss office. That's not really a eye opening WOW thing for people.
The surface keyboard TECHNOLOGY and sensitivity is wow. The display toughness technology is wow. The body is wow. The arm arch is wow. But office ?
I hope one person will put down the fanflag and see what I mean. Jusssst one.
- 01-17-2013, 08:12 AM #22
Wow I bet you didn't think it would be me... I agree Windows RT needs something more to beat the iPad. Price point would be a good start. We can do more with WRT that is a fact but it has yet to be properly utilized. How will Microsoft proceed is a million sold enough to invest the talent in growing the OS? How committed is Microsoft to getting this done. A nice port of Halo even the original would go a long way. I think it will get a little more interesting when the Surface Pro hits I will like to see if that surge pushes Microsoft to do more with RT or less. Only time will tell.
- 01-17-2013, 08:28 AM #23
I think MS is marketing the RT wrong. I know they want the hip crowd on board, but the whole point of Win8 is for the masses and emerging markets. It is a way to "dumb it down" and make windows appealing to computer illiterate people. I could set my RT in front on my grandmother, show her a few things, and she would be fine operating device and getting what she needs out of it, with no prior computer experience. The reason tablets are replacing computers is because 70% or so of consumers don't need anything more than internet access. I read blogs with power users complaining about W8. Its not for that minority. It is for the casual users or new users. The RT is the perfect device for the casual users with just enough to keep most power users satisfied. My dad can find a virus or lock up a computer without even trying. He has no problem with RT and I don't have to worry about him tinkering and causing problems. I got the RT at launch and just recently picked up laptop with W8. The transition has been a breeze because of my time with RT. I also like that I can have the same app running on my computer and my RT.
I'm not really concerned with how many RTs are sold. MS will sell them and people will buy them once MS figures out a way to market the devices to the people who will love the OS. They really need to be going after the elderly and casual users. That is where they can sell very well. They also need to drop the price to appeal to that group. RT is not a full laptop replacement and may never be. But it can perform every function the casual users will need in a computer and k.i.s.s.
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- 01-17-2013, 11:47 AM #25
How often does one use Office other than for homework or business work? I have Office 2010 Professional, since I got it for $99 when I was a student. The only thing I still use regularly is Outlook. I'll use Word, Excel and PowerPoint occasionally. I never used Access or Publisher.
I agree with Dave that RT needs more games. There are a lot more iOS/Android games right now, but if RT got the Xbox game titles that would be a huge selling point.
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