- 01-28-2013, 01:41 PM #1
I've seen a few steps on getting the RT to see the sdcard in the libraries. If i were to make a video, documents, music, pics folder in the SD, do some stuff and then you can see all your files in the respective app.
So for example, if i had my music in my sd card under a music folder, the music app would recognize. Right now, it does not.
Now I've read Paul thurotts, xda, and a couple other suggestions posted in a previous thread, but had many issues. Issues being files not being updated properly meaning not showing up in the music app.So if i were to add more files to the music folder, it would not recognize in the music app. The music will stop if surface goes to sleep or I would see all my folders for music/videos/documents in the photo app.
So is there a simple procedure to get the files on my sdcard to work exactly like if i had it on internal drive? When I say simple, meaning an explanation on how to do this very specifically for somebody that knows nothing of tech terminology and such. I read there was some type of steps using junctions or some sort, i got through the beginning, but couldn't get it to work as it seems the steps implied that user knew what it means and it wasn't specific enough on what was being done for me to continue. I had stuck on the command screen as it didn't work.
- 01-28-2013, 01:48 PM #2
I think we're stuck with the solutions you already mentioned. I did Paul Thurott's suggestion and I've not been that happy with it. It recognized them, but new files won't show up. It's annoying. I think we need a fix from MS for it to be "simple." I hope that someone can prove me wrong, however.
01-28-2013, 06:52 PM #3
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I've used the method where you create a folder named "SD" on the C: drive (C:\SD). Then press Windows + X keys to open Disk Management. Locate your microSD card, right-click and select “Change Drive Letter and Paths”, click Add > Browse, and add empty NTFS folder Windows (C:)\SD to be mounted as the paths, and click OK button. Now you need to add the correct microSD-based folder to each library, such as add the location C:\SD\Music for the Music library, C:\SD\whatever for the Pictures and Videos libraries.
This method has worked flawlessly for me so far...
- 01-28-2013, 07:37 PM #4
The issue was if i change the location to the specific folder whether music, video, docs, etc, it would not recognize.
The only way to get to recognize and add new files and have the app update if i change the location to the general folder d:/SD. If the location went to d:/SD/music, problems. This is using the managing ribbon in libraries.
- 01-29-2013, 04:13 AM #5
The best way is create a VHD (Virtual Hard Disk) on the SD. You will have no issues creating or using libraries on a VHD... rock stable since launch with that solution.
- 01-29-2013, 11:32 AM #8
- 01-29-2013, 01:34 PM #10
There are detailed guides out there, but I can make one. I have a task set to mount the VHD every time the device boots. No issues whatsoever since launch with this setup and its transparent to Windows. The VHD actually behaves likes a NTFS drive.
- 01-30-2013, 12:11 PM #13
My understanding with the "SD" on the C: drive (C:\SD) method is that indexing doesn't work very well in this location for some reason. This is the reason your libraries don't update when you add new content.
Thought I read somewhere that by creating that directory in c:\users\username\SD instead worked as this location always gets indexed?
- 01-30-2013, 09:28 PM #14
If you guys go to Start - and type "index" - go to settings, and launch "Indexing Options", you'll see all the places that get indexed on your computer. Notice that "Users" is one of them. That may be why putting the SD in the profile folder helps. Make sure to add it to the library, make sure it's in the profile, and rebuild the index (Indexing Options - Advanced - Rebuild). See if that helps.
- 01-31-2013, 01:04 PM #16
Paul's a bright guy, but all of the less-intimidating steps listed on his site still fail to make the OS see the removable drive as a non-removable drive - which is the key to making it work correctly. Once RT sees the drive as non-removable, it treats it (and its contents) with all of the respect (indexing, adding to libraries) needed to make it work correctly. There's no other way that works besides the VHD method.
Last edited by msdugn; 01-31-2013 at 11:28 PM.
- 02-10-2013, 06:42 PM #20
I guess I can bump this thread too.
OK so i think i was able to get this VHD working and the one of the same issues with the other processes is that new files do not update.
I put one album in the folder and did the configuration and it worked and am able to see it in the music app. So I added one other album and it does not update. I had one movie in the VHD drive video folder and it recognized, added another, did not recognize.
So essentially, the problem that exist with the other ways of doing this still exist. Can anybody confirm that they can add new files to the folder without doing any setting updates and the music/video apps update with the new file real time?
I am assuming the configuration is some where in here:
- Set up automatic mounting on system startup.
- Win+W, type Schedule Tasks, enter.
- In the tree on the left side, click on "Task Scheduler Library".
- From the "Actions" pane, click on "Create Task"
- Put mount D:\disk.vhd (or anything you'd like) as the task name.
- Select "Run whether user is logged on or not"
- Check "Run with highest privileges"
- In Triggers tab, click on New, select "At startup" and press OK.
- In Actions tab, click on New. Select "Start a program" as Action. In program/script, put C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\powershell.exe. In add arguments, write exactly -command "mount-diskimage D:\disk.vhd".
- In Conditions tab, uncheck everything.
- Press OK
- Enter your Windows password and press OK.
- Restart the system and see if your new drive is visible after login
- Set up Windows Indexing.
- Win+W, type Indexing Options, enter
- Click on modify, check the new vhd drive (probably E).
- OK, Close.
The final link is pretty bad in terms of telling us what to do next. So i did manage library to each of the music, video, document, pictures folder i did. I changed the default to the vhd folder and added the folder to the libraries. Clearly it works since it recognizes the very initial music and video files.
Now im not sure what stops actually helps with the libraries recognizing new files such as my music and videos. Any suggestions?
FYI for people still doing this
"In Actions tab, click on New. Select "Start a program" as Action. In program/script, put C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\powershell.exe. In add arguments, write exactly -command "mount-diskimage D:\disk.vhd".
When it says write exactly, you shouldn't, you should not have the last period.
- 02-10-2013, 07:53 PM #21
The critical step is worded poorly. The Powershell command arguments you need to specifiy are exactly as listed below - including the double-quotes:
-command "mount-diskimage D:\disk.vhd"
Any error or typo in this parameter results in the drive not mouting and no error displaying anywhere (except in the Windos Event Log) to let you know it's wrong.
- 02-10-2013, 10:57 PM #22
02-11-2013, 09:45 AM #23
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Dear Lord... would Microsoft just do the right thing already and send a patch/update that makes and easy fix for this? I asked the Microsoft employe when i bought the device, specifically if I could use the SD card to access my media such as Music and Videos. The 'yes' was about 1% true and 99% a lie. Things like this need to be addressed now! Not in a summer update in July. Ridiculous.
02-11-2013, 10:05 AM #24
- 58 Posts
Thanks for this thread, can't wait to fix the indexing issue on my SD card, that's my biggest complaint about the surface is the lack of a tool from MS to make this easy for the consumer. This should be addressed by MS asap!! Thanks to all that figured this out and posted a guide.
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- 02-11-2013, 01:20 PM #25
Yes, going through the process is quite annoying. As simple as people make it out to be, it is not and the steps i used for the VHD leaves some steps out after that prevents this from working properly. Some of the details in the steps are not very clear and off, but those steps were were not very important in the whole thing, but for me, the instructions need to be very clear. When you say write exactly "blah blah blah". Then im going to put in the period as well, but the period is not needed. Then another is naming the task D:\disk.vhd, but you can't name it that since it doesn't accept "\" in the name. For idiots like me, those potentially could just through off everything. There are a few others taht were annoying, but you get the point.
So I think I was able to get it working properly finally, apparently you have to go to the task scheduler or one of the parts about mounting and rebuild under "user". I saw that mentioned in the thread so i tried it and it worked. Of course the reddit instructions dont have that and donnt really go into that fact you have to go to manage library for each specific folder to change default and such. There is just a link for windows 7 i think.
THis is why surface RT had no chance of being a good seller, out of the box, it isn't very good to use. I factory reset my surface this weekend and had about 15 gb with basically nothing. Ok i knew that, IE10 was soooooo slow so i had to reconfigure again using xda. Then had to go hours of updating and such. Some people want to plug and play, surface RT, plug, configure, configure, configure and play to make it reasonable and the average person wont go through the trouble.
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