- 06-27-2013, 08:29 AM #1
I was wondering if people who have installed the 8.1 preview could start a list of things that may make us want to wait for the final release. For example, I have multiple profiles and don't really want to install the preview if it means I have to re-setup from scratch and then do it again when the final release comes out. Somebody had mentioned the messaging app disappeared, and it appears at least two were bricked.
Obviously it is not the final release and some bugs and issues are to be expected. But I think a list of the major things would be helpful.
- 06-27-2013, 08:58 AM #2
It looks like Skype is being set up to replace the messaging app. I am very happy I did the upgrade and on the Surface RT you will be able to upgrade the preview to the final version. To me the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. The ability to add SD cards to your library was alone enough for me. It seems much quicker also on my Surface RT.
Note: I am a IT professional so items I fix and never think about may be dealbreakers for normal users.
- 06-27-2013, 09:56 AM #5
OK I did find the Microsoft FAQ, seems there is a lot of misinformation out there:
Windows 8.1 Preview FAQ - Microsoft Windows
My files, settings, and most apps are not affected according to that on RT. And a refresh will restore to 8.0. So I decided to go ahead and try it. I'm installing now.
I also had read that you needed 10 GB free, so I cleaned up a bunch of stuff. However I only managed to free up 9 and when it downloaded it was less than 3 GB. I see 10 is a requirement on the FAQ but nothing has stopped me yet. I am wondering how the heck I used up so much space in the first place, I don't have hardly anything on it other than Office and a handful of apps. Good thing I have a 64GB SD card I guess.
- 06-27-2013, 10:03 AM #7
Started with 10 but gained 2GBs after the install.
Some things to consider:
-Reinstalling all your apps for the official release
-Unforeseen bugs could crash your entire system
-Some apps don't work in 8.1 (according to Engadget)
-If this is your only computer
-Other people are dependent on the computer
-You're not tech savvy
06-27-2013, 10:30 AM #10
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Another thing to consider is the big fat warning on the FAQ page:-
- If you're currently using Windows RT, you won't be able to uninstall Windows RT 8.1 Preview. You'll be able to upgrade to the final edition of Windows RT 8.1 when it becomes available.
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- 06-27-2013, 10:38 AM #11
- 06-27-2013, 10:59 AM #12
Biggest plus for me is the ability to get the sdcard to recognize in the libraries. No more VHDs and other weird tweaks to get the music/video apps to recognize files. This alone outweights any draw backs for me.
I did the install yesterday, but dind't have much time to mess with it yet, so i brought to work to play around later at lunch. I had 11 gb of space when i did the install and it increased to 13 gb, so a 2gb increase after update. WIll need to go to disk management to see if i can delete any more, but it opened up quite a bit of storage.
Outlook RT is on here which is nice, i like it better than the mail app which wasn't improved. Improvements to the mail app wont come until the final release i think i read. So will use the outlook RT for the time being.
I had a bunch of apps ready to DL since i think the app list is saved somewhere, so i just pressed the arrow on the icon and it downloaded quickly. No more having to go to the store do download everything, much easier.
What i thought the preview had was the seamless background that covers both the metro start menu and the traditional desktop. Is that in preview or in the final release only?
I remember reading about the app list being pulled up from the button, i thought it was a swipe up, but really it is hitting the arrow. This doesnt matter, but confused me for about 15 seconds.
THe surface RT wasn't any much fastter to me in terms of apps opening or browsing, seems to be the same. So i dont think the preview addressed any of the sluggishness when opening apps and browsing.
06-27-2013, 11:34 AM #13
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- 06-27-2013, 01:29 PM #17
Well it's up now. Pretty painless operation, took over an hour. All apps and profiles are the same. Some settings like colors and wallpaper were reset but not a big deal.
Not a big change as far as speed, and some updates bring more complications I'll need to figure out later. Like how to save SkyDrive files to the SD card, setting SD contents to public libraries, organizing my favorites in IE11, etc. But overall a nice update, really what 8.0 should have been. IE is noticeably faster on web pages when you go back, which was an annoyance to me. Not on all pages though.
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06-27-2013, 07:35 PM #21
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- 06-28-2013, 08:34 AM #22
The new offline Skydrive is great but pretty limited unless I can figure out how to use the SD card for that.
Also I couldn't get Outlook to connect to my work Exchange account for some reason, and since it can't connect it errors out and never fully opens so I can get to the settings. May have to uninstall and reinstall.
The only useful large tile I have found is the weather, and really there's no reason the wide one couldn't have the same information. The others are just larger and don't provide any additional functionality. And the new small live tiles don't include names, which means a lot of my pinned IE favorites can't be small. And the start screen still does it's annoying auto-arrange thing where you can't always put tiles where you want.
Tying in the desktop and start screen wallpapers together really does make it a more cohesive experience flipping back and forth as the background stays static. Funny what a difference that detail makes.
I do seem to have some issues with IE with occasional page closures. Overall nothing show-stopping so far.
- 07-01-2013, 08:20 AM #23
BEWARE! I got an official answer to my previous question on Microsoft's website. Anyone who installs the Windows 8.1 preview and then installs the final 8.1 release WILL have to reinstall ALL apps. Store apps and desktop apps. I realize that this may not be a big deal for RT but for Windows 8 Pro this is a big deal. Especially if you have tons of desktop applications like me. I would do a dual boot to test 8.1 but the one limitation of the Surface Pro, the 128GB SSD, just doesn't allow me the room. I am squeezed for space now and use microSD and flash drives.
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