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    I thought this was a really good and balanced answer here on CNET: Should I ditch Android for Nokia's Lumia 1020? | Mobile - CNET News
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    Yes... Tried all the major OSs and Android is the worst by far!
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    All in all, it's a good article. She dwells on the lack of apps like so many but I think it's because she isn't as familiar with the 3rd party support for WP8 as she should.

    One area that she feels strongly about is the Nokia marketing strategy of exclusive models for each carrier. I think this will be the downfall of Nokia over the long haul.

    With today's announcements from all the carriers that the end user can now change phones every (insert your own time frame here), Nokia would be smart to make the 1020 available to all carriers.

    One thing technically I don't know the answer to is this: Is it possible to make a phone with the GSM and CDMA bands resident in the phone. This would open many of the newer devices from Nokia available to all carriers and more importantly, all users.
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    I'm not sexist but I often have bad feeling when I hear women talking about technology...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustToClarify View Post
    I'm not sexist but I often have bad feeling when I hear women talking about technology...
    I believe that's the very definition of sexism

    Sexism - noun
    1. attitudes or behavior based on traditional stereotypes of sexual roles.
    2. discrimination or devaluation based on a person's sex
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustToClarify View Post
    I'm not sexist but I often have bad feeling when I hear women talking about technology...
    Correction...you are sexist.
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    LOL You come to a WP forum and ask that....ask yourself, why do I want to leave Android? Not happy with updates, OS is boring, etc. Check for the apps you MUST have before you leave your current OS to prevent us from reading a WP sucks post later, going back to Android, etc... down the road.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rijkvanwel View Post
    I thought this was a really good and balanced answer here on CNET: Should I ditch Android for Nokia's Lumia 1020? | Mobile - CNET News
    With the number of words she had available, I would have expected a far more informative article with more analysis rather than just hearsay.

    Her criticisms of app availability and compatibility with Google's services were inadequate. While not entirely wrong, she's just repeating common 'wisdom', which I can get on the street. I expect more from 'journalists'. At least she should have been much more specific about exactly what she thinks is lacking. As it is now, her criticisms paint a false picture with brush strokes that are far too broad.
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    Ms. Reardon often provides balanced, if not always complete advice. The comments expressed by the CNET photographer imply that the 1020 does not offer a simple tap and shoot option, and that an accessory is required for a two-stage shutter button. This is not the case on the 920 and I assume it is not the case on the 1020. Also, she offers quotes from Nokia and AT&T to support the idea that the 1020 will only be on AT&T, then goes on to talk about Nokia's strategy of carrier exclusives yet she fails to point out that Verizon and T-Mobile might just end up with 1028 and 1025 variants just as they did for the 92X series. So yes, the 1020 could technically be an exclusive forever, but how do we know that the other carriers won't just see the same capabilities in a slightly different form?
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    Was the OP actually asking the question or just sharing an article?
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    The only reason you should switch from Android is if you want the camera, especially if your using a current generation device. My HTC One rarely if ever stutters, but I do have issues on my brother's Galaxy S4. This was remedied with a fresh install of a Google Edition ROM though. The camera is the main reason why i'm switching (and getting a Nexus 7 once its updated), but my family and friends wouldn't even think twice about getting a Windows Phone. Half of the time they use the front facing camera to post blurry portraits of themselves with friends on Facebook and the rest of their shots are Instagram pictures of food (seriously). They upload the picture to Facebook and use that as their "photo album", which just degrades the quality even further. I agree with katamari201, not many will appreciate how good the camera is. The ones that do are tech geeks or photographers, which are the minority. That's not even mentioning the app situation...i'm not just being ignorant, i've looked to see if the apps I use on my Android phone are there, and they aren't. Thats not stopping me from getting this phone though.
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    I've yet to find an app that I need so badly that I'd switch from Windows Phone to Android, iOS or BlackBerry. I don't need Instagram or Vine and my bank's mobile website works fine without an optimized app.
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    The only reason you should switch from Android is if you want the camera, especially if your using a current generation device.
    Did you check to see if there are alternatives to the apps you use? It sounds like you know what you're doing, but I just wanted to point out that going only by app name is quite ignorant. It's not the name, but the functionality people should be looking for in the app store. Corporate apps (like banking apps) are were WP still has most of its catching up to do.

    I completely disagree that the camera is the only reason to get a WP device. It is the only reason to get the L1020 over a L925 or a L928. That I would agree with.
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    I'm sure there are alternatives to the apps I use, but that takes a bit of time and effort to hunt down. Also the apps they do have are often of lower quality. What one person thinks is an absolute must have varies from person to person though. For me the biggest one is Mighty Text, if you know of an alternative to it i'd greatly appreciate you pointing me in the right direction. Mighty Text allows you to receive and send texts from your computer (mine is apple). It has an extension on Chrome also for notifications...highly useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a5cent View Post
    Did you check to see if there are alternatives to the apps you use? It sounds like you know what you're doing, but I just wanted to point out that going only by app name is quite ignorant. It's not the name, but the functionality people should be looking for in the app store. Corporate apps (like banking apps) are were WP still has most of its catching up to do.

    I completely disagree that the camera is the only reason to get a WP device. It is the only reason to get the L1020 over a L925 or a L928. That I would agree with.
    Well, this will be my first WP, so maybe i'll have a change of heart once I get my hands on it =). I'm not really sure if there will be alternatives to HBOGo and Minecraft, which I play with friends (so a knockoff wouldn't be a workaround). Dolphin Browser syncs with Chrome and allows me to send tabs to and from my devices (awesome). Google Play Music will have an iOS app soon, but for WP i'm sure i'll have to download my library of 3,500 songs to get them onto my device...
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    Quote Originally Posted by katamari201 View Post
    There's a reason why Android overtook iOS and is powering over 70% of the smartphones in the world.
    The reason is they give away their operating system. Android is not the dominant mobile OS for any other reason. Period.
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    What I like about WP is that it is still a "young" platform. Sure there are not as many apps as iOS and Android but iOS/Android have matured greatly already and took alot of time. . But it is developing and growing and I like being part of the that.

    Its not perfect by any means but then again what platform is perfect? Remember when the first iPhone came out? That movement was awesome. Then android joined and so on. I can almost see a similar situation playing out with Blackberry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katamari201 View Post
    Who knows. If you are already on Android, there's no compelling reason to come to WP. The only real selling point of the Lumia 1020 is the camera. If you can really appreciate the 41MP camera, which most people can't. Otherwise you will be saddled with an EXPENSIVE and chunky phone and all the problems associated with WP. There's a reason why Android overtook iOS and is powering over 70% of the smartphones in the world.
    Each platform has some compelling reasons to switch. If I wanted to switch from my current platform (Windows Phone) to another there is no shortage of reasons and vise versa. Just depends on who and what you're looking for in your smartphone experience.

    WP has problems (I know that) but so does every other platform out there. You're making it sound like WP is bad compared to Android.

    And wwhoever mentioned about android being almost given away has a point. Google makes NO money off android itself but rather off advertising and selling unanimous user info to advertisers.

    The amount of data they collect daily from a multitude of their services is astonishing and in some cases just makes me feel like they are stretching things a bit too far. I've all of a sudden stopped using Gmail because its just cluttered with ads and have gone with Outlook.com with a much cleaner, sleek, and well organized look and haven't looked back.
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    The photographer, Sarah, in this article that gave her opinion is a straight up retard. To change the settings is so easy and really like that on screen it shows you the difference of how the photos will look with different settings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snguyen10 View Post
    Well, this will be my first WP, so maybe i'll have a change of heart once I get my hands on it =). I'm not really sure if there will be alternatives to HBOGo and Minecraft, which I play with friends (so a knockoff wouldn't be a workaround). Dolphin Browser syncs with Chrome and allows me to send tabs to and from my devices (awesome). Google Play Music will have an iOS app soon, but for WP i'm sure i'll have to download my library of 3,500 songs to get them onto my device...
    Well, the issue with Google's ecosystem (music library etc.) is different from the app question. Definitely. Google has basically declared war on WP, so a lot of Google's ecosystem will remain closed to WP. Most people here prefer Microsoft's ecosystem though. Switching in the opposite direction would lead to similar problems.

    I found HBO Go on my first search in the app store, but maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are looking for.

    MightyText wont come to WP anytime soon. You won't find any alternative either, because WP doesn't allow apps to search through users text messages. That is a security precaution and that is unlikely to change. The only way we'll ever get something like that is if Microsoft decides to integrate such a feature themselves, which I've heard might actually be in the cards, but at this point it's just rumours.

    WP8.1 will offer the same synching capabilities but with IE11 instead of with Chrome. Unfortunately, we'll still have to wait another six months for that. There are quite a few features like that which WP8 still lacks. There is no denying it. However, the foundation that Microsoft has set down so far is better than the competition's. If they can add to that without detracting from the currently clean, organised and fast presentation, they will have a winner on their hands.
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    Hm. I searched apps using the website version (on chrome) and was not finding HBO Go, if its there thats fantastic. That's unfortunate about MightyText, its incredibly convenient to be able to answer texts from your laptop. My big issue is i'll have a Macbook Air, Nexus 7, and Lumia 1020. It's going to be terribly difficult to keep these devices synced up together. Its a shame that Google doesn't have all their services on WP, like they do on iOS. I do love most operating systems for both their pros and cons, which puts me in a dilemma. I don't want to give any of them up =P.
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    ^ Yes, it is a shame. A casualty of corporate "warfare".

    The way you use operating systems is how we should be able to use them. However, I fear that will become ever more difficult going forward. I never liked Apple's products, so I never had that problem. I was once a huge supporter of Google, but that has changed in the last few years (for reasons I won't bore you with), so now I'm almost completely Google free. MetroTube (a great youtube client) and Google search are the only two Google services I still use from my WP device.

    Anyway, I really hope you enjoy your L1020! I know I would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snguyen10 View Post
    Hm. I searched apps using the website version (on chrome) and was not finding HBO Go, if its there thats fantastic. That's unfortunate about MightyText, its incredibly convenient to be able to answer texts from your laptop. My big issue is i'll have a Macbook Air, Nexus 7, and Lumia 1020. It's going to be terribly difficult to keep these devices synced up together. Its a shame that Google doesn't have all their services on WP, like they do on iOS. I do love most operating systems for both their pros and cons, which puts me in a dilemma. I don't want to give any of them up =P.
    Should be fine using SkyDrive to sync. They actually support all those device platforms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katamari201 View Post
    Who knows. If you are already on Android, there's no compelling reason to come to WP. The only real selling point of the Lumia 1020 is the camera. If you can really appreciate the 41MP camera, which most people can't. Otherwise you will be saddled with an EXPENSIVE and chunky phone and all the problems associated with WP. There's a reason why Android overtook iOS and is powering over 70% of the smartphones in the world.
    100% disagree. I switched from Android after two years, and I can list several reasons why I switched to the 920 over a Galaxy S III:

    1. Camera quality: The Galaxy S III is pitiful in low-light, and I like that Windows Phone devices have dedicated camera buttons. Though I'm not big on pictures, the camera experience on Windows Phone is better than on Android.
    2. Music: The built-in music player on Android (my HTC Droid Incredible) was horrid, and had a tendency to crash when switching artists.
    3. Storage: Though there is no microSD slot in the 920, the 32 GB of built-in storage was a big selling point for me. Not having to buy additional memory to get by is nice.
    4. Wireless Charging: It's extremely convenient for me, as I have the plate on my desktop case next to my bed, so I come home, set the phone down, and it charges. I'm anti-wireless stuff, so I have wires for my mouse, keyboard, external HDD, charger(s), Xbox 360 Play & Charge, and 2 Xbox 360 controllers I use for emulators on the PC. Having the wireless charger prevents losing the charging cable amongst my other wires, preventing the annoying untangling and fumbling about.
    5. Price: $50 (and a free wireless charger, which was $50 itself) for the 920 for $200 for the Galaxy S III (at the time)? There was no comparison.
    6. UI: This is a personal preference issue, but if you love the UI on WP (compared to the static grids on iOS and Android), it's a reason to switch.
    7. Games hub: Not having to look for my games through several app pages or an app drawer grid of icons with my other apps is nice, since most of what I do on my phone is play games. That dedicated section is nice.
    8. Xbox gaming: I'm a little bit of an Achievement *****, and those Xbox LIVE Achievements add some replay value to my games.

    Anyway, point being, it's a stretch to say what you did. There are more than just those 8 main points to support my decision, but we all have preferences. There are quite a few decent features Windows Phone offers for folks over Android, in my opinion, and those are 8 that mattered for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wallace View Post
    100% disagree. I switched from Android after two years, and I can list several reasons why I switched to the 920 over a Galaxy S III:

    1. Camera quality: The Galaxy S III is pitiful in low-light, and I like that Windows Phone devices have dedicated camera buttons. Though I'm not big on pictures, the camera experience on Windows Phone is better than on Android.
    2. Music: The built-in music player on Android (my HTC Droid Incredible) was horrid, and had a tendency to crash when switching artists.
    3. Storage: Though there is no microSD slot in the 920, the 32 GB of built-in storage was a big selling point for me. Not having to buy additional memory to get by is nice.
    4. Wireless Charging: It's extremely convenient for me, as I have the plate on my desktop case next to my bed, so I come home, set the phone down, and it charges. I'm anti-wireless stuff, so I have wires for my mouse, keyboard, external HDD, charger(s), Xbox 360 Play & Charge, and 2 Xbox 360 controllers I use for emulators on the PC. Having the wireless charger prevents losing the charging cable amongst my other wires, preventing the annoying untangling and fumbling about.
    5. Price: $50 (and a free wireless charger, which was $50 itself) for the 920 for $200 for the Galaxy S III (at the time)? There was no comparison.
    6. UI: This is a personal preference issue, but if you love the UI on WP (compared to the static grids on iOS and Android), it's a reason to switch.
    7. Games hub: Not having to look for my games through several app pages or an app drawer grid of icons with my other apps is nice, since most of what I do on my phone is play games. That dedicated section is nice.
    8. Xbox gaming: I'm a little bit of an Achievement *****, and those Xbox LIVE Achievements add some replay value to my games.

    Anyway, point being, it's a stretch to say what you did. There are more than just those 8 main points to support my decision, but we all have preferences. There are quite a few decent features Windows Phone offers for folks over Android, in my opinion, and those are 8 that mattered for me.
    I think at this point i'm more nitpicking between the three mobile operating systems. They all do what I want them to do, just in a different way.
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