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    Negri Electronics seems to have an 'unlocked' 1020 for AT&T -- Search results for: 'nokia 1020'

    Would this even be possible? I'm assuming anything made with the AT&T brand will be AT&T locked. The Microsoft store does not seem to have unlocked versions off-contract.
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    I'm wondering the same thing. I'd totally get this for T-Mobile...
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    Expansys usa also has them. I'm torn between getting one of these or the 925 :-S
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    Would it work in Canada if I buy it from Negri Electronics ?
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    I talked to Negri Electronics support and they said it will work on any GSM network
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    I would wait and see if a Rogers version is announced, that will have the proper bands if you want to use it in the US and will support Tmo and Att fully.
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    I can't wait too long, my 920 is broken. So I just ordered the 925 from Expansys Canada
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    I'm worried that it might not be unlocked if it's the AT&T model. I also wonder if AT&T will give me the unlock code if I buy it off-contract. Need it unlocked because I'll be traveling.

    Edit: I chatted with an agent who said AT&T will be able to provide unlock codes, but I'm not 100% sure of that info as well.
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    In the specs, it shows:

    2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
    3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
    4G Network LTE 700 / 1700 / 2100

    I'm not seeing 1700 under HSDPA, making me think that if you're in a T-Mobile area that hasn't yet been refarmed, you're going to be stuck with 2G
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glavata View Post
    Negri Electronics seems to have an 'unlocked' 1020 for AT&T -- Search results for: 'nokia 1020'

    Would this even be possible? I'm assuming anything made with the AT&T brand will be AT&T locked. The Microsoft store does not seem to have unlocked versions off-contract.
    It could be an import. In most places around the world, you buy the phone and carriers just provide service, so the concept of a locked phone is unknown. India, for example, is one of Nokia's major markets and I'm sure they'll be making unlocked units for that kind of market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drbanks View Post
    In the specs, it shows:

    2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
    3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
    4G Network LTE 700 / 1700 / 2100

    I'm not seeing 1700 under HSDPA, making me think that if you're in a T-Mobile area that hasn't yet been refarmed, you're going to be stuck with 2G
    You're correct. At the moment we're not expecting this unit to support T-mobile bands, due to the fact that it doesn't support T-mobile 3G/4G bands. If any of you have any other questions, let us know. You can also reach us at support@negrielectronics.com for more detailed questions you may have.
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    I guess the question I would ask is, are you even expecting a Rogers version of the 1020?
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    Quote Originally Posted by theefman View Post
    I guess the question I would ask is, are you even expecting a Rogers version of the 1020?
    Rogers sucks at supporting Nokia, I doubt it, they don't even have 925 or 928. I went to the store today and they didn't have the 920 in stock either. More over, most employees at futureshop/best buy don't even know much about lumias
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Bhullar View Post
    Rogers sucks at supporting Nokia, I doubt it, they don't even have 925 or 928. I went to the store today and they didn't have the 920 in stock either. More over, most employees at futureshop/best buy don't even know much about lumias
    Unfortunately a Rogers version is the only one that fully supports T-Mobile"s bands s, is more easily unlocked so its the best option for some. And they don't need to carry the 925 if they will have the 1020, 928 is a Verizon exclusive so not carrying those devices is not really that important.
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    I've pre-ordered from Negri Electronics too, expecting it to work for SingTel's 3G (Singapore).
    Will update you once I've received the device.
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    Does anyone know the release date for the 1020 ? If it's sometime during the next week I will exchange my 925 that I just ordered from expansys.com for a 1020. They have a 15 day return/exchange policy. Rumors say it will be 22 july or 26. The sooner I know it the better it is because I can then cancel my order for the 925 because they havent shipped it yet.
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    There aren't any rumors for the release date, there is an official release date of July 26th though =).
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    Quote Originally Posted by snguyen10 View Post
    There aren't any rumors for the release date, there is an official release date of July 26th though =).
    Could you give me the link ? I can't find the release date anywhere.
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    The T Mo message boards are saying it will work if you live in one of their LTE areas, because they have 1700/2100 on 4G LTE and "refarmed" 1900 on the 3G/4G band.

    I'm really confused. I want the phone but don't want to come out of pocket $700+ and be SOL.
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    Try asking in the 920 forum for peoples experience with an att 920 in your area, the 1020 should perform the same and give you an idea if its worth it.
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    I ordered through Negri and a flash message popped up stating the order would ship "around July 30"

    I am also a T-Mobile customer living in Los Angeles, so looking forward to seeing if the thing will hook onto an LTE signal.

    Can't wait!

    Anyone know where online I can buy the camera grip? Between AT&T, MS Store, BestBuy and Negri of course, I can't seem to find a live link for preordering..
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    Could anyone shed some light on this? If I were to purchase an unlocked 1020 and use it on Tmobile, will I have the "wifi calling" feature? TIA
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaytee0401 View Post
    Could anyone shed some light on this? If I were to purchase an unlocked 1020 and use it on Tmobile, will I have the "wifi calling" feature? TIA
    I don't know for absolute sure, but I would be very surprised if wifi calling was available as I'm pretty certain that it requires fairly deep integration with the firmware and thus would need to be t-mobile specific code. At least, that's been the case in the past...it's possible that microsoft has been able to abstract the integration via it's VOIP API hooks so that it would only need to be an app (similar to Skype's integration). But I wouldn't hold my breath on that :p
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasLabRat View Post
    I don't know for absolute sure, but I would be very surprised if wifi calling was available as I'm pretty certain that it requires fairly deep integration with the firmware and thus would need to be t-mobile specific code. At least, that's been the case in the past...it's possible that microsoft has been able to abstract the integration via it's VOIP API hooks so that it would only need to be an app (similar to Skype's integration). But I wouldn't hold my breath on that :p
    Thanks for your answer. I actually got off the phone with T-Mo sales and he said the wifi calling feature would work. I asked him how exactly and he wasn't sure. So, I guess it's 50/50 chance. Maybe someone here can shed some light if they're planning to get the unlocked Lumia 1020 for their T-Mobile plan...please chime in! Thanks.
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    I am hoping since AT&T will be shipping tomorrow, that maybe Negri will ship a bit ahead of their 7/30 schedule.. Fingers crossed..
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