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    The pics are from here

    Nokia Lumia 1020 comparison - a set on Flickr

    Just one thing to note, which everyone misses because its not obvious, is the fact that the 808 shoots at 85% jpeg processing on auto.. the 1020 shoots at 95%

    That is why there is a difference in file sizes, 808's are around 1mb and the 1020s are over 2mb.

    If you want to get max IQ from the 808 you need to go into manual mode and set the jpeg to superfine, which is 95% ..
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    They seem to have about the same quality IMO
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    same quality, different style, color and sharpness is the difference.

    I strong think they should add these two options as sliders in the pro cam. adding natural and punchy and sharpness or less noise will make a great package and will definitely overpass 808.

    some one need to tweet the developers.
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    You mean two modes .. that might be an interesting option :)

    The could also just add the saturation/sharpness/contrast scales from the 808 to the 1020... they are -5 to +5 and very useful overall..

    Anyway, the difference in auto modes is very tiny.. both phones produce far better IQ than anything else on the market :)
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    The reviews I read on engadget and Verge today both said they found the quality of the photos on the 1020 to be noticeably better than the 808./
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    Quote Originally Posted by slick5150 View Post
    The reviews I read on engadget and Verge today both said they found the quality of the photos on the 1020 to be noticeably better than the 808./
    I don't want to sound harsh, but they don't know what they are talking about...

    Wait for GSMarena and DPreview if you want real comps
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    On that Flickr site, how can you tell which camera took which picture?
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    Quote Originally Posted by B T C View Post
    On that Flickr site, how can you tell which camera took which picture?
    You could click view exif or just click view all sizes, then click the highest res, and then save to your pc

    I just go by name..the 808 photos are numbers only, and the 1020 are numbers with _smart at the end
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    Quote Originally Posted by vlad0 View Post
    You could click view exif or just click view all sizes, then click the highest res, and then save to your pc

    I just go by name..the 808 photos are numbers only, and the 1020 are numbers with _smart at the end
    Thanks. I just noticed that below the pictures there is some additonal info, including camera info. I'm obviously not Flickr savvy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vlad0 View Post
    I don't want to sound harsh, but they don't know what they are talking about...

    Wait for GSMarena and DPreview if you want real comps
    You asked for it:
    Nokia&#39;s 41MP Lumia 1020 looks impressive: Connect
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    Quote Originally Posted by ejb222 View Post
    Some of those photos look impressive, but I'm not a camera geek. I'm also getting old and can't see that well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ejb222 View Post
    hah, that review was written by this girl

    https://www.facebook.com/erinlodi

    I also don't want to sound harsh but I don't think she knows much about photography..especially looking at her profile pic (she looks nice though)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustToClarify View Post
    hah, that review was written by this girl

    https://www.facebook.com/erinlodi

    I also don't want to sound harsh but I don't think she knows much about photography..especially looking at her profile pic (she looks nice though)
    If I had a 1020, I would take pics of me & her doing stuff and post them to the internet. The pics would be awesome, full of detail, and the colors would be accurate.
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    She also is a professional photographer and works as the mobile imaging editor for DPreview, so wouldn't say she knows nothing about photography :)
    http://erinlodiphotography.com/

    If you do a search on her name, there's a lot more stuff about who she is.

    Sorry been a lurker for the past few days, so first post here. Been interested in the 1020 so reading everything about it and looked for some forums and found this one. Interesting discussions going on. I currently own a Galaxy S4 and am possibly changing up. I had an HTC One prior to that, which fell into the ocean on vacation. Mobile insurance replaced it with a GS4 due to the One being back ordered.

    I frequent DPreview often since I like their detail in their gear reviews (read the same thing at DPreview, which does rank the S4 as #2 to the 808) and think they do know their tech and have a decent methodology for testing. The Preview that was posted seems to only be a small part of their full review and that should be much much more detailed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustToClarify View Post
    hah, that review was written by this girl

    https://www.facebook.com/erinlodi

    I also don't want to sound harsh but I don't think she knows much about photography..especially looking at her profile pic (she looks nice though)
    Really starting to sound sexist now... =P.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snguyen10 View Post
    Really starting to sound sexist now... =P.
    I think we've quite clearly established that by now. However, I do wonder how he does that magic trick, where he is able to judge a woman's photography skills by her looks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a5cent View Post
    I think we've quite clearly established that by now. However, I do wonder how he does that magic trick, where he is able to judge a woman's photography skills by her looks.
    I think he just means that her Profile Picture doesn't has a high quality.
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    Damn, those pictures look fantastic. Just a little fine tuning with the noise and it's perfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deutscher2 View Post
    I think he just means that her Profile Picture doesn't has a high quality.
    exactly, she looks nice and while there are very good women photographers out there I don't think she is the one(not judging only by that one pic)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustToClarify View Post
    exactly, she looks nice and while there are very good women photographers out there I don't think she is the one(not judging only by that one pic)
    Well she does get her work published in magazines and gets paid for weddings, so some people I guess would like her enough to pay for her work :)

    Regardless, If you look at the reviews at connect.dpreview.com, they are pretty detailed and their results do make sense. In the 1020 preview, she does point out both the camera' virtues and some of its pitfalls. One of which, no other review else seemed to notice was the lens flaring in this and the 808, probably due to the larger lens structure and no hood, but it does happen, which will have to be a consideration, at least for me. This would be my backup camera for my smaller M4/3 kit and the one I always have with me. Currently the S4 can do it ok, but it doesn't have the easy manual controls as the 1020 and it is a little too aggressive on the NR, which I cannot adjust. I'm also a fan of the larger sensor size and would like the quality to be top notch. I don't mind the grain since I prefer details, and my workflow always puts all my photos through lightroom anyways, which has a good NR filter, probably better than camera on board NR can handle. Details are important though.

    I would consider the 808 as well, but this would also be my phone, and there just aren't the apps I use on symbian, so that is a non starter for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stil_1 View Post
    I would consider the 808 as well, but this would also be my phone, and there just aren't the apps I use on symbian, so that is a non starter for me.
    the choice is easy for you then
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustToClarify View Post
    the choice is easy for you then
    Hopefully. Will see more samples and reviews I'm guessing. So far it does look like they are all positive, but I'll probably want to wait for one of the more respected photography review sites to get their full review in though. Most interested in comparison. Only thing I saw in another thread that would put a slight damper is the inability to open to default camera pro app w/o entering a passcode when set.

    I remember for the MS camera app, you could open the camera app from lockscreen and it would pop straight into the camera app to do a quick photo. It seems, because the Pro camera app is 3rd party, when you hold the camera button from lockscreen, it will make you enter your passcode before it lets you go into the app. I have to have a passcode since I will be using it for corporate email.

    There has been talk of getting around this through kids corner and setting the camera pro app through there to get into the camera quickly. Can anyone with a 920 or so verify you can add a 3rd party camera app to kids corner? I think Smart cam would be treated the same as pro cam in this regard.
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    I'd suggest better look at samples from flickr etc. than reviewers, because some of them have very very strange criteria :D

    1020 will be the best cameraphone (at least among "ordinary" phones) for a long time, be sure of that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustToClarify View Post
    I'd suggest better look at samples from flickr etc. than reviewers, because some of them have very very strange criteria :D

    1020 will be the best cameraphone (at least among "ordinary" phones) for a long time, be sure of that...
    Very true! That's why I don't really read them for the conclusion and score since we have no idea what criteria they use. Mostly just see them for detailed explanations and and controlled environment samples for me to gauge by my own eyes.

    I'll definitely be looking at the samples posted in photo sharing sites as well.
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