- 10-26-2011, 10:47 AM #1
4.3" Super HD AMOLED screen
1280 x 720 resolution
10mp camera w/ dual flash, 3mp ff camera
1.5GHz dual core processor (no, WP doesn't need it, but it would be nice)
1900 mah battery
1GB+ of RAM
Similar form factors as the 800
All Nokia apps
Anything else you guys would like to add to this list?
- 10-26-2011, 11:32 AM #2
All sounds very nice and completely doable with the exception of the screen resolution. I'm afraid we're stuck with 800x480 due to Microsoft's restrictions. :( Hopefully they'll be changing that in the not too distant future.
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- 10-26-2011, 11:47 AM #4
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- 10-26-2011, 02:13 PM #6
Here's the thing, I find myself wanting bigger specs for the sole reason of having bigger specs, mostly to brag about to my iOS/Android friends. I know for a fact that WP doesn't in any way need dual core or that amount of RAM. It's just being able to advertise specs like that would maybe prove to be effective.
- 10-26-2011, 02:31 PM #7
I don't see the point when it doesn't drastically improve anything. Android NEEDS that to look as fluid as it's competitors. iOS/WP7 have proven you don't need Texas Instrument Omac Quad Core processors to have a phone that works
- 10-26-2011, 04:46 PM #8
This would be absolutely fine to me:
4.0"+ (up to 4.3") SAMOLED+ or SLCD screen
800 x 480 resolution
8mp auto focus QUALITY camera w/ dual flash
1.3mp ff camera
1.5GHz single core processor
1800 mah battery
1GB of RAM
32GB of internal storage OR expandable external storage
Similar form factors as the 800
All Nokia (or analogous) apps
This is COMPLETELY DOABLE with the current chassis 1 requirements/restrictions. I just don't get why no one will make one and claim the HIGH END of the WP7 market for themselves!! I REALLY thought that Nokia had the "Ace" up their sleeves but it appears that it's not ready for prime time yet.
- 10-26-2011, 08:40 PM #11
Is it just me or is anyone else totally unimpressed about the Nokia offerings. The lumia 800 sucks compared to the n9. I think it was Engadget article showing the difference and the n9 has a bigger screen, ff camera, and better pretty much everywhere else. I was really wanting a Nokia phone but now I am thinking I'll hold off. Although it's not like it would come to Verizon. I hope the "Ace" does come out. I'm not asking for a lot I just want a 4" or bigger screen with a ff camera. Oh well it's not like Verizon will get anything new. I'm so close to leaving Verizon
- 10-26-2011, 08:57 PM #12
This Engadget article?
Keep in mind that the N9 only has a larger screen because it has no buttons. That area of the screen (and the extra 54 vertical pixels) are where the required back/start/search buttons reside on the Lumia 800 (I assume they're real capacitive buttons under the glass and not soft buttons on part of the LCD, since that would require an OS modification). But yes, the Lumia lost RAM, the FF camera, NFC, storage (SD card slot, I assume), and 5GHz wifi.
10-26-2011, 08:59 PM #13
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Take an E7, bump up the RAM, screen resolution, and give me a tiered storage package (my Zune 120 is FULL, I'd like more than 16GB of storage please!)
Make that phone and I will stand outside a different mall everyday for a week shillling for the phone for free.
- 10-26-2011, 11:28 PM #15
I think the 800 looks really good. A bigger screen and I think I'd sell a kidney for it. All I want is the 800 with a 4.3" (maybe bigger) display, and maybe a bigger battery. I watched a few previews and now I get sad looking at my 3GS.
EDIT: Oh and NFC.
- 10-27-2011, 12:42 AM #16
A 4.3 inch display sounds golden really, but I am perfectly content with the 800's screen size as is, the phone overall is an ideal size in my opinion.
A bigger battery I am always down for, as long as it doesn't mean bulking up the phone.
- 10-27-2011, 01:07 AM #17
I know it's not really a must have but it's a cool look at what NFC can be used for. Tap your phone on a speaker and it plays. If there are 2 speakers, it plays in stereo.
In the future you could use it to start a wireless sync with your computer, transfer files or contacts or things of interest to other phones (like passing a note) or as you said, to replace your wallet, bus pass, door key (I'd personally skip that one but it is currently an option), pair things wirelessly more easily, etc.
NFC isn't really a ground-breaking new feature, it's something that sits there and makes things a little easier every now and then, and that's always welcome.
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- 10-27-2011, 01:20 AM #19
****, even device to device transferring is nothing new, the old Zune 80's and 120's could do that back in 2007. And as for the whole door key or buss pass or anything of that nature, I would not use it for that. Having your phone be a payment device would just make them that much more interesting to thieves, and I don't want my finances to be that vulnerable.
- 10-27-2011, 01:28 AM #20
Like I said, it's not there to reinvent the way you do things, it's just a way to make things a little easier every now and then.
10-31-2011, 09:35 PM #22
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MS needs to take the hint on the expandable memory thing. I had more memory capacity on my old e71 than I do on my Quantum. That's just sad.
I don't need some crazy processor, or enough RAM to back bone an FPS LAN party. I really don't care about ff cameras, and I will never trust or want to have anything to do with a "digital wallet." More screen res is always nice, but 480X800 is fine in my book, it's much more important that it's done right - eg. Super AMOLEAD, Gorilla Glass, Polariser, etc..
As for a 1900MaH battery, sure, but I don't think you're gonna get it out of anything other than Li-Poly (or a needlessly thicker phone). Frankly, I don't like the idea of holding Li-Poly batteries that close to my head. What I would be much more interested in seeing is Nokia bringing to market LiFePO4 chemistry batteries like those being used in the cordless power tool industry these days (eg A-123 systems, etc.). The energy density is less, but you can SAFELY rapid charge the living H*!! out of them. They also have much less degradation of capacity over time and are less susceptible to parasitic loss. They would also hold up better (and remain physically cooler) under the strains of higher amperage drain rates you find in all this streaming and multi-tasking we're doing (or in running a WiFi hotspot once somebody hacks that for that matter ;-b )
Still, more important to me (and notably lacking from Nokia's N8, E7, N9, and Lumia) is user swappable batteries. Oh sure, I know it's a quick mini-screwdriver away with these devices unlike Apple's sealed, glued and soldered approach, but what I mean is, "hey, my battery's getting low, I'll pull another one out of my bag and swap it out. Problem solved!" I don't work in an office. I like to have multiple batteries and stand-alone chargers for them. I keep a spare brick in my car, my bag, and on the charger at home. This way, I'm never that dude running around trying to micro-charge my phone in 5 min increments just to keep it going. The reality of modern smart phones is that their capabilities are such that a friggin 4000 mAh battery could be drained in a couple hrs of heavy use. Why mfg.s are moving to sealed battery compartments both bewilders and angers me.
10-31-2011, 10:15 PM #23
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Even more than the above physical stuff though, I'd like to see Nokia bring some of the software & GUI stuff that made Symbian great over to WP7. Notably:
1. Phone profiles. Pre-Set and customizable phone configuration states that allow user to quickly put phone into settings including Ring tone, ring volume, alert tone, alert volume, key input volume on/off, haptic feedback on/off, vibrate on/off, screen flashing during call or incoming msg on/off , WiFi on/off, bluetooth on/off, 3G/4G on/off, roaming on/off, etc.
2. Custom Alert tones
3. Ability to set volume for ring, alerts, music playback, speakerphone, and talk volume INDEPENDENTLY of one another
4. Ability to rename the shortcuts to apps in the secondary menu.
5. A setting to make the top bar (battery life, signal strength, BT, WiFi, time, etc. ALWAYS VIEWABLE!
I know, I know it's a crazy concept to expect my phone to do things that a circa 1999 Nokia 8210 could do, but I do still use these things as phones you know?
6. What Nokia calls "Unified MMS/SMS editor plus conversational view for SMS" on their specs for N8/E7. Basically the ability to see SMS/MMS in the classic single msg/folders view as well as conversational view. Single msg is much more useful for fwd'ing msg's, and for searching for a msg from one of a group of people that you know came at a certain time, but aren't sure of sender. I like and mostly use conversational view just as I did on my symbian phone through the iSMS app, but having the ability to see and use via folders incoming, sent, draft, failed, and outbox is useful. I miss having it.
7. Same goes for call history. I like the WP7.5 unified call history, but I miss having the ability to see outgoing, incoming, and missed calls independent of one another - it is easier and faster to call back missed calls this way.
8. Haptic feedback at startup. Nice when you have to reset a phone while driving or doing something else.
9. Bluetooth - ability to nick name devices. Pretty helpful when you have more than one. Esp. when you have more than one of same. For example, I have two jawbones. They both read as "jawbone." Great, so which one is which? Am I connected to the fresh one or the dead battery one?
10. Physical Keyboard specific gripes:
- Start searching phone book as soon as I type a letter on physical keyboard
- Dbl click on CAPS or fn to lock on.
- Pressing down or up takes you to beginning of the line when at top or bottom of page
11. A better browser. One with actual back and fwd buttons, and a home page, and maybe a customizable splash page. You know, something like a real browser. Also, the ability to set whether I prefer to view mobile or full web pages. Basically I want my Opera Mobile back...
12. Ability to actually close apps. I don't give a hoot how efficient the save state thing is. I don't want to hold down back key to bring up apps then scroll through a bunch of apps I'm not using that should just be closed.
13. Lastly, FOLDERS AND REAL MULTI-TASKING! Are you kidding me MS? Didn't you people more or less invent folders based GUI? WTF?
The last three are MS things and it's unrealistic to think a Nokia sub-build can change them, but I really hope the other stuff is done.
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- 11-01-2011, 05:52 AM #24
The reason people want their phones over specced is to future proof their phones for 2 years. I don't want a phone that I just spent $199-$399 on contract (forget off contract) to run out of steam at 18 mos. In fact, I would like it to last longer than 2 years if possible. To do that I want LTE (Verizon and soon ATT), lots of memory (32GB min, 64 GB would be better) - especially since WP7 is NOT expandable. While I know WP7 runs smooth if the OS is properly optimized dual core can save batteries and it always speeds up Web Browsing. Personally, looking at the Retina Display on the iPhone and the new Super Amoled Advance qHD on the Moto RAZR it is hard to look at WVGA on the WP7.
JMHO and YMMMV
11-01-2011, 11:23 AM #25
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Here is the deal: Everytime you exit an app in WP7, it's indeed closed. Only the background agent associated with that app is running, if any. That's why you don't need to close app manually. The pseudo-multitasking view is more like the last-opened apps view on iPhone.
So again, 12 and 13 are actually combined.