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    All right. While the setting is in the Settings of my 810, when I tap "Turn on" it gives me a message that Internet isn't currently available.

    It certainly works on my fiance's HD7 and I can even see my device and the pass code as it attempts to cycle on. So, has anyone gotten this to work on their device?
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    Odd. Same error here. I really hope T-Mobile didn't block tethering for people without tethering plans (although, it makes sense for them, haha :P). I'm not sure if the internet sharing option can "talk" to the sim and see the plan or not though. A call to T-Mobile tech support maybe? I might do that later and see if they can give me a definitive answer.

    Edit: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC...__WiFi_Sharing
    To use Tethering or Smartphone Mobile HotSpot (Wi-Fi Sharing), your rate plan must include the Smartphone Mobile HotSpot add-on feature.
    Well, that sucks. I guess if I really need to tether, I'll have to use a microsim-to-sim adapter alongside my old Android phone :(
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    I also have the 810 and tried the Internet Sharing option and I received the "need to have certain plan to share" message. For over a year, I was able to Internet Share with my HD7 and no be charged. I guess it's a different story with all the new WP8 devices.

    However, I still 2nd line that uses the HD7 phone and I can still internet share at no cost.
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    I guess they decided they could use that extra bit of revenue. The mobile hotspot feature is 10 bucks a month. I'll get it if I really need it. Right now it comes in handy for my fiance's Surface, but the HD7 is hers, so no issues there. I was looking at it for when the Surface Pro hits. Guess I got time to decide.
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    That sucks, I've always been able to tether with my 710, without paying gimmicky fees.
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    I believe this is definately a T-mobile thing, as my wifes GS3 gets the same error when I turn tethering on.
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    T-Mobile quietly changed all of that, now you have to pay for tethering ...but if you get the unlimited, no throttling add-on, you can't get the tethering add-on at all.
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    Internet Sharing has been completely ruined on Windows Phones. It is essentially carrier bloatware on your phone because it has no use for anyone who doens't have an unbranded phone.
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    Just picked up my 810 today and I can confirm that the Internet Sharing/WiFi Tethering works. I have the 5GB data plan which includes that function.
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    xda will likely have a fix for this in a few weeks
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    Quote Originally Posted by tofu. View Post
    xda will likely have a fix for this in a few weeks
    I would be VERY interested in knowing if they can actually pull this off. The new shared kernel is supposed to be very locked down and supposedly they blocked a method they were using to be able to flash ROMS over. I wonder how long it will take to crack it? :)
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    hi,

    I recently got a T-Mobile Lumia 810 with the 2GB plan which does not include tethering. I was about to return it and get an android phone as having tethering is a make or break feature for me and I refuse to pay 15$ for it when I can enable it on any android with ease.

    I know that Nokia has an app called "Access Point" which enables editing and addition of APNs but if you search store via your tmobile lumia 810 that app wont show up. I was able to sideload it tho by going to the Microsoft Windows Phone Store on the web on my pc and clicking on the 'manual download and install' which lets you save the app to your pc. I then copied the app to an SD card and inserted the SD card to my Lumia 810. You then goto Store on your phone, and choose SD card (it takes a few minutes for the app to register the SD card if u just plugged it in, at least it did for me) the downloade app will show up under 'Compatible Apps', I installed it from there and what happened was this: In the 'Settings', at the bottom, a new 'Access Point' appeared which let me choose Tmobile APN and set it. After I did that when I went to 'Internet Sharing' I was able to turn it out and setup my wifi hotspot and connect my PC and android phone to the Lumia 810's Internet!

    What I do not know is if Tmobile will notice that im tethering and then charge me for the feature heh. Ill be sure to find out I guess.

    Can also use this QR code to install the Access Point app from Nokia:

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	nokia accesspoint app.png 
Views:	304 
Size:	599 Bytes 
ID:	26137

    to scan it use the Search on the phone, click Vision icon and focus the code, a web url link should appear, click on it to install Nokia's Access Point.

    Let me know how it goes for all!
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    Also this Access Point app will let you add other network's APNs if you happen to be using an unlocked 810 on another carrier. AFAIK.
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    Holy c@#$, that's awesome! I've had that installed for just in case I have to travel out of country. I've had it set to T-Mobile ever since I installed it, but I never bothered to try flipping on tethering.

    I don't need tethering, except in those rare occasions, it's nice to know I can cheat when needed.

    Let us know if T-mo tags you for using it ;)
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    JaviPR,

    Thanks for the information. I tried it but it didn't work for me. I already Access Point installed on my Lumia 810. I set the AP to T-Mobile:
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    After I set it, I tried to enable Internet sharing, but I got the same message saying that I don't have tethering plan. So I rebooted my phone. After rebooting, I can enable Internet sharing. I was able to network my laptop to the phone. But when I try to goto a website from my laptop, I got this message from my laptop:
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    So it doesn't work for me. Do you have other non-default settings or applications loaded on your device?

    Thanks.
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    JaviPR,

    Do u mind posting a screenshot of your apn screen here just for comparison? Thx
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    The first time I tried it I loaded up google and facebook but now I went again and tried it and I also got the Tmobile tether plan walledgarden page...

    so sorry this doesn't work out ...

    however for people using a 810 on another provider the access point app should be able to let them connect to that provider's internet network afaik.
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    That's cool. Thanks. Guess I will wait for the XDA forum for a hack on this. Worst case, I will put my SIM card back into the 710 when I need to tether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darthhen View Post
    After I set it, I tried to enable Internet sharing, but I got the same message saying that I don't have tethering plan. So I rebooted my phone. After rebooting, I can enable Internet sharing. I was able to network my laptop to the phone. But when I try to goto a website from my laptop, I got this message from my laptop:
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Name:	TetheringRejected.jpg 
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    So it doesn't work for me. Do you have other non-default settings or applications loaded on your device?

    Thanks.
    You're halfway there... getting that far means it's possible on the 810! YES! (Note: This is the same screen that most people with non-tethering plans get when they try to tether these days)

    All you have to do is use a browser on your laptop, such as Firefox, that allows you to change your user agent string. Change it to the user agent string for a mobile browser and it'll work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystictrust View Post
    You're halfway there... getting that far means it's possible on the 810! YES! (Note: This is the same screen that most people with non-tethering plans get when they try to tether these days)

    All you have to do is use a browser on your laptop, such as Firefox, that allows you to change your user agent string. Change it to the user agent string for a mobile browser and it'll work.
    I am having the same problem... When ipad, laptop and another mobile phone is tethered with the Nokia 810, all of them go to the t mobile page above, and cannot do data for email or apps such as Facebook, etc....

    Darthhen... Have you tried the T-mobile ipv6 one?? What is that??

    Also Mystictrust... You said you got "T-mobile APN".... Do you have the APN settings for that?? Maybe we can manually add them.

    Cheers!
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    EVERYONE listen. This is a KNOWN problem at Tmobile. You have to call customer support and let them know you are being redirected to tmobile ads. The problem is that their network thinks your phone is a computer, and is prohibiting you from tethering because its not on your plan. Just call Tmobile, my problem was fixed.
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    Dude, were trying to side-step paying for tethering. It's unfair that they allow Android phones to tether without having to pay for that feature.

    I finally decided to try it out, unfortunately changing the user agent string in Firefox doesn't work.

    FYI: The easiest way to change your user agent string in Firefox is to install "User Agent Switcher" extension (User Agent Switcher) Then add the following user agents:

    IEMobile 10.0 (WP 8) Desktop
    Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows NT 6.2; Trident/6.0; ARM; Touch; WPDesktop)

    IEMobile 10.0 (WP 8) Mobile
    Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows Phone 8.0; Trident/6.0; IEMobile/10.0; ARM; Touch; NOKIA; Lumia 810)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Microsoftjunkie View Post
    EVERYONE listen. This is a KNOWN problem at Tmobile. You have to call customer support and let them know you are being redirected to tmobile ads. The problem is that their network thinks your phone is a computer, and is prohibiting you from tethering because its not on your plan. Just call Tmobile, my problem was fixed.
    Interesting... What did T Mobile tell you??

    I have a four year old unlimited data plan... Terrific plan, but Tmo are continuously trying to get me to change to one of the new plans...

    Anyway with my HTC HD7 I have had tethering for the last year and a half or so... But after speaking with T Mo they have told me that despite my unlimited data plan, they cannot allow me to have "Internet Sharing" with the Nokia 810... However, if I switch back to the HD7 ( which currently has my UK SIM inside) I have no issues....

    I am unlocking this [nokia 810] phone, so I am hoping tethering will work with my UK, Japanese, Taiwanese and Hong Kong accounts... We will see...

    Cheers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sakaisencho View Post
    Darthhen... Have you tried the T-mobile ipv6 one?? What is that??
    I have no idea what the IPv6 one is, didn't try it.
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    Thanks!!! I finally able to tethering from my unlocked ATT lumia 920 to other devices. I am in Mexico and this works perfect for me with Telcel.

    Quote Originally Posted by JaviPR View Post
    hi,

    I recently got a T-Mobile Lumia 810 with the 2GB plan which does not include tethering. I was about to return it and get an android phone as having tethering is a make or break feature for me and I refuse to pay 15$ for it when I can enable it on any android with ease.

    I know that Nokia has an app called "Access Point" which enables editing and addition of APNs but if you search store via your tmobile lumia 810 that app wont show up. I was able to sideload it tho by going to the Microsoft Windows Phone Store on the web on my pc and clicking on the 'manual download and install' which lets you save the app to your pc. I then copied the app to an SD card and inserted the SD card to my Lumia 810. You then goto Store on your phone, and choose SD card (it takes a few minutes for the app to register the SD card if u just plugged it in, at least it did for me) the downloade app will show up under 'Compatible Apps', I installed it from there and what happened was this: In the 'Settings', at the bottom, a new 'Access Point' appeared which let me choose Tmobile APN and set it. After I did that when I went to 'Internet Sharing' I was able to turn it out and setup my wifi hotspot and connect my PC and android phone to the Lumia 810's Internet!

    What I do not know is if Tmobile will notice that im tethering and then charge me for the feature heh. Ill be sure to find out I guess.

    Can also use this QR code to install the Access Point app from Nokia:

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	nokia accesspoint app.png 
Views:	304 
Size:	599 Bytes 
ID:	26137

    to scan it use the Search on the phone, click Vision icon and focus the code, a web url link should appear, click on it to install Nokia's Access Point.

    Let me know how it goes for all!
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