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    Quote Originally Posted by phonefight View Post
    I have to be honest...as much as I love Windows phone (bought an HD7 on release day) the Lumia 822 let me down. After owning the Surface for a little over a month, I wanted to see how the "ecosystem" experience would feel. Unfortunately, after anxiously waiting for my 822 to arrive, the excitement is sort of gone.

    I am coming from a plethora of high end android phones, along with the iPhone 5. The first thing that stood out to me was the resolution. I usually don't care, but my last 3 phones have had an HD screen, so that's probably why it jumped out at me. The next thing that I always check when getting a new phone is the camera. The camera is just ok on this phone. The camera took pics as though it were a low to mid ranged phone. Flash feels delayed, and the focus for the first shot takes pretty long. Unless you have great lighting, the camera is pretty disappointing.

    The build is decent, but the plastic feel is a turn off. I have the white, which feels slippery in the hand.

    I wanted to go exchange it for the 8X, but the 822 sort of put a damper on the way I feel about Windows Phone. I think, just because of my prior phone background, I should have bought the 8X first. Now I just don't know how to feel about Windows Phone.

    If I exchange for the HD screen and end up not satisfied, I am out of chances to exchange/return. I was really hoping for a Windows Phone to compliment my Surface.
    Just go ahead and get the 8X.
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    I checked out the 822 at a Verizon corporate store inside a mall today. The clerk had to go in the back and grab one from a box to show me because the store had none on display. I liked the form factor but didn't see the display; I didn't want to bother the clerk through booting up a phone I had no intention of buying today. BTW, this corporate store had ZERO Windows Phone posters or anything. It was like pre-WP8.
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    I had the 822 for a week. I loved it. But the display was noticeable. Big time. Especially when you pinch zoom on pics (blurry) or text (ragged).

    What I loved was the speed. The Nokia apps are wonderful. I really wanted to keep it but my eyes could not adjust from my S3 graphics.

    So I still want wp8. I am checking out the 8x today but my fear is it may be too big for me. I'm getting rid of the s3 because of that reason. It's too big. I'm clumsy and drop it sometimes.

    I wish Verizon had a 922. Then it's a no brainier for me.

    I'll post my opinion of the 8x after I check it out.
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    Went to get the wife a new 822 two weeks ago but she ended up with a free 8x due to best buy employee not knowing the difference. Long story for a different thread.

    So two days ago I get the 822 for free with intentions of swapping with her because she couldn't care less. This is her first smart phone.

    Therefore I've played with both extensively side by side. I'm not swapping her unless she asks because I am loving the 822! Definitely pros and cons either way but if I HAD to pick one and both were same price... I'd probably pick the 822.

    Don't get me wrong, the 8x is gorgeous and the screen is sharp. I'd be more than happy with that one. Though I am annoyed to have ordered a screen protector for it because its already scratched from GENTLE use. After abusing my naked D3 for 18 months without a scratch this is annoying! Hoping the body holds up ok otherwise what is the point of having to entomb such a beauty in a case?

    The 822 just feels like a workhorse and I'm not as paranoid about babying it. I also think it feels better in hand with the curved corners and personally prefer the wider screen.

    Screens: I've always liked the cartoonish bright amoled look and the blacks are deeper which makes the bezel disappear more on the 822. Next to each other the 8x blacks look grey. But 8x is sharper. Only time I notice is with small text and even then it's not a huge diff.

    Buttons: I prefer the power button on the 822. I think the reviews exaggerated the difficulty of 8x buttons but 822's are definitely better.

    Camera: I don't care about things like noise, color reproduction, etc that camera nerds refer to in all these reviews. So I can't say if 8x is way better but its probably moderately better. Both phones can take a pic within 2 seconds of coming out of my pocket. The photos look fine to me.

    Front camera widescreen cam is great on the 8x. If you Skype then this is a big deal.

    If you value pocket ability then 8x practically disappears in a front jean pocket. As a guy, that is probably my favorite thing about it.
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    I'm not sure if removable battery and expandable memory are that important. It is comforting to know that I can get a new battery if this one goes downhill before my next new phone. I don't watch video on my phone and all my music, photos, and docs are in cloud. I just sync individual folders, playlists, and albums when wanted so 16gb is probably enough. Though again, it's comforting to know I can throw in a 64gb card and have ALL of it on my phone.... Not that I should,but I could. 😊

    After using the 'midrange' 822, I can't think of another phone I'd trade it for at any price. Maybe the 920 but I'm on Verizon and this one is a fine 'compromise'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitdog042 View Post
    I had the 822 for a week. I loved it. But the display was noticeable. Big time. Especially when you pinch zoom on pics (blurry) or text (ragged).

    What I loved was the speed. The Nokia apps are wonderful. I really wanted to keep it but my eyes could not adjust from my S3 graphics.

    So I still want wp8. I am checking out the 8x today but my fear is it may be too big for me. I'm getting rid of the s3 because of that reason. It's too big. I'm clumsy and drop it sometimes.

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    I've fondled the 8x extensively and can tell you it feels very small compared to screen size. The tapered edges make a big difference and you practically forget it's in your pocket!

    Though compared to 822 I am more nervous about dropping the 8x. The soft touch finish has really good friction but the shear thinness made me afraid it slip out of my hand several times over a couple years of use. I wouldn't even think about making it my daily driver without phone insurance!
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    OK. So I've had the 8x for a week. Screen is better. By far. Battery is just as good too.

    My only knock now is wp8. The lack of Google is killing me. No spotify. Ugh. Notifications work only sometimes.

    Use Google voice? Good luck knowing if you have a voice mail. The 3rd party app is terrible.

    This ecosystem won't survive and if they can't get mainstream apps. The phone itself won't matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitdog042 View Post
    OK. So I've had the 8x for a week. Screen is better. By far. Battery is just as good too.

    My only knock now is wp8. The lack of Google is killing me. No spotify. Ugh. Notifications work only sometimes.

    Use Google voice? Good luck knowing if you have a voice mail. The 3rd party app is terrible.

    This ecosystem won't survive and if they can't get mainstream apps. The phone itself won't matter.
    Not sure. Could also be that Google won't survive once people realize that they use all their services to spy on you and feed info to advertisers.

    As for Spotify, it was on WP7, so I'm sure they are working on WP8 - but Spotify is slow to release these things. I don't really care since Xbox Music is much better IMHO and will soon have apps on Android and, maybe, iPhone.

    I have had zero issues with Notifications.

    Not sure why anyone uses Google Voice. I trust Google not at all with my personal info and don't want them rooting around my voicemail and listening in on my phone calls.

    When the CEO of the company brags that they know when you wake up, know when you go to bed, know where you work, know what you eat, know what you buy, etc - that's some scary stuff.

    Microsoft at least creates products I can buy. Heck, so does Apple. Google is nothing more than an advertising company that builds services and apps to gather more information about you that they can sell so people can pester you. Android's just another part of the plan. Wouldn't be surprised if they give governments a lot of info either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitdog042 View Post
    OK. So I've had the 8x for a week. Screen is better. By far. Battery is just as good too.

    My only knock now is wp8. The lack of Google is killing me. No spotify. Ugh. Notifications work only sometimes.

    Use Google voice? Good luck knowing if you have a voice mail. The 3rd party app is terrible.

    This ecosystem won't survive and if they can't get mainstream apps. The phone itself won't matter.
    Google, I try use as little as possible. Spotify, nope. I prefer to keep my music locally. Notifications work fine.

    Google voice? Nope don't use it either. I have voice mail thru Verizon.

    Mainstream apps? Good grief, give WP8 some time. It's a new os.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitdog042 View Post
    OK. So I've had the 8x for a week. Screen is better. By far. Battery is just as good too.

    My only knock now is wp8. The lack of Google is killing me. No spotify. Ugh. Notifications work only sometimes.

    Use Google voice? Good luck knowing if you have a voice mail. The 3rd party app is terrible.

    This ecosystem won't survive and if they can't get mainstream apps. The phone itself won't matter.
    Get rid of your Google crap and your problem will be fixed.
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    I just checked out the 8x as well in store. Feels alot better in my hand compared to the 822 imo, a lot lighter as well. Its to bad I'm past my return date or else I would take back the 822 and all the wireless charging accessories and get the 8x.
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    Checked out the 822 as well as a 8X at the local best buy. I have to say, the 822 screen is just a treat. The AMOLED panel is just beautiful to look at. The 8X screen just looked pale in comparison. I set the brightness to medium on both and set the same theme and compared them. Both my wife and loved the 822 screen. Sure its lower resolution but it just dint bother us at all. I wanted to check out some websites to see how much better text would look on the 8X panel, but some prankster had changed the keyboard to Arabic and for some reason the phone wouldn't let me change the language back to English from the settings menu. If something better doesnt show up by Feb, I guess 822 it is.
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    And we see from the comments going both directions (8x and 822), there needs to be more than one phone, because we don't all have the same priorities. It's a good thing we have an OS that doesn't box us into a single model of phone.
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    I opted to get the 822 over the 8x for two reasons, expandable memory and a battery I can swap out if needed. I had a Trophy, pretty good phone and almost cracked it open to expand the memory. At the moment you can't get a 32GB WP on Verizon and that sucks, but its a key interest of mine and I am hoping Nokia delivers something along those lines in the spring on Verizon but with expandable memory.
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    Like HitDog402, I come from the world of high-end Androids. and have had 6 since my OG Droid. I understand exactly what HitDog is talking about. The withdrawals from the Google Koolaid are extreme. There were a good 3 or 4 times I was ready to switch back to Android, but forced myself to wait and experience more of the WinWorld. I've had my 822 for almost a month now. My google fevers have subsided. As I learn this new ecosystem, I've now reached the point that my 822 and WIN8P now does everything my Galaxy Nexus and Jellybean 4.22 did. Hold it, I don't have the NOW functionality anymore, but I never used it so never mind.

    I found trying to make my 822 walk and talk google was a waste of time. I did find WIN8 apps that half-assed succeeded in allowing me to continue using my google services. I finally bit the bullet and switched over to MS Services for everything. Exchange mail, calendar, skype, etc. That said, I am now as happy with my 822 and my new ecosystem that I was with my google world. I will continue to miss all the functionality provided by Google+ and its native app. But this tight integration between my phone and my laptop running WIN8 is astronomical.

    So if I may make a suggestion HitDog, instead of focusing on all of the things you can't do, maybe start learning all of the things you can do. If you're like me, you'll be amazed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadwrong03 View Post
    Are u guys serious about complaining about the screen resolution on the 822? Side by side its BARELY even noticeable. The 822 is thicker and wider and the 8x is taller it definitely made me feel better about getting the 822.

    Its not even close the screen resolution is minor but the battery life and removable storage is reason enough to go with the 822
    I'm not complaining! 😊 When I first picked up the 822 I was struck by how great text looked on it. I'm very satisfied with the 822.
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    When I looked at the 8x and the 822 side by side, there was no question that the 8x had the better screen, but I ended up going with the 822 anyway. The removable battery and SD meant something, but the real difference maker was that the 8x seemed too tall, thin and delicate while the 822 was solid and rugged. I've always worn my phones on a belt holster and always will, and I need a phone that can take getting knocked around some. After 3 weeks, I'm very happy with it.
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    When I checked out the 8X, at least the one I saw on display, the colors were dull compared to my Pre 2 (IPS display), and certainly when compared with the 822. I could tell the difference in PPI, but it's not really all that noticeable at normal viewing distance. The 8X's sharper corners, and flush, not so great feeling, buttons were also detractors too me. I also wasn't too thrilled with the narrower aspect ratio of the screen. When you throw in Nokia's support, application exclusives, removable battery, and microSD card, it all kind of sealed the deal for me. It's all about personal tastes and needs. For some, the 8X fills the void. For others...the 822.

    Since I bought my white 822 through eBay, and my upgrade just comes up due tomorrow, I have the option of waiting and seeing if the 928 comes out and makes me want to get that instead. I really have my heart set on the red 822, and I think the 4.3" screen is pretty much the right size for me, but the draw of that camera, and rumored HD AMOLED screen makes me pause. The 822 feels great in the hand, though, and that is a big part of the experience for me.
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    I also have changed to everything MS and couldn't be happier! The 822 for me is the perfect device all around with no regrets.
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