- 04-06-2012, 03:24 PM #4
One thing he's right about ... he IS dry! I can hardly stand to watch him for even 30 seconds. Just take a look at all the Apple hardware sitting around him. You'll never get a fair review from this guy. just my opinion YMMV
04-06-2012, 03:37 PM #6
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Meh, if he doesn't like it, whatever. Its his opinion and he's entitled to it. The rest of us can be happy ith our 900's. Still feel like their quality of news is still far better than Engadget, et al.
I think that the negative points that he brought up in the review are valid ones, but the things that irked me about the review is that he spent zero time on the positive aspects of the platform ( for instance search for live tile in the review - you won't find it). Seems to be based on how the review was written, it was written from the perspective of the ultra techy user (I mean, IRC??, cmon!), and from that standpoint, I can see where he's coming from. That user is probably happier with an Android phone. For the vast majority of users though, I don't think his criticisms hold as much water and would have weighed down the score as much. For the average user, I can easly say this is an 8-9 phone.
Before Mango, I was hesitant to recommend WP to anyone yet, because honestly it felt unpolished. Mango helped to clean a lot of that up, but there's still a ways to go (my two biggest gripes? No notification center (not everyone who does push notifications has a good live tile, such as ebay) and why on earth can I only multitask with back? Why not when I hit the program from the list again????). At this point though, I have no reservations trying to talk people into Windows Phone, especially a lot of my old WiMo friends that went to Android.
- 04-06-2012, 03:39 PM #8
- 04-06-2012, 04:06 PM #9
The takeaway:-You don't know me
-I know more about tech than you
-My review is perfect because Microsoft on the whole doesn't have anything going for it
-I don't have any biases because I know things you don't
-Me me me me me
- 04-06-2012, 05:22 PM #10
while i do enjoy the verge and feel their newsreporting is better than engadget, i am not a fan of josh as i feel he is a pompous tool.
also, am i the only person who really doesn't like the layout of the verge? it's so cluttered, it's like they took the idea of metro and then threw up all over it.
04-06-2012, 08:58 PM #14
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I'm not sure why people are so harsh on this guy for his review. The htc one x only got an 8.4. Personally I think reviewers throw around 8/9s way too easily and it shows by how offended we are to see a phone rated 7/10. The lumia isn't a perfect phone, and we shouldn't pretend like it is. As much as I like it personally, there's a lot of areas where both the phone and the OS are limited and can be improved upon. Maybe 7 is on the low end but honestly 7.5 is just about right imo
04-06-2012, 09:11 PM #15
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- 04-07-2012, 02:31 PM #16
plus i just don't like his personality in general, but that's a whole different topic. :)
- 04-07-2012, 03:08 PM #17
He could have given the Lumia a -10 and i would still buy it. However dwelling on the negative and not pointing any of the positives about the phone that's where i REALLY have an isssue.
It shows how far up Apple's rectum he is in , and for those who will defend him and point out that he's an Android user... come on is he needs to cater to the Android fan base otherwise his blog would get no clicks... my two cents
- 04-07-2012, 07:23 PM #18
Watching his Vergecast comments has really soured me on the whole site. I don't understand where his attitude of superiority comes from. Just because he gets free stuff to review doesn't mean he "knows more about technology than us". The guy is a journalist (using the term loosely) but claims to have some kind of secret insight into technology and I don't understand where that comes from. Listening to the way he talked down to his readership makes me really hesitant to keep reading the site. I didn't really get to upset about the review but the way he has handled it has been really poor.
- 04-07-2012, 07:38 PM #19
Uhh, well, that's the point of being a professional anything--to know more about something than normal people.
Does my doctor know more than me about medicine? Yep. Does my lawyer know more than me about the law? Yep. Does the baseball scout know more than me about baseball? Yep. Does the political journalist know more about what's happening inside Washington than me? Best believe it. Does a tech journalist know more about tech than me? Yep, of course. Because it's their job to.
- 04-07-2012, 07:45 PM #20
I don't want to go into what makes or doesn't make him a professional as the lines of journalism are being blurred in the era of blogs and such, but I don't buy him as a professional akin to a doctor or a lawyer. He's more like the guy who runs WebMD (except they are most likely doctors too). Has he even worked at a tech company aside from "building his own computers" and running tech websites?
- 04-07-2012, 07:55 PM #21
Of course the political journalist has a knowledge of politics in the abstract--it's their job to. They probably studied politics as an undergraduate before they went to J school. And they have strong normative opinions about politics.
Let's pretend you spend all day every single working day playing with technology, writing about technology, thinking about technology. Phones, cameras, computers, everything. And then there's the casual phone user. Who knows more about tech? It's patently absurd to me that you deny him any kind of specialized knowledge because, as far as I can tell, you just don't want him to have it, not because he's unqualified.
As for the comment about bloggers, what is this, 2007?
- 04-07-2012, 08:04 PM #22
In general I have no inherent desire to deprive him of any kind of status. I think overall he has run a good site with plenty of interesting content. What I have a problem with is that he takes such a superior stance with his readers when he is only in the position he is in because of them. That is my problem. And let's be honest most of the people reading his site are not casual phone users. I have played with almost as many phones that they have reviewed on that site (not to mention other gadgets). Does that make me an expert too? I
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