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    There is a strong chance that T-Mobile will NOT carry the Lumia 920.

    Lets use this thread for up to date info on whether or not an unlocked Lumia 920 will work for T-Mobile without restrictions.

    There is speculation that it will when T-Mobile's new spectrum comes out rumored this year.

    Some say it will work perfectly, some say it won't.

    I am happy with T-Mobile. I pay $70 a month for unlimited talk, text and data.

    At&t and Verizon's plan makes it very difficult to stay under $100 a month.

    Please, only those who have real information.
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    I am holding out hope that an AWS (for T-Mobile, Wind Mobile, Mobilicity) variant of the 920 will be released as well.

    When the 710 was originally announced they did not list the AWS frequencies on the specs, but people who unlocked the phone and used the connection setup app were able to get it to run on AWS carriers. I hope it will be the same situation.
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    I'm hoping Nokia will sell them.
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    I thought it was confirmed from engadgets Elop interview that the L920 isn't going to have the AWS band on the phone. I really want them to but I don't think it's going to happen. An unlocked phone could work on Tmobiles 2g network.

    Edit: I found this article while looking into the issue more: http://www.techradar.com/us/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/rumor-nokia-lumia-820-and-920-coming-to-at-t-nov-2-1094943

    So there might be a chance since they are suppose to release a pentaband HSPA model later on in the year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkrc717 View Post
    There is a strong chance that T-Mobile will NOT carry the Lumia 920.

    Lets use this thread for up to date info on whether or not an unlocked Lumia 920 will work for T-Mobile without restrictions.

    There is speculation that it will when T-Mobile's new spectrum comes out rumored this year.

    Some say it will work perfectly, some say it won't.

    I am happy with T-Mobile. I pay $70 a month for unlimited talk, text and data.

    At&t and Verizon's plan makes it very difficult to stay under $100 a month.

    Please, only those who have real information.

    An unlocked Lumia 920 will work on T-Mobile's network after the network refarming is complete by the end of the year but you will probably only get HSPA+14 not the HSPA+42 which both the AWS band and the device support. Still HSPA+14 is not bad as that's the speed the iphone 4S runs on AT&T's network but of course HSPA+42 is faster. Although the refarming will support any unlocked AT&T phone, T-Mobile is really doing the network refarm to accommodate unlocked iphone 3GS-4S which do not support more than 14.4mbps data speeds. Therefore, I doubt the refarmed network will be upgraded faster than that although I could be wrong. I will be getting the Lumia 820 with the 1700MHz band so I can enjoy HSPA+42 on T-Mobile's AWS network. It's nice to see T-Mobile doing this network refarming and it will be really good for the company.
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    Well since the 920 is going to be ATT exclusive and there being question marks on the 820, looks like I'm going to buy an unlocked 920 and use it on T-Mobiles network.

    My questions are . . . . .

    Will an unlocked 920 be sold from the Nokia website or an unbranded phone be available?

    Also, when T-Mobile finishes it's spectrum this year, will it be T-Mobile's 4g or will it be slower?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkrc717 View Post
    Well since the 920 is going to be ATT exclusive and there being question marks on the 820, looks like I'm going to buy an unlocked 920 and use it on T-Mobiles network.

    My questions are . . . . .

    Will an unlocked 920 be sold from the Nokia website or an unbranded phone be available?

    Also, when T-Mobile finishes it's spectrum this year, will it be T-Mobile's 4g or will it be slower?
    You would have to buy an import if you want an unlocked 920. The 900 is still locked by AT&T in the states.

    I always buy unbranded/unlocked GSM phones. I currently an unbranded/unlocked Nokia N8 (US Version), an unbranded/unlocked Samsung Galaxy S2 (from Greece) and an unbranded/unlocked HTC 7 Trophy (from Germany). You need to watch sites like ebay, Amazon, MobileCityOnline and NewEgg for imports.
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    Quote Originally Posted by palandri View Post
    You would have to buy an import if you want an unlocked 920. The 900 is still locked by AT&T in the states.

    I always buy unbranded/unlocked GSM phones. I currently an unbranded/unlocked Nokia N8 (US Version), an unbranded/unlocked Samsung Galaxy S2 (from Greece) and an unbranded/unlocked HTC 7 Trophy (from Germany). You need to watch sites like ebay, Amazon, MobileCityOnline and NewEgg for imports.
    I've never purchased an unlocked phone over seas before.

    Are there any restrictions or anything I should know about that I may not be happy about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkrc717 View Post
    I've never purchased an unlocked phone over seas before.

    Are there any restrictions or anything I should know about that I may not be happy about?
    No restrictions. Sites like MobileCityOnline, NewEgg do the importing, you're just buying it from them.

    Just watch what country it's imported from. When you do a firmware upgrade on an import, it will normally go back to it's original country code language (unless you flash it to a different country code). My Trophy goes back to German, and it's not too hard to figure out how to get it back to English. My Galaxy S2 goes back to Greek and that's harder to get back to English because the Greek alphabet is different. Can you imagine how hard it would be to get back to English if you got an import from China, Japan or Saudi Arabia?
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    Quote Originally Posted by palandri View Post
    No restrictions. Sites like MobileCityOnline, NewEgg do the importing, you're just buying it from them.

    Just watch what country it's imported from. When you do a firmware upgrade on an import, it will normally go back to it's original country code language (unless you flash it to a different country code). My Trophy goes back to German, and it's not too hard to figure out how to get it back to English. My Galaxy S2 goes back to Greek and that's harder to get back to English because the Greek alphabet is different. Can you imagine how hard it would be to get back to English if you got an import from China, Japan or Saudi Arabia?
    How fast would it be on T-Mobile? Would it be 3G or 4G?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkrc717 View Post
    How fast would it be on T-Mobile? Would it be 3G or 4G?
    On the Nokia global site, not the U.S. site, the 920 is listed as a pentaband phone, meaning it has all 5 bands and will work on either AT&T or T-Mobile. No need to wait for T-Mobile refarming:
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/upc...ces/198451.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by palandri View Post
    You would have to buy an import if you want an unlocked 920. The 900 is still locked by AT&T in the states.

    I always buy unbranded/unlocked GSM phones. I currently an unbranded/unlocked Nokia N8 (US Version), an unbranded/unlocked Samsung Galaxy S2 (from Greece) and an unbranded/unlocked HTC 7 Trophy (from Germany). You need to watch sites like ebay, Amazon, MobileCityOnline and NewEgg for imports.

    Whoa....that's a lot of unlocked phones. Must've cost a boat load of moola.

    I'm on the same boat it seems. I'll have to buy unlocked phone and use it on TMO network.
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    Quote Originally Posted by palandri View Post
    On the Nokia global site, not the U.S. site, the 920 is listed as a pentaband phone, meaning it has all 5 bands and will work on either AT&T or T-Mobile. No need to wait for T-Mobile refarming:
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/upc...ces/198451.htm
    How realistic is that though? Pentaband WCDMA is not new but all those LTE bands in one radio as well seems a bit much. I would lean towards it just being a listing of all the bands the phone is capable of and not what is actually in any one device.
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    Quote Originally Posted by palandri View Post
    On the Nokia global site, not the U.S. site, the 920 is listed as a pentaband phone, meaning it has all 5 bands and will work on either AT&T or T-Mobile. No need to wait for T-Mobile refarming:
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/upc...ces/198451.htm
    Quote Originally Posted by theefman View Post
    How realistic is that though? Pentaband WCDMA is not new but all those LTE bands in one radio as well seems a bit much. I would lean towards it just being a listing of all the bands the phone is capable of and not what is actually in any one device.
    I hope someone can verify. Because having this phone unlocked for T-Mobile, not having to wait for the spectrum and it being as fast as a T-Mobile branded phone would be perfection.

    I was planning on buying this phone out right anyway to have the unlimited value plan. So this exclusive stuff would mean nothing to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkrc717 View Post
    I hope someone can verify. Because having this phone unlocked for T-Mobile, not having to wait for the spectrum and it being as fast as a T-Mobile branded phone would be perfection.

    I was planning on buying this phone out right anyway to have the unlimited value plan. So this exclusive stuff would mean nothing to me.
    I would just wait till its released, the Euro version should have the most bands onboard, best to buy from someone like Clove or expansys then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theefman View Post
    I would just wait till its released, the Euro version should have the most bands onboard, best to buy from someone like Clove or expansys then.
    Quote Originally Posted by jkrc717 View Post
    I hope someone can verify. Because having this phone unlocked for T-Mobile, not having to wait for the spectrum and it being as fast as a T-Mobile branded phone would be perfection.
    I cannot, of course, swear it will, but I can confirm first hand that the Nokia N8 (amazing phone, BTW) works perfectly on T-Mobile USA's HPSA. Here are the bands the N8 supports:
    GSM 850
    GSM 900
    GSM 1800
    GSM 1900
    WCDMA Band V (850)
    WCDMA Band VIII (900)
    WCDMA Band IV (1700)
    WCDMA Band II (1900)
    WCDMA Band I (2100)

    And here are the 920's bands:
    GSM 850
    GSM 900
    GSM 1800
    GSM 1900
    WCDMA Band V (850)
    WCDMA Band VIII (900)
    WCDMA Band IV (1700)
    WCDMA Band II (1900)
    WCDMA Band I (2100)
    LTE 700
    LTE 800
    LTE 850
    LTE 900
    LTE 1700
    LTE 1800
    LTE 1900
    LTE 2100
    LTE 2600

    As you will note, the Lumia 920 supports a super-set of the N8's bands, so I'd say it's 90%+ certain to work "out of the box" on T-Mobile.

    This makes me very happy.
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    Any new info on this issue?
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    Ok so the main site is saying that someone contacted Nokia about the international version having the AWS bands, and Nokia responded by saying that they are listed there by mistake.

    As I currently look at the international Nokia sites the bands are still listed so I will wait and see if they are removed any time soon. For some reason I have a feeling Nokia might be denying the AWS bands to protect their exclusivity deal with ATT (in other words so that people don't get ideas to buy internationally and unlock them).

    The reason I say this is because the Canadian Nokia site doesn't list the AWS bands for the Lumia 710 but it is confirmed that the phone does support those bands.

    The only way to find out for sure is if someone is willing to buy an international version and get it unlocked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by squire777 View Post
    Ok so the main site is saying that someone contacted Nokia about the international version having the AWS bands, and Nokia responded by saying that they are listed there by mistake.

    As I currently look at the international Nokia sites the bands are still listed so I will wait and see if they are removed any time soon. For some reason I have a feeling Nokia might be denying the AWS bands to protect their exclusivity deal with ATT (in other words so that people don't get ideas to buy internationally and unlock them).

    The reason I say this is because the Canadian Nokia site doesn't list the AWS bands for the Lumia 710 but it is confirmed that the phone does support those bands.

    The only way to find out for sure is if someone is willing to buy an international version and get it unlocked.
    Interesting theory. It might be true.

    Keep in mind the 1700 band isn't real popular. It's only used by carriers in the U.S., Canada and Chile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by squire777 View Post
    Ok so the main site is saying that someone contacted Nokia about the international version having the AWS bands, and Nokia responded by saying that they are listed there by mistake.

    As I currently look at the international Nokia sites the bands are still listed so I will wait and see if they are removed any time soon. For some reason I have a feeling Nokia might be denying the AWS bands to protect their exclusivity deal with ATT (in other words so that people don't get ideas to buy internationally and unlock them).

    The reason I say this is because the Canadian Nokia site doesn't list the AWS bands for the Lumia 710 but it is confirmed that the phone does support those bands.

    The only way to find out for sure is if someone is willing to buy an international version and get it unlocked.
    So, I wonder if that means that the Lumia 820 WILL support those bands as well. If so, that negates my whole rant status on FB about how only an iPhone 5 will support all the bands I need completely redundant. In which case... FML I RAGE WAY TOO EARLY! GFDI!

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    I wouldn't put too much stock into my theory - it was just me holding on to what little hope I have left for this phone :)
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    As I tweeted Sept. 7 (@hasasimo) before much of this news went public, only AT&T and Verizon will be getting the Lumia 920 (and variants). Sorry folks. Just go the pre-paid, MVNO route if you can.

    As for me, I was all set to get a grey L920, but I had no idea there was no FM radio until today. I'll just stick with my L900.

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    Not sure if anyone else noticed, but according to FCC documents the 920 supports T-Mobile's AWS bands. The flame of hope just doesn't want to die (for me at least).

    FCC page:
    https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repor...c_id='PYAA'

    "SAR r2" document, see page 5 & 10:
    https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicat...tml?id=1811301

    EDIT: Apparently the 2nd link doesn't work unless you go there from the FCC page.
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    Yeah, it's official. The non AT&T lumia 920 supports pentaband!



    Thanks to v10type-r posting the image in his thread.

    Phone is lumia 920.3 RM-820 Canadian Ver for Rogers. Hopefully this isn't the only one with the 1700/2100 band support
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    Hmm... This is reawakening my desire to get an unlocked international 920! :excl:
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