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    Now you know. Some people learned the perks of subsidization today.
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    Now you know
    Am I missing something? Did you mean to link a story? An interview with someone from Nokia? A analyst report?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgk1 View Post
    Am I missing something? Did you mean to link a story? An interview with someone from Nokia? A analyst report?
    Miss the front page of wpcentral? Referring to the price and free charge pad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgk1 View Post
    Am I missing something? Did you mean to link a story? An interview with someone from Nokia? A analyst report?
    He didn't, but it's a reasonable inference when you look at the disparity between the $99 Lumia 920 with 32GB of memory and a black charging pad that AT&T did a big pre-buy of versus $199 for an 8X with just 16GB or memory and no perks whatsoever.
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    Right Nokia will make more money if they spread the love to other carriers like tmobile
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikejets89 View Post
    Right Nokia will make more money if they spread the love to other carriers like tmobile
    Prove it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vagrantwade View Post
    Miss the front page of wpcentral? Referring to the price and free charge pad.
    I never check the front-page - plus I'm English and here the exclusivity deal is with the most expensive network available at the high possible prices, there is no saving for the consumer that is relative to deals on any other network. So I'm still in the dark of the benefits for us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgk1 View Post
    I never check the front-page - plus I'm English and here the exclusivity deal is with the most expensive network available at the high possible prices, there is no saving for the consumer that is relative to deals on any other network. So I'm still in the dark of the benefits for us.
    I know nothing about the European phone market so no comment. But now in the US the 920 is 1/3 of the price of the 32gb iPhone 5 on contract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgk1 View Post
    I never check the front-page - plus I'm English and here the exclusivity deal is with the most expensive network available at the high possible prices, there is no saving for the consumer that is relative to deals on any other network. So I'm still in the dark of the benefits for us.
    You do know that you'll be able to get 920 on t-mobile and orange 3g networks as well, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by luckylifo View Post
    You do know that you'll be able to get 920 on t-mobile and orange 3g networks as well, right?
    On 36 minimum 24 month contracts according to what Phones4U have said to people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vagrantwade View Post
    I know nothing about the European phone market so no comment. But now in the US the 920 is 1/3 of the price of the 32gb iPhone 5 on contract.
    The 900 was also really cheap, but it didn't sell well at all.

    I really hope AT&T will push the 920 hard.
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    So anyone wondering why Nokia did exclusivity deals
    Businesses have one thing in mind, what will make them the most money. I am not saying it's wrong by any means; it's just the way they think.

    There is no doubt in my mind the exclusive deals by Nokia makes them more money.
    Check out the great deals on Windows Phone Accessories: http://store.wpcentral.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by palandri View Post
    Businesses have one thing in mind, what will make them the most money. I am not saying it's wrong by any means; it's just the way they think.

    There is no doubt in my mind the exclusive deals by Nokia makes them more money.
    At a time they need it as well.
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    The deal is amazing.

    If this is what exclusivity does for Nokia, it's no wonder they did it.

    And yet, I have a feeling that many of those that called Nokia "stupid" won't change their minds.
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    The new deal does look good, but the real test will be how many people switch networks to get the phone..
    Here in the UK, the exclusivity arrangement doesn't seem to benefit anyone as the contract pricing is expensive, no freebies and the colour range is very limited
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    Quote Originally Posted by vagrantwade View Post
    I know nothing about the European phone market so no comment. But now in the US the 920 is 1/3 of the price of the 32gb iPhone 5 on contract.
    And includes a free wireless charging pad + Nokia Drive & Maps which make the iPhone maps app look like something made by the folks at Fisher-Price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoukiFC3S View Post
    The 900 was also really cheap, but it didn't sell well at all.

    I really hope AT&T will push the 920 hard.
    They did a decent job selling the 900 (albeit some stores where better than others). I would imagine that with the marketing push Micronia is getting ready to roll out that they have an agreement in place with AT&T to drive consumers to the WP8 devices.
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    I have a feeling the hype around the next Xbox console, the surface, and Windows 8 will give WP8 a boost WP7 never had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmacleodbrown View Post
    The new deal does look good, but the real test will be how many people switch networks to get the phone..
    Here in the UK, the exclusivity arrangement doesn't seem to benefit anyone as the contract pricing is expensive, no freebies and the colour range is very limited
    I'm not sure if the purpose of this deal is to make people switch carriers.

    Well, I'm sure that's part of it. But I imagine that the main thing they want people to do is pick this phone with their AT&T upgrade.

    AT&T would like it if Apple had less of a stranglehold on them.
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    So I can have a Lumia 920 with free charge pad and an AT&T account with 10 GB of data and unlimited text/talk for a two-year all-in cost of $3,699 (plus tax), or a T-Mobile Windows Phone 8X with unlimited everything (and no data cap) for a two-year all-in cost of $1,878 (plus tax).

    With the $1,821 I save going with T-Mobile, I can purchase all of the following:

    1) An unlocked Lumia 920 with charge pad;
    2) An X-Box 360 with two controllers;
    3) A 45-inch SuperLED color HDTV;
    4) One year of high-speed internet access...

    And still get unlimited HSPA+42 that AT&T can't sell you at any price.

    It doesn't seem like the consumer benefits much from "exclusivity" to me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by brmiller1976 View Post
    So I can have a Lumia 920 with free charge pad and an AT&T account with 10 GB of data and unlimited text/talk for a two-year all-in cost of $3,699 (plus tax), or a T-Mobile Windows Phone 8X with unlimited everything (and no data cap) for a two-year all-in cost of $1,878 (plus tax).

    With the $1,821 I save going with T-Mobile, I can purchase all of the following:

    1) An unlocked Lumia 920 with charge pad;
    2) An X-Box 360 with two controllers;
    3) A 45-inch SuperLED color HDTV;
    4) One year of high-speed internet access...

    And still get unlimited HSPA+42 that AT&T can't sell you at any price.

    It doesn't seem like the consumer benefits much from "exclusivity" to me...
    Consumers don're really benefit with carriers that get practically no reception where they live, work, or travel either.

    T-Mo might be great for you. But it would be a horrible choice for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brmiller1976 View Post
    So I can have a Lumia 920 with free charge pad and an AT&T account with 10 GB of data and unlimited text/talk for a two-year all-in cost of $3,699 (plus tax), or a T-Mobile Windows Phone 8X with unlimited everything (and no data cap) for a two-year all-in cost of $1,878 (plus tax).

    With the $1,821 I save going with T-Mobile, I can purchase all of the following:

    1) An unlocked Lumia 920 with charge pad;
    2) An X-Box 360 with two controllers;
    3) A 45-inch SuperLED color HDTV;
    4) One year of high-speed internet access...

    And still get unlimited HSPA+42 that AT&T can't sell you at any price.

    It doesn't seem like the consumer benefits much from "exclusivity" to me...

    And for people without T-Mobile or at least high speed t-mobile in their region, this means absolutely nothing to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vagrantwade View Post
    I know nothing about the European phone market so no comment. But now in the US the 920 is 1/3 of the price of the 32gb iPhone 5 on contract.
    In Finland, EVERY phone is ALLWAYS 0. You pay only maybe 10/15/20/month. It's weird you have to pay before you can get the phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zolgi View Post
    In Finland, EVERY phone is ALLWAYS 0€. You pay only maybe 10€/15€/20€/month. It's weird you have to pay before you can get the phone.
    Aand whatever plan you want attached to it. Generally less than 50€/month, though. I'd guess average is around 35€/month? That is, both for the phone and for the plan.
    Last edited by keizka; 11-06-2012 at 03:29 PM. Reason: Added text
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    Quote Originally Posted by brmiller1976 View Post
    So I can have a Lumia 920 with free charge pad and an AT&T account with 10 GB of data and unlimited text/talk for a two-year all-in cost of $3,699 (plus tax), or a T-Mobile Windows Phone 8X with unlimited everything (and no data cap) for a two-year all-in cost of $1,878 (plus tax).

    With the $1,821 I save going with T-Mobile, I can purchase all of the following:

    1) An unlocked Lumia 920 with charge pad;
    2) An X-Box 360 with two controllers;
    3) A 45-inch SuperLED color HDTV;
    4) One year of high-speed internet access...

    And still get unlimited HSPA+42 that AT&T can't sell you at any price.

    It doesn't seem like the consumer benefits much from "exclusivity" to me...
    Where are you seeing a 10GB data plan on AT&T? Highest I know of is 5GB.

    Your math seems off. I say this because I shopped around before deciding to leave Sprint a few weeks back. T-Mobile's "unlimited 4G blah de blah" is $89/month. Says so here: Unlimited Data | Our New Unlimited Data Plan | T-Mobile

    AT&T gives me 450 minutes ($40) and 3GB of Data ($30), and then lets me pay $.20/text. I usually get less than 100 messages a month, so it makes no sense to pay $20 for unlimited texting.

    That puts my bill at just a little less than T-Mobile, plus I get LTE all over the place instead of HSPA+ 42 only in the biggest metro areas. I also get a bigger corporate discount through my job for AT&T (21 percent) than I do for T-Mobile (15 percent).

    My data may be capped, but I have wi-fi at home, at work, plus I can use lots of AT&T wifi on the go. I don't see myself hitting the cap anytime soon, even though I can stream whatever I want virtually when I want. I much prefer downloading files from Zune Pass/Xbox Music to have locally, regardless.
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