- 11-08-2012, 09:32 AM #1
So after reading the Techno Buffalo review and seeing the daytime photo pictures I thought I'd email Mr. Elop about the quality of the Lumia during the day. He responded this morning.
Here is what I wrote him.
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 02:56
To: Elop Stephen (Nokia/Espoo)
Subject: Lumia 920 pre ordered but...
Iíve been so excited for my Lumia 920 preorder, but Iíve been worried to say the least about some of the day time pictures. A lot of these are laughably bad and I donít seem to understand why.
Iím not saying this to frustrate you or pick some sort of fight. I just donít want to return my Lumia 920 for the HTC 8X if I knew a camera fix was on the way. Iíve included the link to a site that has some pictures for you to view that show my concernsÖ this is just one of many that show pictures like this.
Nokia Lumia 920 Review - The Best Windows Phone 8 Device Yet? | TechnoBuffalo
here are the pictures if you want to just cut straight to it.
Also Iíd like to know if itís possible that this fix would fix some of the issues that some people have claimed happen at night.
Thanks again Stephen.
Here is his response:
Thanks for the note. We are getting a lot of in field experience with this amazing camera, and the good news is that we can learn from the volume of photos that are beginning to be taken, and can definitely adjust and improve. This will be an ongoing theme for us for sure. The sensor and lens are great, and we are continuing to push forward with the computational photography software to make an even better end result.
So, the 920 is a good bet if you are serious about photography.
All in all I think Stephen is a classy guy, and I appreciate him responding to me. I do wish a more direct answer was given to me. Like "Hey Chris we are aware of this and great progress has been made. A fix will be out soon."
Anyways I thought I'd just share that with you all.
- 11-08-2012, 09:39 AM #3
- 11-08-2012, 09:49 AM #5
"we are continuing to push forward with the computational photography software to make an even better end result."
That sounds pretty straight forward to me. I sure do hope the camera gets fixed. With att only giving us 14 days to return the phones, Nokia will need to have something to give us pretty quickly before people start exchanging for the 8x. I'm giving the 920 a chance, but as of now the 8x takes better pictures- and I take a lot of pictures with my phone.
- 11-08-2012, 10:01 AM #9
I exchanged many emails with Elop over the last 6 months and he's very kind and caring.
He always cced other employees that took care of my issue (hue fix for canadians on Rogers, microphone saturation in the 900, getting more 920 colors to Rogers, etc...)
He's on top of his game, but some of the people that work under him do not follow through sometimes.
- 11-08-2012, 10:09 AM #11
Just because the hardware sounds good on paper doesn't mean it works. Unless they can (and do) fix the camera with software patches, OIS and carl zeiss optics (among many other things) on the 920 is lipstick on a pig. The 8x doesn't have lipstick, but it isn't a pig.
- 11-08-2012, 10:33 AM #12
11-08-2012, 10:42 AM #14
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I loved the TechnoBuffalo review but those pics just dont seem right. Its almost like they got a busted camera. There have been a bunch of reviews where the 920 took awesome or very good day and night pictures. I guess we will all see for ourselves tomorrow! I cant wait!
Here are some examples. I wont be too upset if I get these types of results out of the box.
Camera phone comparison; iPhone 5, Note II, HTC 8X, Lumia 920 | ZDNet
Nokia Lumia 920 sample shots - Engadget Galleries
11-08-2012, 10:47 AM #16
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I dont get all this with the bad camera. Sure some sites have been able to take some pretty bad pictures, but some has also been pretty good in my opinion. Take for example these pictures:
Nokia Lumia 920 - a set on Flickr
They are taken with the 920, by a danish mobile site in their preview of the phone.
I dont know about anyone else. But if I am able to take similar photos im gonna be a very happy camper once I get my Lumia =)
11-08-2012, 10:56 AM #18
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I wouldn't be surprised if it takes several weeks before a camera fix is available through update.
The 920's pricing is just so insane, I have to think that it's that way for a reason.
I don't see too many people returning the 920+charger for an 8X with 1/4 the storage.
11-08-2012, 10:59 AM #19
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I haven't had very many "bad" photos like in the reviews. Its hit or miss it seems with the write ups.. my images so far have been very good and I am very pleased with them.
And it sounds like they will just get better.
8.7MP Pureview, Pureview HD screen, Dolby enhancement and equalizer, Qi wireless charging, NFC and most importantly Windows Phone 8 make this handset in my opinion the best over anything out there.
8X is ok, but I bet HTC releases an 8Z or something with a quad core and 32+ GB storage, 16GB just doesn't cut it.
I would take the ATIV-S over the 8X at this point, at least it has expandable storage, replaceable battery and a 4.8" screen.