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    Title says it all, stood in line, then got told only on contract. Bunch of tossers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theefman View Post
    Title says it all, stood in line, then got told only on contract. Bunch of tossers.
    I had that happen to me when I was switching back to AT&T from T-Mobile. All I wanted was a SIM card, because I had my own GSM phone. They told me I had to sign a 2 year contract. I left.

    I called AT&T and ordered the SIM card off contract - 30 days and out. I told them what happened at the store and they told me they have no control over what the stores do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theefman View Post
    Title says it all, stood in line, then got told only on contract. Bunch of tossers.
    Too bad the Microsoft Store there doesn't have any yet. Just called them.

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    Most stores will probably do that for you. I used to work at an authorized retail store for Verizon, and we would not sell any "recently launched" phones off contract to anyone. We were told not too. If you really wanted an off-contract phone you could have ordered online or will have to wait. The people who get precedence in these launches is the people who are signing up for a new contract or the people who are extending their contract due to that's where the cell providers make their money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyHat View Post
    Most stores will probably do that for you. I used to work at an authorized retail store for Verizon, and we would not sell any "recently launched" phones off contract to anyone. We were told not too. If you really wanted an off-contract phone you could have ordered online or will have to wait. The people who get precedence in these launches is the people who are signing up for a new contract or the people who are extending their contract due to that's where the cell providers make their money.
    Not true for AT&T... they won't even sell it online (off-contract) unless you add a plan with it.

    I think part of this has to do with MVNOs beginning to kick those thieves butts. More and more people are starting to realize what a rip-off their individual plans are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hasasimo View Post
    Not true for AT&T... they won't even sell it online (off-contract) unless you add a plan with it.

    I think part of this has to do with MVNOs beginning to kick those thieves butts. More and more people are starting to realize what a rip-off their individual plans are.
    Someone mentioned in another post that after you received your "No Commitment" phone you could just call and cancel the plan with no penalty. Hope that is true, because that is what I plan to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mlm1950 View Post
    Someone mentioned in another post that after you received your "No Commitment" phone you could just call and cancel the plan with no penalty. Hope that is true, because that is what I hope to do.
    I might have to do that as well, with Microsoft Stores apparently lying about availability and yellow not being available anywhere (or so it seems) until sometime next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlm1950 View Post
    Someone mentioned in another post that after you received your "No Commitment" phone you could just call and cancel the plan with no penalty. Hope that is true, because that is what I hope to do.
    Yep. Got an email saying the phone basically needs to be activated anyways to use. (turn on phone and make a test call). So once I get my wireless charger + phone will call and cancel.
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    OP,
    There was no line at the AT&T store this morning. Not sure if there was one later on. But, the MS store in the same mall has these in stock. IIRC, he said, I have two options. To go with a plan or to buy it off contract. Check with them and you might be able to buy one off contract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by veereshai View Post
    OP,
    There was no line at the AT&T store this morning. Not sure if there was one later on. But, the MS store in the same mall has these in stock. IIRC, he said, I have two options. To go with a plan or to buy it off contract. Check with them and you might be able to buy one off contract.
    So you said the MS store there only has black, white, and red, correct? No yellow or cyan?

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    Buying a phone off-contract through a carrier is stupid. Get it from the company direct or SIM free from Amazon, etc. AT&T wants to sell to current customers, whether they are tying it to a service contract or they go month to month. No, in theory there is nothing preventing you from buying a Lumia 920 from an AT&T off-contract with a rate plan and calling later to cancel. You paid full retail. There is no ETF.

    Because the current crop of inventory is for current and new customers of AT&T, I bet stores are preventing people from buying the phones for $450 off contract and selling them for $800 on Craigslist. What's to stop someone getting their phone for $99 (or less) and selling it for $450 themselves?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hasasimo View Post
    So you said the MS store there only has black, white, and red, correct? No yellow or cyan?
    Not sure. I walked in and the representative asked me what color I was interested in. I said red would be my first choice and if not red, I'll take the white. She went inside and got me the red one, didn't ask her if they have other colors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theefman View Post
    Title says it all, stood in line, then got told only on contract. Bunch of tossers.
    Pentagon city? I right down the street free m you. Go to the store in Clarendon. They have it....but only in black.
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    I tried to buy the phone off contract in an at&t store in nyc and got denied as well. Its really baffling that companies don't want to make money.. I understand if they need to make money, add a mark up and everybody wins. But to say no to up front money, makes no sense...:@:mad:
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    Quote Originally Posted by wamsille View Post
    Buying a phone off-contract through a carrier is stupid. Get it from the company direct or SIM free from Amazon, etc. AT&T wants to sell to current customers, whether they are tying it to a service contract or they go month to month. No, in theory there is nothing preventing you from buying a Lumia 920 from an AT&T off-contract with a rate plan and calling later to cancel. You paid full retail. There is no ETF.

    Because the current crop of inventory is for current and new customers of AT&T, I bet stores are preventing people from buying the phones for $450 off contract and selling them for $800 on Craigslist. What's to stop someone getting their phone for $99 (or less) and selling it for $450 themselves?
    When you try to buy the phone from Nokia.com, it just sends you to the AT&T order page.
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    Thanks for the tips on availability, had to come into work so no 920 for me! I'll just see what happens next week as I'm sure they will be sold out today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBadGuy_88 View Post
    I tried to buy the phone off contract in an at&t store in nyc and got denied as well. Its really baffling that companies don't want to make money.. I understand if they need to make money, add a mark up and everybody wins. But to say no to up front money, makes no sense...:@:mad:
    2 main reasons why new phones are not immediately sold off-contract...

    1. Resellers: They will go on Ebay or Craig's list and somehow sell it for a higher price. Especially if not many AT&T stores are selling it no contract to begin with.

    2. When a customer signs a contract, it proves to be more money long term than someone just buying the phone outright. Think about it. 90 dollars for the cheapest plan? 90 x 2 years = 1980.00 dollars. That's practically 5 920s being sold out right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmoon24 View Post
    2 main reasons why new phones are not immediately sold off-contract...

    1. Resellers: They will go on Ebay or Craig's list and somehow sell it for a higher price. Especially if not many AT&T stores are selling it no contract to begin with.

    2. When a customer signs a contract, it proves to be more money long term than someone just buying the phone outright. Think about it. 90 dollars for the cheapest plan? 90 x 2 years = 1980.00 dollars. That's practically 5 920s being sold out right.
    No 1 makes sense but for no 2, I'm already an at&t customer and only for about 6 months so I'm not eligible for an upgrade hence why I have to buy it off contract. I guess the logic is I will break my current contract, pay the ETF and sign a new one for the 920 but only a complete fool would do that, so reason why I wanted to buy it off contract, which lets remember they advertised. If they're not prepared to sell it off contract why even say its available that way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hasasimo View Post
    Not true for AT&T... they won't even sell it online (off-contract) unless you add a plan with it.

    I think part of this has to do with MVNOs beginning to kick those thieves butts. More and more people are starting to realize what a rip-off their individual plans are.
    I just went to the very last step on ordering a 920 cyan online, no commitment and it didn't make it me add a plan to it. (I'm not ordering until next week) It showed my current plan and that's it. Go to the phone page, click on order, choose upgrade, log in and that's it. All I had to do. Now if you don't have an AT&T account at all and just want the phone, then yeah I could see that being an issue but that makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTimSmith View Post
    I just went to the very last step on ordering a 920 cyan online, no commitment and it didn't make it me add a plan to it. (I'm not ordering until next week) It showed my current plan and that's it. Go to the phone page, click on order, choose upgrade, log in and that's it. All I had to do. Now if you don't have an AT&T account at all and just want the phone, then yeah I could see that being an issue but that makes sense.
    For new customers, selecting a plan is the second step after the first step of selecting a phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTimSmith View Post
    I just went to the very last step on ordering a 920 cyan online, no commitment and it didn't make it me add a plan to it. (I'm not ordering until next week) It showed my current plan and that's it. Go to the phone page, click on order, choose upgrade, log in and that's it. All I had to do. Now if you don't have an AT&T account at all and just want the phone, then yeah I could see that being an issue but that makes sense.
    Yeah, I'm not an AT&T customer. I use MVNOs like Red Pocket and StraightTalk and pay less than half the price every month. You have to already be a customer for it not to make you add a plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hasasimo View Post
    Yeah, I'm not an AT&T customer. I use MVNOs like Red Pocket and StraightTalk and pay less than half the price every month. You have to already be a customer for it not to make you add a plan.
    Ah, gotcha. Makes sense. Do you know anyone with AT&T? In theory couldn't they just buy the phone for you and you give them the money?
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    Quote Originally Posted by theefman View Post
    No 1 makes sense but for no 2, I'm already an at&t customer and only for about 6 months so I'm not eligible for an upgrade hence why I have to buy it off contract. I guess the logic is I will break my current contract, pay the ETF and sign a new one for the 920 but only a complete fool would do that, so reason why I wanted to buy it off contract, which lets remember they advertised. If they're not prepared to sell it off contract why even say its available that way?
    As the saying goes, there's always other fish in the sea. So they don't mind you finishing up your plan if it means a new customer or one who is eligible wants to sign 2 years away.

    It's AT&T though. The way the launch has been handled + every store is doing something different should tell you enough about how things are supposed to be handled.
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    I can't wait until we live in a country (USA) where we could buy devices from phone manufacturers and connect them to whatever carrier we choose!! I've been in constant contact with Nokia and they apparently don't like money either!!!.. they won't even sell me a build 2012 version of the device that they gave away for free!!! Smh how does that even make sense? To be honest I don't want to buy the device from negri... I want Nokia to sell it to me for full price so I can use it on any GSM Carrier of MY choosing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wamsille View Post
    Buying a phone off-contract through a carrier is stupid. Get it from the company direct or SIM free from Amazon, etc. AT&T wants to sell to current customers, whether they are tying it to a service contract or they go month to month. No, in theory there is nothing preventing you from buying a Lumia 920 from an AT&T off-contract with a rate plan and calling later to cancel. You paid full retail. There is no ETF.

    Because the current crop of inventory is for current and new customers of AT&T, I bet stores are preventing people from buying the phones for $450 off contract and selling them for $800 on Craigslist. What's to stop someone getting their phone for $99 (or less) and selling it for $450 themselves?
    Who's going to buy it for $800? I think you can get an unlocked one (Rogers version) for less. This one's locked to AT&T for six months and you can get it yourself from AT&T for $450 with a wireless charging pad. And if the store's giving you trouble, just order it online (cancel the plan as soon as you get the phone) or just have a friend who has AT&T buy it for you at the no-commitment price.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBadGuy_88 View Post
    I can't wait until we live in a country (USA) where we could buy devices from phone manufacturers and connect them to whatever carrier we choose!! I've been in constant contact with Nokia and they apparently don't like money either!!!.. they won't even sell me a build 2012 version of the device that they gave away for free!!! Smh how does that even make sense? To be honest I don't want to buy the device from negri... I want Nokia to sell it to me for full price so I can use it on any GSM Carrier of MY choosing.
    Maybe as part of the exclusivity agreement with AT&T, Nokia might have agreed not to sell any unlocked versions of the 920 in the US. =/
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