- 11-16-2012, 01:10 AM #1
He is of a great and respectable figure i guess. However, he claims that almost EVERYTHING in the 8X is the BEST, including a separate paragraph describing his personal experiences with the 8X camera.
"The HTC 8X, as Iíll call it, is the only smart phone on the market that edges past the iPhone 5 in terms of sheer beauty."
"Long-time readers know Iíve become somewhat obsessed about smart phone camera quality. Iíve been taking photos with this thing since Monday and the picture quality is superb, easily the best of any smart phone Iíve ever owned."
"The HTC 8X runs the worldís best smart phone software."
"The HTC Windows Phone 8X is the obvious choice. The only choice. And youíll want one too."
"This is the best-sounding smart phone Iíve ever used."
Are you kidding me? This dude sounds like he's being paid by HTC for this review. There are so much inconsistency in his reviews. Sweeping statements such as BEST is most often avoided by reviewers. But this dude is using it everywhere. Kudos.
11-16-2012, 04:01 AM #7
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It is his opinion although I suspect there is some bias there, unfairly Microsoft shut him off from official sources for Windows 8/Windows Phone 8 and by extension Nokia. However I would agree the 8X is a fantastic phone, where Nokia wins in camera the 8x wins in sheer size and beauty. I do trust Paul, he is not a 'fan-boy' and says things as it is, thus Sinofsky didn't take a liking to him.
11-16-2012, 04:09 AM #8
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Got to be honest, the 8X and 920 are fabulous phones. Each with a feature set/form factor that will suit some people, and annoy others. I don't blame anyone for liking one more than another, and theres no reason why someone shouldn't prefer the Ativ S, 820, 8S, iPhone, or anything from Android.
Mobile phones would be dull if everyone wanted the same phone. Be glad there are soo many great alternatives.
11-16-2012, 05:17 AM #10
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Here is some night photos: Nokia 808 PureView & Lumia 920 in night mode | PureView Club
- 11-16-2012, 05:25 AM #11
We have two very strong "flagship" phones for the launch. That means you are going to have split opinions. Some people will just fall in love with the HTC design. Some people will fall in love with the Lumia design.
At the end of the day if he wants to like the HTC 8X good for him it is not exactly a bad phone. Just be glad we aren't getting table scraps for phone designs this generation. Even the Lumia 920 the build quality IMO is 100x better then the 900 was.
11-16-2012, 05:52 AM #12
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If he thinks the 8x is the best Windows Phone on the market then so be it. I listen to Pauls' podcasts and for the most part he is always honest about his points of views. I believe he prefers the 8x's form factor and weight over the 920. And as of right now the 8x probably outdoes the 920 in daytime pictures. Paul also believes Windows Phone is the best OS on the market which I guarantee you against everyone else's opinion that covers tech news. The 8x is a beautiful phone and so is the 920. Personally, from just looking at pictures and never having seen either phone in real life I think the 8x edges out the 920 in the beauty category. Stat wise the 920 wins hands down.
- 11-16-2012, 09:12 AM #15
Everybody has a view of the world and what they like and not like; which one can call biase.
I agree with Paul on the iPhone 5's beauty. It is stunning; way above any smartphone in the world.
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- 11-16-2012, 09:47 AM #16
Other reviewers tend to agree the styling, audio volume for music, and the daytime pictures are sharper. The Lumia 810 is in compariosn ugly, has Nokia apps, and holds a 64GB micro SD. Wrap 'em both up in armor--all protectorant in a fashionable wireless charging case and pop it into a Krussel Tumbla leather pouch and at the end of the day I think the Lumia better fits my needs. Or I'll wait until ATT decides to ship a CYAN phone
- 11-16-2012, 09:49 AM #17
Why is this even a thread? Paul is a tech journalist that, aside from writing articles based on fact, also writes articles based on HIS opinion. I can see why the 8X would appeal to him (and others). It's thinner, lighter than the 920, and some might even think it looks nicer too. And for anyone that's followed Paul the last few years this shouldn't be too surprising, he often likes to flip things around on his readers, who often disagree with him :lol:Apple iPhone 6 Plus 128GB
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11-16-2012, 09:59 AM #18
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I held the 8x at the ATT store yesterday , honestly its a beautiful device and the camera is more than capable. If the Lumia 920 wasnt around , i would get the 8x, my dad was with me and he was immediately drawn to the 8x and picked it up and he said ' this is a very nice phone'. Then he picked up the lumia 920 and he told me , 'now this is what you call a quality phone, you can feel it, it just feels right, and i love the screen'. He told me , he said 'son i would definitely take the white lumia 920' (he fell in love with the white, we went there to look at the various colors on display) Now my dad is guy who doesnt know much about phones or cares much about them. So interesting statements from him.
Dont get me wrong, the 8x is a nice phone and it will sell, but in terms of overall quality, the 8x is no Lumia 920.
- 11-16-2012, 10:02 AM #19
dat matte yellow... would look so good on a 920. I just hope dat matte Grey makes it to at&t in ~2 months when I can upgrade for 99.at&t Lumia 830 - a nice yet disappointing phone. No Denim, No Netflix - get your acts together at&t and Microsoft!
- 11-16-2012, 11:16 PM #20
Have not read this guys review, but being torn between the 920 and 8X is painful. Why? Because as a designer for over 35 years I think the HTC 8X is one of the most beautiful pieces of hardware of this type I've ever seen. I also consider the iPhone 5 and the Lumia 920 as beautiful designs. Holding them both in my hand side by side I cannot put the 8X down, I keep looking at the brilliance of the design.
11-16-2012, 11:44 PM #21
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1. It is a sexy looking phone. And it is thin. I wouldn't say it is strictly better than the L920 in terms of looks, but I would say it is on par. It is one of the prettiest phones HTC has released, IMO. Oh, it also makes the 920 seem like a mammoth in terms of weight.
2. 8x takes better daytime pictures. 920 takes FAR FAR FAAAARRRRR better nighttime pictures. If you average them out, I'd say the 920 wins because night shots are THAT much better. But for those who are taking pics in well lit areas 90% of the time, the added benefit of night shots may not matter enough. We will have to see if Nokia does anything to daytime photography. The 920 also blows the 8x out of the water in terms of video, in pretty much every way. Again, if you are taking photos and not video, this matters very little. I guess I would have to know what the reviewer's priorities are before I can judge if he is biased.
3. If the 8x does, so does the 920. But the way this sentence is constructed, it doesn't seem he is saying it is better than another windows phone device for this reason. Rather, it is better than an iOS/Android/[insert mobile OS here] device.
4. Ok, well, this is where it goes overboard for me. He definitely has some 8x lust.
5. The hardware does shine here. I think this is a clear point at which the 8x outperforms most any other phone on the market. Again, it depends on how much that matters to you. Is it ENOUGH better than other devices to sway me? If I listened to a lot of music on the go through the audio out, maybe. But I don't. I listen in the car over BT 75% of the time.
Just looking at the review, and not looking into the guy's background (because I have already spent more on the topic than I initially intended, LOL), I can't conclude that he is biased. I would say he probably weighs certain merits of the 8x more heavily than I would and he discredits certain merits of other phones, like the Lumia 920, that I would not.
Here is why I say the Lumia is the better choice (but does that make me biased? I don't know...):
- Wireless charging with a free wireless charging pad! (yes, VZW version of the 8x gets this, but AFAIK AT&T and the rest of the world do not)
- 32GB storage
- Usable in a gloved hand (this matters a lot to me in cold@$$ New England)
- Deeper blacks and high refresh rate (although this probably isn't enough to sway me much one way or the other)
- 11-17-2012, 12:40 AM #22
I have been listening to Thurrot since they started the Windows Weekly podcast. He is indeed biased but who isn't. He does however apply logic to his picks. The HTC 8x is just a design he loves. I am more practical and could not pass up the same exact phone, slightly heavier, and twice the storage = win. Its a no brainer. Oh and the free charging plate. If I just had cash to blow then I would definately get the HTC 8x because I could buy both :-P
- 11-17-2012, 01:12 AM #23
The 8X is a fantastic phone, but the 920 will fetch you a better bang for the buck.
At Rogers the Lumia 920 and 16GB 8X are coming in at the same price, and you won't go wrong with either one. However, and this is my personal opinion, you'll get more out of your money from the Lumia 920. For starters, the screen on the 920 is (IMO) a better package with the PureMotion HD+ and is loaded with Dolby-branded enhancements, I think that bridges exceptionally close to the benefits 8X offers with Beats. The camera hardware on the 920 is better than what's offered on the 8X, and while the 8X takes better day shots, I think Nokia will rectify the 920's issues (people are reporting) through a firmware update. Granted, people buy a product for what it is, not what it will be, but that is the strength of going Nokia - i.e. that company's eco-system support to Windows Phone. With HTC I feel as if you just can't be sure, but with Nokia you can be assured of getting exclusive apps, updates and good tech support.
That said, I prefer the 8X's slim and sleek design, I wish there was a Lumia with it (even if it lacked PureView and wireless charging).
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