1. Hiiiiiiiii's Avatar
    Counters app for Lumia graduates to Marketplace | Nokia Beta Labs

    Since Microsoft is being asholes and does not have datasense monitoring on all the phones, any alternatives?

    There was Nokia Counters but looks like there is no WP8 version?

    12-08-2012 09:29 AM
  2. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    I'm not really understanding any of this and don't see any sense in this, probably there is a lawsuit for someone clever in here... Because all these data sense and blah blah was shown on stage, guys using it, showing how cool it is with WP8 etc. Now we get supplied phones that don't have most of it and what we have is half-*** effort. Imagine Apple talking about Siri and then you get iPhone shipped without Siri but when you try and find out all you hear is "It's coming soon" - WTF did I get this brand new phone for if all the features you were boasting about are not going to appear for another 2-3 months! /rantover
    12-08-2012 09:32 AM
  3. Etyrnus's Avatar
    I've been looking at it like this, At&t scooped the top Nokia phone, and Verizon scored data sense as a brief exclusive. I'd rather have the phone, and with the my att app I can monitor my usage anyway. Personally the most I've ever hit on WP for one month was 75% of my plan.
    12-08-2012 09:38 AM
  4. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    In the UK, we don't have it at all - exclusive or not
    12-08-2012 10:19 AM
  5. Muessig's Avatar
    I've asked Nokia about this and they said "no comment" the other day. I asked for a good data monitoring app in these forums a couple of weeks ago and never got an alternative so who knows maybe we'll be able to find a good alternative this time around. Here's hoping! :D
    12-08-2012 10:25 AM
  6. Etyrnus's Avatar
    From what had been reported on this site, its supposed to be a short exclusive for Verizon, and coming to the rest of Nokia phones sometime in the near future.
    12-08-2012 10:28 AM
  7. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    How are these stuff that were shown as a part of WP8, not in WP8 right from day 1? Can someone throw at me an example of such stuff on any other platform?
    12-08-2012 10:29 AM
  8. Etyrnus's Avatar
    Examples would help, if your looking for specific cases. But the data sense thing was reported well before the phones were released in the US.
    12-08-2012 10:34 AM
  9. Hiiiiiiiii's Avatar
    I've been looking at it like this, At&t scooped the top Nokia phone, and Verizon scored data sense as a brief exclusive. I'd rather have the phone, and with the my att app I can monitor my usage anyway. Personally the most I've ever hit on WP for one month was 75% of my plan.
    US carriers **** me off, especially since it's no longer the #1 market for WP, yet Microsoft still bends over and ignores all other countries like they don't even exist.

    Examples would help, if your looking for specific cases. But the data sense thing was reported well before the phones were released in the US.
    I get 8 hours of free calls, 2k free SMS and 1 GB of Internet for $9 / month, therefore, I need to keep an eye on my usage, my mom especially, since she goes overboard with the talk time.
    12-08-2012 11:00 AM
  10. Etyrnus's Avatar
    Wasn't WP8 available for order in other countries first? I can understand the frustration completely, I'm not trying to excuse their behavior, just that we knew about this before the phones were released.

    And I wish my bill was $9 a month. Try $150 including a discount thru my employer, 2 lines unlimited talk/text and 4 GB of data. And my mom is my second line as well.
    12-08-2012 11:06 AM
  11. jimski's Avatar
    So now it's "Microsoft" who decides if you get DataSense on your "Carrier Branded" phone. It's ok to be angry, but please direct the anger in the proper direction. DataSense requires some background updating and data collection on Carrier servers. If they are too lazy, or too busy selling iPhones, you will never see it. But as Microsoft stated on stage, it is available on every Windows 8 phone. Carriers just need to enable it.
    Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express Pro
    12-08-2012 11:30 AM
  12. dula714's Avatar
    What if your carrier does not support Data Sense? I really liked the data counters app from Nokia, why cannot they release the same thing for WP8 and Data Sense can be optional?
    12-08-2012 11:37 AM
  13. Etyrnus's Avatar
    What jimski was getting at is datasense is the evolution of counters.
    12-08-2012 11:44 AM
  14. Hiiiiiiiii's Avatar
    So now it's "Microsoft" who decides if you get DataSense on your "Carrier Branded" phone. It's ok to be angry, but please direct the anger in the proper direction. DataSense requires some background updating and data collection on Carrier servers. If they are too lazy, or too busy selling iPhones, you will never see it. But as Microsoft stated on stage, it is available on every Windows 8 phone. Carriers just need to enable it.
    Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express Pro
    What? Nokia Counters can achieve that and there are million Android apps / built in Android function that requires no carriers support, we are talking about data monitoring here (as that's what Nokia Counters does, NOT data compression).

    And if you are talking about data compression it also does not require any carriers, seen Opera Mini and Opera Mobile? Works fine on every single carrier in the world, it does compress data. Seen Nokia x app for WP7 that compresses data / news, etc? Guess what, no carrier intervention either
    12-08-2012 12:32 PM
  15. dula714's Avatar
    I do not know how Microsoft screw things up like this.
    12-08-2012 12:38 PM
  16. mythra's Avatar
    Data Sense needs to be supported by the carrier.

    A Look at Data Sense on Windows Phone 8 | Pocketnow
    12-08-2012 12:46 PM
  17. sabotagebx's Avatar
    if youre with ATT just text that number and it gives you all of this information....
    12-08-2012 12:48 PM
  18. Etyrnus's Avatar
    I do not know how Microsoft screw things up like this.
    Microsoft didn't screw it up. This wasn't on any WP before Nokia. And its a Nokia exclusive, so at least point the finger in the right direction, Nokia and the carriers.

    Which its pretty much a nonissue to me, as I know to watch my data, and use WiFi where I can. I never had a plan with unlimited data, so I've learned to do it from the start. And even WP background apps have always used less data than their Android counterparts for me. I used to hit my cap or come extremely close every month on Android, never hit it with WP.
    12-08-2012 01:11 PM
  19. inteller's Avatar
    Appears Microsoft has given even more cards to the carriers to hold. What if ATT gets this, will it be available for MVNOs? I doubt it, and Microsoft needs to be concentrating on more carrier independent features. Stop giving these shysters even MORE control!
    12-08-2012 01:57 PM
  20. Etyrnus's Avatar
    Nvm...tired of pointless argument...
    12-08-2012 01:59 PM
  21. dula714's Avatar
    Microsoft didn't screw it up. This wasn't on any WP before Nokia. And its a Nokia exclusive, so at least point the finger in the right direction, Nokia and the carriers.

    Which its pretty much a nonissue to me, as I know to watch my data, and use WiFi where I can. I never had a plan with unlimited data, so I've learned to do it from the start. And even WP background apps have always used less data than their Android counterparts for me. I used to hit my cap or come extremely close every month on Android, never hit it with WP.
    You might be correct, but the general population does not think that way. And even if you are saying that it uses less data, Microsoft needs to advertise this fact and prove it. I have not seen a single advertisement on Datasense since it is a new feature of Windows Phone 8.
    12-08-2012 02:42 PM
  22. dula714's Avatar
    Appears Microsoft has given even more cards to the carriers to hold. What if ATT gets this, will it be available for MVNOs? I doubt it, and Microsoft needs to be concentrating on more carrier independent features. Stop giving these shysters even MORE control!
    True, I agree.
    12-08-2012 02:42 PM
  23. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    Isn't this true?

    Datasense = Msft
    Counters = Nokia
    12-08-2012 02:45 PM
  24. wheresmybeaver's Avatar
    I think it'll be a while before many other carriers support datasense, but in the meanwhile I can't see why Nokia wouldn't just update Counters for the Lumia 920. Fingers crossed.
    12-08-2012 03:49 PM
  25. Hiiiiiiiii's Avatar
    Isn't this true?

    Datasense = Msft
    Counters = Nokia
    Counters = WP7 Nokia only
    Non Verizon WP8 users = nothing for you
    12-09-2012 02:52 AM

Similar Threads

  1. What apps for WP8 are Nokia exclusive?
    By saintforlife in forum Windows Phone 8
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 02-02-2013, 05:59 PM
  2. No Kik update for WP8
    By UnfixedPyle in forum Windows Phone Apps
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 01-10-2013, 08:18 PM
  3. Is Nokia Drive getting upgraded for WP8 phones?
    By jkrc717 in forum Nokia Lumia 920
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 10-24-2012, 06:23 PM
  4. Nokia 900 for a FREE (well, $0.01), no tax.
    By cobo808 in forum Nokia Lumia 900
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 04-10-2012, 03:18 AM
  5. So signs point to no Nokia for US this year?
    By mmaman in forum Upcoming & Rumored Windows Phones
    Replies: 30
    Last Post: 10-10-2011, 01:48 PM
LINK TO POST COPIED TO CLIPBOARD