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  1. checkmate81x's Avatar
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    Hey guys, just needing a little clarification... I was told that my Lumia 920 would work as a gps device (like a garmin/tomtom etc.) offline (with wifi and data off). I believe the nokia is able to locate me offline, but then shouldn't it also be able to act like a gps and track me to my destination, or do you need a connection?

    Ps, I have all the maps downloaded offline when I tried this.

    Thanks for the help guys?

    PSS: just for fun.... qdoba or chipotle
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    Chipotle definitely
    But back to the topic, if u mean turn by turn navigation fully offline then yes it works with no problems. Took a road trip recently with no data and it worked perfectly
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    You can get location data without using "Data" services (your data plan). The proper question is "can you plot that location on a map without using the data plan?" And with Nokia, the answer is yes. Because you can download maps ahead of time (at the state level, or the national level - your choice), you can have the maps in the phone, and not be repeatedly downloading them each time you use the maps app or the drive app. So yes, you can. In fact, Nokia Drive has a setting (Connection) that allows you to take the app offline so that it won't use your data. Just make sure you download the maps for whatever areas you'll be using.
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    In order for it to be a true offline gps/maps/navigation, you need to download your local maps. Once you do that, navigation is fully offline once you go into drive settings, and make sure "connection" is in offline mode. Once you do that, it will be fully offline without consuming your data.
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    Do not try this in a country where your sim card is not supported. GPS does not work without a wifi connection for some reason. I got my 920 in the US and then went to France for three weeks. GPS would not work. It only worked if I was connected to WiFi. I'm glad I took my unlocked iPhone for GPS so I could put a SIM card in it otherwise I would have been SOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdhooghe View Post
    Do not try this in a country where your sim card is not supported. GPS does not work without a wifi connection for some reason. I got my 920 in the US and then went to France for three weeks. GPS would not work. It only worked if I was connected to WiFi. I'm glad I took my unlocked iPhone for GPS so I could put a SIM card in it otherwise I would have been SOL.
    this is so right don't know why , really disappointed !!!

    by the way I have been told that google maps recently can do that !! any idea ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabdoub81 View Post
    this is so right don't know why , really disappointed !!!

    by the way I have been told that google maps recently can do that !! any idea ?
    GPS in nokia (in old models and in newest lumia 920, 820) works without SIM card even. You download the maps of countries to your phone once and then remove the sim card and use it as navigation device. I used it this way in 6 different countries with no problems at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdhooghe View Post
    Do not try this in a country where your sim card is not supported. GPS does not work without a wifi connection for some reason. I got my 920 in the US and then went to France for three weeks. GPS would not work. It only worked if I was connected to WiFi. I'm glad I took my unlocked iPhone for GPS so I could put a SIM card in it otherwise I would have been SOL.
    This is not true at all. I was recently on a trip to Madrid, where my AT&T sim card was not supported, and the GPS and downloaded maps worked perfectly, including transit directions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dregur View Post
    This is not true at all. I was recently on a trip to Madrid, where my AT&T sim card was not supported, and the GPS and downloaded maps worked perfectly, including transit directions.
    Agreed ... I had christmas and new year holiday in Philippines ... Nokia maps worked perfectly OFFLINE and it catched GPS signal very fast (no internet connection, no data connection and no roaming) ...
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    I too was in France, 2nd week in January and the GPS didn't work offline, had to use up my PAYG credit to get and lock and Navigate. Good thing I downloaded maps for my In car SatNav which saved the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greycounciller View Post
    I too was in France, 2nd week in January and the GPS didn't work offline, had to use up my PAYG credit to get and lock and Navigate. Good thing I downloaded maps for my In car SatNav which saved the day.
    Are you sure that your location service was enabled ? - did you see GPS icon in an up row ? - did you try to restart your cp ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdhooghe View Post
    Do not try this in a country where your sim card is not supported. GPS does not work without a wifi connection for some reason. I got my 920 in the US and then went to France for three weeks. GPS would not work. It only worked if I was connected to WiFi. I'm glad I took my unlocked iPhone for GPS so I could put a SIM card in it otherwise I would have been SOL.

    The only way that I know of that this would be possible is if you didn't have your maps downloaded. If you haven't downloaded the maps, it will require a data connection of some type to acquire the map data. The gps runs completely isolated from the wireless radio.
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    Everybody can test it easily ... disable your WLAN (wi-fi) and disable your cellular data connection, then you are OFFLINE (no any data from internet) ... and check that your location service is enabled and you have downloaded a country map where are you just now ... and then, open Nokia Drive+ or Nokia maps .... if you open Nokia Drive+, it will state "looking for GPS" and then, it will catch GPS signal (green arrow) ... remark: Nokia Drive+ can be used online or offline (change from settings) ...

    EDIT: - it is harder to get GPS signal, if you are inside in building ... so you should go outside to check it ...
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    I downloaded my maps before I left in UK, then again via wifi in the hotel I stayed in. Used the phone with and without SIM card and yes, Location was enabled and GPS was active, though at times it took a while to find a good signal. My back up N8 worked very well as an extra Satnav device.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jari P View Post
    it is harder to get GPS signal, if you are inside in building ...
    It is impossible to get GPS signal inside the building.
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    I found that it took a lot longer to get a GPS lock when I was in Thailand with no data, but it did get there after about 5 minutes with no data connection.
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    Is location and GPS the same thing??
    Do i need to always turn on location in menu setting to be able to use GPS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by erzhik View Post
    In order for it to be a true offline gps/maps/navigation, you need to download your local maps. Once you do that, navigation is fully offline once you go into drive settings, and make sure "connection" is in offline mode. Once you do that, it will be fully offline without consuming your data.
    How can i set it to offline mode??
    thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by forzahog View Post
    The only way that I know of that this would be possible is if you didn't have your maps downloaded. If you haven't downloaded the maps, it will require a data connection of some type to acquire the map data. The gps runs completely isolated from the wireless radio.
    In the Drive version for Lumias, it does not work without a SIM card. Confusingly, in the newly-released version for other Windows Phones it does. I get this message on my AT&T 920 (which I'm using without a SIM card) when I open the old Nokia-exclusive copy of Drive:

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    Quote Originally Posted by futurix View Post
    It is impossible to get GPS signal inside the building.
    Really, impossible :) ... but how my Lumia 920 catch a GPS signal at my home as well as at my office ... :)
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    It's not impossible to latch onto satellites inside a building, but it is difficult to maintain that connectivity.
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    Qdoba most def!
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    lol you guys are funny.. GPS in nokia does not require a sim card at all, just take out your sim n try it.. gps signal does that awhile to locate.. use nokia drive 1st n when it get the gps signal then you use nokia maps. thats all Garmin are actually using maps tech lic from nokia.. and most of the GPS system are using nokia technology.
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    Maybe it can combine GPS + cellular data to pinpoint your location. If you switch off data, then it will rely solely on GPS, which is harder to get a signal from inside a building.
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    Seems conflicting reports abound. I tried this in Madrid with a 920 locked to EE (UK). My downloaded maps worked in the Map App, but GPS location came through. Really annoying.

    Any fix, as it's obviously possible based on others in this thread. Would unlocking help? Or local sim (with data turned off still)?
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