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    I smell fear! And before any apple boys jump on me my household is full of apple gear as well as pc's. I really hope windows 8 and Nokia succeed we really need more competition in the mobile world. I can't get over the price that they want for a new 32gig I phone 5, Instead of spending $300 On an I phone I went for the lumia and bought some Nokia stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davidkoh View Post
    a) A journalist is supposed to be objective.

    b) I've found that WP 8 requires the user to use their own brain to think, there are bugged applications out there which you might want to avoid to get good battery life. This is where most problems come from, people won't think and instead scream bad battery life when they would gain from thinking about what is making their battery life bad. Of course there are faulty devices and batteries but all problems won't be from that.
    I've experienced both type of battery performances, two 920s with terrible batter life and one with good battery life.

    You can put the blame on some apps, but I was able to restore my settings and apps from my original 920 that had major battery issues into a 2nd phone. THe 2nd phone battery life was great and could last me more than a day easily with the same exact settings and apps. After performing well, i pushed the 2nd phone harder downloading more apps, appsi didn't need and apps i did need with more apps running in the background and the 2nd phone performed just as good as basic settings. Now i get a 3rd phone, you may ask why i gave up my 2nd phone, i gave it to a family member bcause her phone bricked. So i get the 3rd phone, did a restore and not only did i get battery drain, now i get a rebooting problem with a phone that came with the "portico" update. An update that was supposed to rectify the rebooting issue.

    So in my experience and my experience the world revolves around, apps had nothing to do with my terrible bad experiences, the phone itself was the issue.

    5 of my immediate family members have 920s uincluding myself, 3 of them were defective. There is an issue with these devices, and coming from an iphone from 2007-2011 and never having to do a warranty exchange for them, i've experienced multiple with nokia's 900 and 920 within a year.

    So it is true, it is like a lottery, the chances you get a good phone and a bad phone is not so different.
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    Folks, stop paying attention to those contributor articles. These are just random guys writing from their home. There are several financial "news" outlets pumping out this sort of articles in volume to draw clicks. I know, one would think Forbes would not stoop down to this level...
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    My main problem with this is that it is a review that is running much, much later than all the other major reviews. When putting out a review this late in the game you need to at least acknowledge when your opinion is in the minority, for example in terms of the low-light capabilities of the camera. Almost every...single....review out there acknowledged that as a strength of the 920, and if you are going to out-and-out say the opposite you need to bring up the fact that you are in the minority and why you believe your experience trumps all those other people's experiences. Well, if you're writing a GOOD review then you at least should do that...

    In addition, there are lots of people also posting about having WONDERFUL battery life. Sure plenty of people aren't, but once again let's not forget that forums generally tend towards people posting about problems they are dealing with, not random "Yay me I got great battery life!!!!" posts. If it isn't broke people tend not to post about it. So, if you're going to tear into battery life you should at least acknowledge that it seems to be a very variable experience, with some users getting fantastic battery life and some getting horrible battery life. To not acknowledge that when there is plenty of feedback out there is, once again, amateurish.

    It's clear to me this was a slapdash/sloppy review, and was in no way worthy of being on a major site like Forbes. More and more I've stopped going to sites that seem to use click-bait articles to drive traffic. I like Google News because it lets me filter out by news source, so I've just filtered out Forbes. I'm not opposed to criticism of the 920, just ill-researched and constructed pieces like this.
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    I believe there was a poll about the battery life, 30% i believe said they had issues with battery which means 1 of 3 devices will have poor battery life. Of course, how do you define good or bad battery? It varies, but the % seems to be quite high and in my own experience, i've experienced 2 bad batteries and one good. I should be able to purchase a device and be confident in its performance, im about to go through my 2nd exchange.
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    As a new 920 user, I have to completely agree with his comment about "barely survive until mid-afternoon".

    I was (maybe will be again) an iPhone user who made the leap to a 920 at the weekend in the belief that it should be better than my iPhone 4. I managed to sell my wife on the fact this phone would be better.

    So far there are a lot of likes for the device. Size and weight are not an issue. Love the camera which is what motivated my move. Apps are better than perhaps I expected as my main apps are on present.

    BUT, I am completely and utterly disappointed by the battery life. I have done everything I can to reduce use (BT off, NFC off), making half the features worthless, but when it is used it appears to use the battery at a rapid pace (up to 20%/hour) and even 1.5%/hour when idle (overnight).

    This means that realistically you only get 5-8 hours use. Not good when a day is on average 24-7=17 hours long.

    And yes, I know that with a new phone you often use it more. But I am still expecting more. And is really bugs me (rude words omitted) that I cannot select 3G in the network settings to help me save battery power and make it last longer. Apparently you could as I can read about this setting, but for some reason AT&T have yet again done one on us.

    Annoyed, I am. I will see how the next few days go... whether the new batteries get better with a few cycles... but there are elements of truth to this article when you are a new user of the phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TK2011 View Post
    Folks, stop paying attention to those contributor articles. These are just random guys writing from their home. There are several financial "news" outlets pumping out this sort of articles in volume to draw clicks. I know, one would think Forbes would not stoop down to this level...
    Unfortunately Forbes has become nothing more than a tabloid. Nothing published via this source can be believed.
    Support your third-party developers. There just about all we have...
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    Quote Originally Posted by realwarder View Post
    As a new 920 user, I have to completely agree with his comment about "barely survive until mid-afternoon".

    I was (maybe will be again) an iPhone user who made the leap to a 920 at the weekend in the belief that it should be better than my iPhone 4. I managed to sell my wife on the fact this phone would be better.

    So far there are a lot of likes for the device. Size and weight are not an issue. Love the camera which is what motivated my move. Apps are better than perhaps I expected as my main apps are on present.

    BUT, I am completely and utterly disappointed by the battery life. I have done everything I can to reduce use (BT off, NFC off), making half the features worthless, but when it is used it appears to use the battery at a rapid pace (up to 20%/hour) and even 1.5%/hour when idle (overnight).

    This means that realistically you only get 5-8 hours use. Not good when a day is on average 24-7=17 hours long.

    And yes, I know that with a new phone you often use it more. But I am still expecting more. And is really bugs me (rude words omitted) that I cannot select 3G in the network settings to help me save battery power and make it last longer. Apparently you could as I can read about this setting, but for some reason AT&T have yet again done one on us.

    Annoyed, I am. I will see how the next few days go... whether the new batteries get better with a few cycles... but there are elements of truth to this article when you are a new user of the phone.
    Since you just got the phone, if the battery life doesn't improve in a week, go swap it out at your carrier before the return period expires or else you will need to do a warranty exchange.

    I have experienced a great battery life 920 so I know they exist, what im confused about how it is so much a hit and miss with these devices. I will continue to warranty exchange until i get one with great battery life.

    When i say great battery life, i mean that the phone doesn't drain pretty much at all on idle. I can literally sit my phone down for 2 hours straight at 80% and when i pick i up, it will still be 80% or 79%. I can let my phone sit at 100% and go to sleep and overnight, the battery will still be at 100% or 99%. Also, settings would be with 3 background apps running at all times, two push emails, skype, whatsapp, and a bunch of apps loaded onto the phone. The phone would last from 8am to 11pm easily on heavy use and on minimal use, probably almost two days. That was my set-up and the phone's battery life is what I considered great and better than my iphone 4 by far.

    So great battery life does exist, the question is, will you be one of the lucky ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shura30 View Post
    he's only telling the hard truth, i do not agree on the whole start screen part (because it is already a "favorites")

    but battery life, camera, overheat, hangups are serious problems nokia/ms need to address asap
    you may not have encountered them but if you had at least one or two simultaneously yuo know what i'm talking about
    Luckily I have not had any of those. My battery is great. Phone doesn't overheat and locked up 2 times when I first got it but never since. Never dropped a call either.

    I am sure I use my phone MUCH more than most people too. I am always on it (unhealthy amount of time).

    My only complaint is wordament hitches on EVERY Nokia device I have ever used. It stopped for a while after the last update but started again a few days ago. I went from 800-900 scores normally down to 600ish because of the hitching. I hope Nokia fixes that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by realwarder View Post
    As a new 920 user, I have to completely agree with his comment about "barely survive until mid-afternoon".
    And yes, I know that with a new phone you often use it more. But I am still expecting more. And is really bugs me (rude words omitted) that I cannot select 3G in the network settings to help me save battery power and make it last longer. Apparently you could as I can read about this setting, but for some reason AT&T have yet again done one on us.
    There is a thread about setting 3G only...
    Set 3G-Only on AT&T
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    Quote Originally Posted by MythicJee View Post
    There is a thread about setting 3G only...
    Set 3G-Only on AT&T
    Thank you, but any suggestion to go hack the phone using a field service menu is not ideal. I mean everyone almost c***ped their pants in that thread when they thought that the code to get into the FSM was no longer usable, and were coming up with workarounds like booting without the SIM in to change back to 4G.

    The option to select 3G only from a menu in the phone would seem useful for someone living on a fringe 4G area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkp23 View Post
    Since you just got the phone, if the battery life doesn't improve in a week, go swap it out at your carrier before the return period expires or else you will need to do a warranty exchange.
    Obviously I'm a little concerned my replacement would be worse.

    e.g. my wife's phone has locked up 5 times over the last 2 days. Mine none. Both with same firmware and setup the same way etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by dkp23 View Post
    I have experienced a great battery life 920 so I know they exist, what im confused about how it is so much a hit and miss with these devices. I will continue to warranty exchange until i get one with great battery life.

    When i say great battery life, i mean that the phone doesn't drain pretty much at all on idle. I can literally sit my phone down for 2 hours straight at 80% and when i pick i up, it will still be 80% or 79%. I can let my phone sit at 100% and go to sleep and overnight, the battery will still be at 100% or 99%. Also, settings would be with 3 background apps running at all times, two push emails, skype, whatsapp, and a bunch of apps loaded onto the phone. The phone would last from 8am to 11pm easily on heavy use and on minimal use, probably almost two days. That was my set-up and the phone's battery life is what I considered great and better than my iphone 4 by far.

    So great battery life does exist, the question is, will you be one of the lucky ones.
    Your experience is what I want mine to be. Sad that the manufacturing is so crap that all the phones are not working identically.

    Do you have the latest firmware update? Is this idle battery eating only the latest firmware?
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    This was after the portico update. Phone worked great before and after.

    Also, if ur battery sucks why worry about a crappier battery? A bad battery is a bad battery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkp23 View Post
    This was after the portico update. Phone worked great before and after.

    Also, if ur battery sucks why worry about a crappier battery? A bad battery is a bad battery.
    It is. So it looks like I need to replace both my new phones. (One is randomly locking up.)

    Wonderful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkp23 View Post
    This was after the portico update. Phone worked great before and after.

    Also, if ur battery sucks why worry about a crappier battery? A bad battery is a bad battery.
    One other quick Q. Are you in a city or out? I.e. what signal strength do you have on your phone? Wondering if bad battery is when the phone is further from the tower.

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by realwarder View Post
    One other quick Q. Are you in a city or out? I.e. what signal strength do you have on your phone? Wondering if bad battery is when the phone is further from the tower.

    Thanks
    IM in the ca in a big city with lte. I've experienced both a good and bad phone so signal I don't think plays a big factor for me.

    So to answer your question, im in a major lte city and have no lte issues where I live with the good phone.

    With the bad phone I had, the battery was bad in the same area so tower location was not an issue. That battery or phone was the issue.
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    "In comparison, the iPhone 5 camera did a good job under the same conditions, which I’m sure is also the case with the Galaxy S3."

    I think this sums it up pretty well. This so called reviewer in his objective review guessed that the S3 must do a better job but he actually didn't test but if he could he knows it must be better. But don't worry his iPhone 5 did well but we aren't going to show anyone the pictures just take his word on it.

    I hate drivel like this. It's sad people actually buy into this crap too.
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    A comical review at best.
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    The weight/bulk think is entirely subjective. I think it feels incredibly solid, and now when i pick up a galaxy s3 or iphone 5, i feel like i could snap in in half if i tapped it too hard.

    The battery life is something Nokia needs to get out ahead of. It's completely manageable, and many people on these forums have found that it's a software issue, the phone turns itself off with plenty of juice left, and until you give it a full drain, it won't know how much is really left.
    Curse this app gap!
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    Invertme, you never have overheating issues? not even with browsing and playing high powered games?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wamsille View Post
    Why is there such a negative connotation using the phrase "is heavier than..." when in all honesty the Lumia 920 does weigh more than most devices?
    It absolutely is one of the heaviest phones on the market today. I think that the negative reactions to reviews noting the weight are because so many of those reviews then state or imply that 6.6oz is too heavy to be useable.

    As an experiment, I put my 920 on a desk in front of our business managers and said that there was a problem with the phone. Each lady picked it up and asked what was wrong. I explained that it was too heavy to use and they both looked at me like I was crazy. One pulled out her iPhone4s (in a case, but not a giant OtterBox) and said that it was roughly the same weight. While that is true, whether the iPhone-in-a-case vs bare-920 comparison is a fair one is subjective.

    For me, I think that the Samsung phones (Focus S, GS3, etc) are too light. That makes the iPhone5 way too light. For me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manicottiK View Post
    It absolutely is one of the heaviest phones on the market today. I think that the negative reactions to reviews noting the weight are because so many of those reviews then state or imply that 6.6oz is too heavy to be useable.

    As an experiment, I put my 920 on a desk in front of our business managers and said that there was a problem with the phone. Each lady picked it up and asked what was wrong. I explained that it was too heavy to use and they both looked at me like I was crazy. One pulled out her iPhone4s (in a case, but not a giant OtterBox) and said that it was roughly the same weight. While that is true, whether the iPhone-in-a-case vs bare-920 comparison is a fair one is subjective.

    For me, I think that the Samsung phones (Focus S, GS3, etc) are too light. That makes the iPhone5 way too light. For me.
    I tried a friend's Samsung Galaxy SIII, first when she had it naked and then when she had a case on it. I found it to be too light and slippery without a case. When it had a case on it, it felt fine. It wasn't just the weight but the slippery feel. I had trouble gripping it, and my hands were clean and dry: no sweating, moisturizer, etc.
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    can i have all the fanbois take a seat??? the author of that article is not hating on the lumia. he's simply writing his experience with the phone. are any of the issues he listed invalid?? no, this is what many of our members post here as well. heck, i've gone through 3 920s and i've had 4/5 issues he's listed. still having the battery issue but i think i got it figured out (right now, i'm blaming the lack-of signal strength).

    idk how many of you received a 920 in good working order since day one, but i've gone through similar issues as this author has. the only reason i've given nokia/micro so many chances is due to the fact that i don't find any other smartphone attractive at this moment and i feel like nokia/micro is working diligently to bring out updates to remedy the problems. ie, the daytime photo seems to have gotten a lot better after the update was issued.
    Lumia 920
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    Quote Originally Posted by JConn_Lefty View Post
    can i have all the fanbois take a seat??? the author of that article is not hating on the lumia. he's simply writing his experience with the phone. are any of the issues he listed invalid?? no, this is what many of our members post here as well. heck, i've gone through 3 920s and i've had 4/5 issues he's listed. still having the battery issue but i think i got it figured out (right now, i'm blaming the lack-of signal strength).

    idk how many of you received a 920 in good working order since day one, but i've gone through similar issues as this author has. the only reason i've given nokia/micro so many chances is due to the fact that i don't find any other smartphone attractive at this moment and i feel like nokia/micro is working diligently to bring out updates to remedy the problems. ie, the daytime photo seems to have gotten a lot better after the update was issued.
    What the author did not mention at all is if he always used AT&T, or if he switched to AT&T for the 920.

    I have always recommended that people consider coverage first, not a particular device. If the coverage is lacking, the coolest device in the world will be nothing but a call-dropping, battery eating problem. That's what happened when everyone decided to get the original iPhone. Many of them found that AT&T's coverage was lacking, and they found out the hard way.

    It is much better to ask neighbors where you live how their coverage is with a particular carrier before choosing to switch to that carrier. I've never relied on the carrier's coverage maps.

    The author's issues with the battery life might not have anything to do with the device. It might just be AT&T has lousy coverage and another carrier would be more suitable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkp23 View Post
    I've experienced both type of battery performances, two 920s with terrible batter life and one with good battery life.

    You can put the blame on some apps, but I was able to restore my settings and apps from my original 920 that had major battery issues into a 2nd phone. THe 2nd phone battery life was great and could last me more than a day easily with the same exact settings and apps. After performing well, i pushed the 2nd phone harder downloading more apps, appsi didn't need and apps i did need with more apps running in the background and the 2nd phone performed just as good as basic settings. Now i get a 3rd phone, you may ask why i gave up my 2nd phone, i gave it to a family member bcause her phone bricked. So i get the 3rd phone, did a restore and not only did i get battery drain, now i get a rebooting problem with a phone that came with the "portico" update. An update that was supposed to rectify the rebooting issue.

    So in my experience and my experience the world revolves around, apps had nothing to do with my terrible bad experiences, the phone itself was the issue.

    5 of my immediate family members have 920s uincluding myself, 3 of them were defective. There is an issue with these devices, and coming from an iphone from 2007-2011 and never having to do a warranty exchange for them, i've experienced multiple with nokia's 900 and 920 within a year.

    So it is true, it is like a lottery, the chances you get a good phone and a bad phone is not so different.
    If you are gonna do any sort of comparison you should do it with no apps on the phones and you shouldn't restore it as that might cause problems. The test you did has too many variables to rule out software.

    There were some thread on the forums where people tested some benchmark app to see the runtime of their battery, it was funny to see that both people reporting bad battery life and people reporting 2 day battery life getting around the same runtime with the benchmark drawing equal power on both devices. That supports the theory that it is not the battery that is broken, it could be software that is the cause.
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