1. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I never owned a Zune or an Xbox.

    I buy my music from Amazon.com and also stream music from Slacker, Pandora, iHeartRadio, last.fm, TuneInRadio.

    Since I've never used Zune Pass, Zune or Xbox, I really do not understand the hype about Xbox Music.

    What does Xbox Music offer that is any better or different than the other things I mentioned? Why would I bother paying for an Xbox Music subscription when I can buy songs from Amazon.com and actually own them/install them wherever I want and stream music for free with the other services?

    I am not bashing Xbox Music. I really just want more information.

    How would Xbox Music benefit a person who does not own an Xbox and already has so many other choices for listening to music?
    10-15-2012 02:06 PM
  2. gzlesk's Avatar
    Its like Amazon music place, pandora and spotify wrapped into one. You can buy music, stream specific songs and pick a band or artist and it will play songs that are like it. And you dont need an xbox or xbox subscription to use it. It will work on windows 8/rt, xbox 360, wp8, ios, and android. You can also store them to skydrive and play them down from there.
    I mean if your fine with pandora and such thats fine. But one of the big emphasises on it is you can have you bought music and streaming music all in one place instead of 3 differant services, like your doing now.
    10-15-2012 02:14 PM
  3. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    So does that mean Xbox Music actually allows one to purchase DRM-free MP3s like Amazon.com?

    If so, how much do songs cost compared to Amazon.com?
    10-15-2012 02:17 PM
  4. theefman's Avatar
    I dont see the benefit either in paying $10 a month for streaming that you can get free elsewhere. You still have to pay for tracks you want to own so its not something I would use.
    10-15-2012 02:35 PM
  5. andrelamont's Avatar
    Consolidation.

    Like the above poster mentioned, all the service in one store

    * itunes match / amazon cloud / xbox music scan and store
    * streaming
    * purchasing
    - subscription services for local playing of music

    There are some advantages to having all your music services under one brand. Just like the other services you can buy songs from XMusic.

    What would make this service valuable is to having it work across all iOS devices, android devices as well as MS devices. So you will have effectively decoupled your music services from any platform. So I can buy music on my imaginary iPhone and pickup where i left off on my android tablet and still get access to it on my windows desktop
    10-15-2012 03:04 PM
  6. andrelamont's Avatar
    I dont see the benefit either in paying $10 a month for streaming that you can get free elsewhere. You still have to pay for tracks you want to own so its not something I would use.
    I wouldn't pay $10 either, but some people find value in that. If MS has scan and store services for music backup I would do that. I use itunes match currently and it doesnt work too good plus it doesnt work on my my WP7 phone :-)
    10-15-2012 03:05 PM
  7. gzlesk's Avatar
    I dont see the benefit either in paying $10 a month for streaming that you can get free elsewhere. You still have to pay for tracks you want to own so its not something I would use.
    Where can you get it for free
    10-15-2012 03:14 PM
  8. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Where can you get it for free

    Pandora, Slacker, last.fm, iHeartRadio, TuneInRadio all stream music free of charge.
    10-15-2012 03:17 PM
  9. cgk's Avatar
    Pandora, Slacker, last.fm, iHeartRadio, TuneInRadio all stream music free of charge.
    And you can select and download albums to listen when you like ?- Pandora isn't available in my country but I have used both last.FM and tunein - one is simply access to radio stations and the other allows you to select genres - the user control is fairly limited.
    10-15-2012 04:12 PM
  10. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    And you can select and download albums to listen when you like ?- Pandora isn't available in my country but I have used both last.FM and tunein - one is simply access to radio stations and the other allows you to select genres - the user control is fairly limited.

    That's why I use Amazon.com. I buy the song, not just stream it on a specific device. It's DRM free, so I can put it on any device or even physical media.

    I can't see paying to stream music that I don't own. If I pay for it, I want to own it and be able to use it wherever I want, including on physical media.
    10-15-2012 04:17 PM
  11. pavvento's Avatar
    That's why I use Amazon.com. I buy the song, not just stream it on a specific device. It's DRM free, so I can put it on any device or even physical media.

    I can't see paying to stream music that I don't own. If I pay for it, I want to own it and be able to use it wherever I want, including on physical media.
    I use the Zune service and love it. The benefit of paying $9.99/month is if you like discovering new music. I use the Smart DJ (like pandora) to create a playlist of random songs from the marketplace and all those songs get downloaded to my computer/WP7 so I can listen to them without streaming. It works out well and I'll usually create 3-4 new playlists a week and then if I really like a new song I hear I'll download it DRM free.
    10-15-2012 05:03 PM
  12. cgk's Avatar
    That's why I use Amazon.com. I buy the song, not just stream it on a specific device. It's DRM free, so I can put it on any device or even physical media.

    I can't see paying to stream music that I don't own. If I pay for it, I want to own it and be able to use it wherever I want, including on physical media.
    I'm not bothered and for the 4 a month I pay for spotify, I could maybe buy four singles - so maybe 46 songs per year - I could listen to more new music than that in a couple of days.
    10-16-2012 12:58 AM
  13. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I'm not bothered and for the 4 a month I pay for spotify, I could maybe buy four singles - so maybe 46 songs per year - I could listen to more new music than that in a couple of days.
    I see that you have used last.fm. I actually used last.fm on my PC before I even had it available on a mobile. I actually find a lot of new music via last.fm. Did you dislike last.fm or not find many new songs via last.fm?
    Last edited by Laura Knotek; 10-16-2012 at 01:31 AM.
    10-16-2012 01:02 AM
  14. cgk's Avatar
    I see that you have used last.fm. I actually used last.fm on my PC before I even had it available on a mobile. I actually find a lot of new music via last.fm. Did you dislike last.fm or not find many new songs via last.fm?
    Unless it has changed radically since the last time I used it - Last.fm is essentially a radio station - I have broad control over genre or "music like artist X" but if I hear a song and want to hear the rest of the album, I can't simply select the rest of the album.

    If I hear something on the TV or playing when I'm out and about, I can't simply select that specific track in last.fm and play it there and then can I?
    10-16-2012 02:16 PM
  15. palandri's Avatar
    I don't listen to a lot of music, but I have bought some music and movies from Amazon.

    The movies from Amazon can come with a mobile file that can be loaded on up to two devices.
    10-16-2012 02:25 PM
  16. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Unless it has changed radically since the last time I used it - Last.fm is essentially a radio station - I have broad control over genre or "music like artist X" but if I hear a song and want to hear the rest of the album, I can't simply select the rest of the album.



    If I hear something on the TV or playing when I'm out and about, I can't simply select that specific track in last.fm and play it there and then can I?
    You are correct. I've never been that interested in hearing the rest of the album, though.
    10-16-2012 02:34 PM
  17. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I don't listen to a lot of music, but I have bought some music and movies from Amazon.



    The movies from Amazon can come with a mobile file that can be loaded on up to two devices.

    I've never purchased a single movie or even purchased a single DVD.

    I stream movies and TV shows on Netflix.
    10-16-2012 02:36 PM
  18. shingi_70's Avatar
    I've never purchased a single movie or even purchased a single DVD.

    I stream movies and TV shows on Netflix.
    So if you use netflix why would you be wondering why people would be using a music based service of the same idea?


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    10-16-2012 02:50 PM
  19. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    So if you use netflix why would you be wondering why people would be using a music based service of the same idea?


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    Because there aren't any free services for watching movies and TV shows.
    10-16-2012 02:56 PM
  20. johnmcd348's Avatar
    I dont see the benefit either in paying $10 a month for streaming that you can get free elsewhere. You still have to pay for tracks you want to own so its not something I would use.
    That's pretty much been my argument for Satellite radio also. I have a huge collection of music on my computer and I can say, that for the most part, the selection I found on Xbox/Zune/Amazon/iTunes, et al., have nothing I am missing. I converted or have found digital copies of every album, tape I have ever owned and wanted to listen to. I have nearly 1 terabyte HD on my computer that is loaded with my music collection and there's probably a pretty good bit of it not available in the online stores. Try finding David and David's: Welcome to the Boom Town at any of the online stores.

    I'll load a few files onto my phone through Zune but I can't see loading up my skydrive account since I am 3G and the ability to stream really isn't good enough for listening.
    10-16-2012 09:31 PM
  21. AUCLABruin's Avatar
    Because there aren't any free services for watching movies and TV shows.
    Hulu and Crackle are some free sites. Sure, there are a lot of ads, and the content is limited, but for an occasional user if will do fine. That is why some that occasionally use Pandora are ok with ads because 1)it's free and 2) it's not used often. And heavy users are willing to pay for music streaming because they like their features (no ads, control of music, etc).
    10-16-2012 11:08 PM
  22. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    That's pretty much been my argument for Satellite radio also. I have a huge collection of music on my computer and I can say, that for the most part, the selection I found on Xbox/Zune/Amazon/iTunes, et al., have nothing I am missing. I converted or have found digital copies of every album, tape I have ever owned and wanted to listen to. I have nearly 1 terabyte HD on my computer that is loaded with my music collection and there's probably a pretty good bit of it not available in the online stores. Try finding David and David's: Welcome to the Boom Town at any of the online stores.

    I'll load a few files onto my phone through Zune but I can't see loading up my skydrive account since I am 3G and the ability to stream really isn't good enough for listening.
    That's pretty much the same with me. I converted loads of CDs over the years and have 2300 albums in my music collection.

    In case you're interested, eMusic has "Boomtown". eMusic | Stimulating Curious Musical Minds | eMusic

    I used to subscribe to eMusic, but it was not a streaming service. It is for actually downloading music that you then own. It had a lot of indie music at one time, but it now has a lot of mainstream stuff too.

    I canceled my subscription, since I was no longer finding enough songs I wanted to buy every month.
    10-16-2012 11:16 PM
  23. anon(1458)'s Avatar
    The thing I like about the 10/month is you can basically download a ton of songs free as long as youre a subscriber and if you later on deicde to buy it, you arent stuck with tracks on an album you dont like.
    11-20-2012 09:58 AM
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