- 11-21-2012, 01:14 PM #26
- 11-21-2012, 01:36 PM #27
- 11-21-2012, 02:42 PM #32
not to sound harsh BUT ya should have done at least a bit of research before buying an AT&T Lumia 920... beyond plenty of info all over the net about how the Lumia 900 from AT&T wasn't unlockable until the exclusive deal was over.
Rogers Lumia 900's were unlockable sooo I'm willing to bet the 920 is the same.
- 11-21-2012, 06:26 PM #33
That's when I set out to try to get AT&T to unlock it...thus the saga described in my first post. Even ignoring the fact that the 920 is an AT&T exclusive, it's frustrating that there isn't a single WP8 device available in the US unlocked and neither Microsoft nor any manufacturers will sell them to you that way (not even the non-exclusives). THIS is what pisses me off about carrier influence!
I will say though, this morning, just as I was about to leave to return my 920 to the Microsoft Store...I thought long and hard and I decided I just couldn't get rid of it. I've cancelled my AT&T service though...so I guess I'll be using it as a WiFi only device, at least until unlock codes become available.
- 11-26-2012, 01:57 PM #35
Unlocked Nokia Lumia 920 coming soon but no T-Mobile bands just yet | Windows Phone Central
Ok, in response to this good news, I've pre-ordered the unlocked Rogers 920 through Negri (unknown shipping date though-_-). Unfortunately, I'll have to sacrifice having cyan for black, but I'll manage. As an early adopter though, I'm still disappointed that there is such a delay between official release and release of unlocked devices...and I'm 99% sure that can be blamed on the carriers.
- 11-27-2012, 02:42 PM #36
Why do they make it so hard in the states?
I picked up my HTC 8X on the day it was released here in the UK and I bought it unlocked. Paid cash up front. Put my sim card in and that was it. Job done.
I don't understand why they make it so difficult for you guys over there. That would be pretty frustrating. I understand that the device might be an exclusive for certain networks but damn, it still sucks.
11-27-2012, 02:58 PM #37
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Btw, here It would be illegal to sell a phone outright and not unlock it. If it couldn't be unlocked you would be entitled to a full refund
- 11-27-2012, 03:36 PM #39
- 11-27-2012, 03:42 PM #40
If we as consumers had demanded (and expected) such freedom of movement between carriers, maybe we'd see more reasonable price competition and we might not have ended up in the LTE frequency mess we're in now.
- 11-27-2012, 04:25 PM #41
I don't disagree that it would be great if people could move around at their whim, but the U.S.wireless companies operate in a completely different manner than most of the rest of the world, and there are fewer options.
- 11-27-2012, 04:59 PM #42
My other guess is that they're just being massive d-bags.
- 11-27-2012, 05:10 PM #43
A pertinent analogy that I got from the Verge would be to imagine if all the car companies licenses all the roads in the US such that only Fords could drive on certain ones, Toyotas on others, etc. (It's not a perfect analogy but it's close enough.) It's a ludicrous situation...but so is our wireless industry. It's absolutely ridiculous that one person standing in a given spot can have no reception while someone else on another network standing right next to them has solid reception. This really should be a public utility.
- 11-27-2012, 06:38 PM #44
First off, I am sorry for your aggregation. There is very little about your post which I do not understand. I am a lifetime AT&T mobile user, but that is mostly due to the small burb I live in. Very few options (no T-Mobile, No US Cellular, 1 small regional carrier whose network is horrid, track phones, Sprint reception is amazingly bad) and just general convenience.
But that doesn't mean I am not wishful. Would love to pick a device and head to the carrier of my choice.
Too much to hope for LTE to bring this State side?
- 12-03-2012, 11:15 AM #45
Those who DO CARE will buy their phone unlocked(and recognize that by buying Off-contract from a carrier is not buying unlocked & thus realize an unlock code isn't necessary for the carrier to provide)...these are the same people who will buy brand new phones unlocked and import them from overseas for 600-900 dollars...and for them MVNOs are good. I have a friend who brought a Galaxy Note 2 i believe unlocked and he uses it.
Most normal people do not go...hmmm today i feel like using t-mobile and then tomorrow i want to use Straight-talk or i want to use H20.
I guess it does annoy me slightly when i see Avid tech fans and pros speaking for the whole world when in reality only a small amount of people who own smartphones actually care about unlocking them so they can swap sim cards.
the mindset doesn't keep us from moving forward because as stated above, those who want the freedom will pay for the freedom and those who are fine with contracts will usually pay for the contracts because nowadays most people are unwilling to pay 700 dollars for a phone that they can get free-200 dollars on contract even if it would cost them cheaper down the road.
- 12-03-2012, 11:34 AM #46
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