- 01-26-2013, 08:13 PM #51
- 01-26-2013, 08:14 PM #52
Seriously? iPhone has great media ekosystem? I have to say this - how can I get a MP3 file to my Lumia? Connect cable to anything (even my W8 tablet) and transfer. How can I get it on an crapPhone? Start crapTunes, load them, connect phone, sync it, add mp3 to library, add to phone, sync again and disconnect
Now a different story. I have a AVI video file. How to get it on my Lumia? USB, transfer, done. To get it on a iPhone? Spend an hour converting it in a creepy stupid format, then go thourgh that horrible crapTunes misery again and finally get it there.
Is that a sign of a good media phone? I don't think so.
01-26-2013, 08:29 PM #54
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You know, I'm not one to diminish anyone's bad experience just because I've never had them. I've never had any issues with loafing media (specifically music) onto my iPod from iTunes. Maybe its because I don't use the sync feature. I manually manage my music.
01-26-2013, 09:41 PM #56
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- 01-26-2013, 10:10 PM #57
Right now IOS is more refined. That would be tough to argue. They've set up incredibly tight integration across devices that works well. Can't deny that.
WP isn't to that level, particularly with its app store, but I'd be really surprised if it wasn't at some point in the not too distant future. The one thing that gets over looked is that this a war of attrition not instant cellular gratification. Of course IOS and android crush WP, in raw numbers they've been around a lot longer.
BUT, MSFT 's arms are long and pockets deep to be able to spend until they start gaining market share. Apples stock has been getting hammered and their market cap has slipped.
By no means does it spell the end, but it does say there is room for another player with the right strategy to make an impact at some point. I think that player will be WP.
Keep in mind the Surface Phone and Nokias next Lumia not too mention whatever HTC has up their sleeves. Devs will get on board slowly but surely.
I think the next iPhone release is more important for apple than the next wave of WP's are for MSFT.Make with the WP purchase already one time why dontcha for pete's sake. Honestly.....
- 01-26-2013, 11:55 PM #62
- 01-26-2013, 11:57 PM #63
I saw no evidence of that.
This was peak Saturday shopping hours, and the Apple store was crammed. The MS store was adequately busy but not very. I spent about 10 minutes inside and during that time 100% of customer attention was all about the tablets and laptops. The Lumia, HTC, and Samsung displays remained untouched.
It appears these sketchy articles about Apple sliding are nothing more than the same old sensationalist journalism as always to generate cheap website hits.
- 01-27-2013, 12:24 AM #65
IMHO, people that follows the stuff you mentioned lack a definite decision and purpose that they can't live without relying on someone else's "opinion."
01-27-2013, 01:40 AM #67
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OP's sister is in 8th grade. Most 8th graders don't even know there's an alternative. They think smartphone is iphone. That's what they mean when they ask 'why didn't you get an iphone'. It's not because they think iphone is better than Android or WP. A few who actually sees WP for the first time are often amazed by the fact that there is an alternative and WP actually looks very cool. My kid took a WP to school one day and she said kids drooled all over it when they saw it. And this is a 2 year old Samsung Focus I gave her lol.
College kids (and quite a few adults) are a different story. They are mostly insecure and just want to be seen "mainstream" to be safe so they choose iphone. I think things are starting to change a bit as more and more are willing to switch to Android and WP.
01-27-2013, 03:00 AM #68
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Go to Xbox Video, buy a season, watch on the Xbox. Stop, continue on WP7. Go to a friends house, log on to their Xbox, watch some more. End up at school, logon with the Laptop, watch some more.
All of the above still works with the exception of WP8, there is a DRM issue playing back Xbox video content on WP8 that was purchased on the Xbox. Though I am sure a fix is on the way.
01-27-2013, 04:38 AM #69
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Omnious: of course its crammed, its Apple. Im not saying people loathe Apple products all og a sudden, but that instead of seeing iphoned everywhere, now i see Galaxys frequently, and now that i talk to people considering a new phone, its not always automatically "iPhone" any more.
Yes iTunes is nice with your purchased-from-iTunes content, but what about my library of physical copies of movies and downloaded content?
Not all downloaded media is pirated material, BTW.
And as mentioned earlier, you get the same system with MS.
The iPhone has no advantage over my 920 for me that would make me consider it or recommend it.
- 01-27-2013, 06:15 AM #71
I would never get an iPhone because I know Apple are producing good products, but they are the most hypocritical company around. I mean, all of them are, they have to be, but Apple is just so much worse. These "We love everybody, and that's the reason we make products, it's all the love, not the money, love, love love" presentations just make me sick.
Also, the iOS interface just seems so outdated. It looks old, it feels old, it IS old.
- 01-27-2013, 09:32 AM #72
I once was an iSheep. I knew nothing of the competition, except that it can't compete with apple. I had everything apple. I loved my iPhone 4. Then I saw windows phone, and I loved it.
- 01-27-2013, 09:32 AM #73
Actually, you can get media files to the iPhone the same way if you choose although it is not automatic. For many people being able to plug the phone into iTunes and let the application do the work for them is very convenient.
One of the big advantages to the iPhone is the integration of all the parts, iPhone, iTunes and the App store. For young people, that, and the fact they are popular, are huge selling points - much stronger to many young people than any actual advantages or disadvantages the phone may offer.
For me, I moved away from the iPhone because I was getting bored with the OS and because I wanted a larger screen. That said, the iPhone is by far the most mature OS out there right now and the design of the iphone itself is very well thought out ergonomically That makes the final package a very smooth experience, and that is why many people continue to buy them - the phones are convenient and people generally know they are going to work well, even if they aren't the "best" in every situation.
01-27-2013, 09:41 AM #74
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I want a new experience and I don't want the "freedom" android give. Naturally there is small issue with wp8 before all stuff are fixed.
And I l like the platform but I'm little frightened over how Microsoft will update the platform in the long run. Many time I feel that they are slow in response when new bugs appears.
01-27-2013, 09:41 AM #75
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Windows 8, Windows RT, and Windows Phone 8 can all do this through the Xbox 360 with Xbox Video content using SmartGlass. The experience is very streamlined and allows for switching among multiple screens over WiFi. Admittedly, Xbox Video doesn't have the Blu-Ray add-on items, but I'm sitting out another round of disk-based media in favor of the distribution model of an Xbox Video.