- 05-23-2013, 06:19 AM #1
Just shows you that a company that releases a high end Android AND CAN'T COMPETE AGAINST SAMSUNG IN TERMS OF MARKETING BUDGET will still sell while Nokai barely sold 5 million in 3 months having dozens of Lumia phones in the market.
It took HTC only a month.
Nokia should switch to Android for their high end phones and produce WP low ends.
We are talking about flagship, 5 million * $600 = $3000000000 in revenue in ONE MONTH, one such device alone would end Nokia struggles and allow them to reinvest everything to innovation that would benefit the consumers
- 05-23-2013, 06:28 AM #2
Don't worry, the rate at which Nokia is falling they'll be switching to Android eventually. It was an asinine decision to stick to Windows Phone only. If HTC and Samsung can do both, so can Nokia. I've yet to see a single Windows Phone here in the 3 years that it's been out. I have seen thousands of One X, S3, Note etc etc. Heck I've seen the 808 PureView more than a Lumia phone, and the 808 costs nearly the same as 920.
- 05-23-2013, 11:59 AM #5
Judging by how successful HTC One is turning out to be, I can only imagine the kind of success Nokia would have had with a hero Android device.
- 05-23-2013, 12:17 PM #7
I really really doubt that HTC one has sold 5M in 3 months like the article says. I don't think any conclusion of yours hold until that number is proven correct.
Anyhow, Lumia sales trends are so clearly up that even Nokia can make bold claims of them. They will be way over 10M by Q4 anyway so why should it matter?
- 05-23-2013, 12:19 PM #8
Yes, let's throw away all that hard work and start over again. /sPhone History (hopefully in order): Samsung SGH-D407 > AT&T (HTC) Tilt > Sony Ericsson W580 > Blackberry Curve 8900 > Sony Ericsson C901 > HTC Touch Pro 2 > Blackberry 9700 > iPhone 3GS > Motorola Defy > Blackberry 9650 > iPhone 4 > Nokia E71 > Dell Venue Pro > HTC Titan > HTC Titan II > Lumia 900 + Samsung Galaxy Exhibit > Nokia Lumia 920 + Nokia Lumia 521 + Motorola RAZR V3xx
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- 05-23-2013, 12:36 PM #10
I am waiting to buy asha 501 with the new UI.. I will certainly buy high end of the new Asha software.
MS has to really up their speed and bring it equal to Android soon.. Nokia is losing because of that..
Come one.. ppls cannot change ring tone for calendar reminders.. My dad told that the Lg phone which he used for the last three years (not it is not android) has that feature. I don't know why windows phone is so bad.
05-23-2013, 02:12 PM #12
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- 05-23-2013, 02:38 PM #13
- 05-23-2013, 02:45 PM #14
HTC is doing so well they are on the brink of financial ruin!
5 million HTC One sales apparently can't help them.
DailyTech - HTC is on the Brink of Ruin as HTC First Flops, Employees Flee the Sinking Ship
05-23-2013, 02:57 PM #15
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I love the design and features of the HTC One but you would have to be crazy to invest in HTC right now. How can a company provide 18-24 month support when their execs are jumping ship daily. I have an HTC phone now, and love it, but I have very little faith that HTC will still be around much longer, 5 million phones sold is not going to bring in enough revenue to offset the astronomically large development/advertising cost. 5 million HTC Ones sold / 900 million android activations = .0055% of all android phone sold...
- 05-23-2013, 06:25 PM #16
The one risk for MS is that they must succeed in mobile because the future is heading there in a big way, and if their primary window into that market (Nokia) falls, they're going to have to basically start making their own phones.
UPDATE: Apparently those recent articles about HTC execs leaving are all coming from within their Marketing dept. which is where HTC needs to make changes. Gotta love those tech media outlets and their hype.
- 05-23-2013, 08:43 PM #17
- 05-23-2013, 11:32 PM #18
So wait let me get my math right.
Nokia's brand recognition with Windows Phone and their gaining marketshare could be better if they go into the sea of Android?
So HTC selling 5 million of the One's when they've FAILED at the HTC First and the under selling One X, V, S, and other lines is considered a win?? Their recent Droid lines weren't significantly stellar either.
But Nokia selling out of the 520 INSTANTLY when it was available on Walmart's site, appealing to an untapped market (prepaid and low cost smartphone users), AND gaining traction in marketshare is a fail?
Nokia is basically SAVING Windows Phone and is bringing ALL NEW MAINSTREAM APPS to the operating system SINGLEHANDEDLY. Where do you hear of HTC and Samsung doing this? They're NOT. So what can Nokia do on Android to make them stand out that's different from Windows Phone, and still remain relevant? I think they are FINE where they are, and instead of worrying about Nokia's "well-being", you should focus on your own, because believe me, they'll be fine with or without your help.
- 05-23-2013, 11:38 PM #19
I do not see Nokia being successful as an Android OEM. The Android market = the Samsung market, as demonstrated by what's happened to HTC over the past few years.
- 05-24-2013, 12:12 AM #20
Samsung doesn't equal Android. Samsung equals the whole cell phone market. Samsung is dominating every facet of the phone market right now.
If you look at their financials and look at the market segments, and if Windows Phone was a hot seller, Samsung would dominate Windows Phone too.
- 05-24-2013, 12:25 AM #21
Nokia has been getting $250 million per quarter from Microsoft since 2011. That's without selling a single device.
People need to understand Nokia was in deep financial strains before signing up with Microsoft. Not to mention Nokia has outstanding loans. It takes time to put a OS like Android on a phone and add in the software add ons to stand out. It took Nokia close to a year or more just to get Windows Phone devices ready and that's with Microsoft doing most of the work. By the time Nokia would've had a Android device ready, they would've been out of business.
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