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  1. Grizlyadams's Avatar
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    My observations of the ATIV S after 6 weeks of ownership. These are MY observations and relate to ME; YMMV and all that. . .

    Pros
    Nice looking if not outstanding
    Removable battery
    SD-CARD slot
    great screen
    large capacity battery


    Cons
    buttons - volume button could do with a little dot on to help feel it - for me its a bit too flush with the body of the phone.

    buttons - stupid positioning; volume on opposite side to the power button resulting in volume being changed when switching phone off. Net result over a few hours is that volume is left a very low levels. Missed calls and reminders. This is one of the most irritating things about this phone. The power button should have been on the top or the volume buttons should be on the same side as the power (like the Lumia 920)

    headphone socket - in normal use I put my phone top down into my pocket (so when I take it out its in the correct orientation for use) - having the headphone socket on top of the phone means I can't do that (like I did with my HD7)

    no audio DSP - seems like a glaring ommission. How can anyone make an audio playback device of any kind that doesn't give you audio settings (base and trebble at an absolute minimum)?

    no offline navigation - although this is now solved to an extent by Nokia Drive Plus and isn't really Samsung's fault per se. Drive plus is a far cry from the likes of Tom Tom or Co Pilot, on android or windows mobile but at least its there and is offline.

    SD-card problems - may be a WP8 issue, but this is my biggest bugbear with this phone. It has soured my experience of it completly. One of the two main reasons I bought the thing is the sdcard slot (the other being the removable battery) and its all but unusable. If I get away without sdcard "corruption" ** for more than two days I feel like I'm living on borrowed time until it craps out and lets me down. **its not corrupt just seems to have the "removed unsafely" bit set and the only way to fix this is have a Windows PC scan it. PITA.

    Slippery! - solved by putting a ($30!!) Zagg invisible protector on the back so it no longer wants to slip out of my hand every time I pick it up.

    Camera lense - this just confuses me in that I cannot for the life of me figure out why they built it like this. . . when you put the phone down (on its back as you will because face down is chancing scratching the screen!) the thing that protrudes the most from the phone is the plastic cover for the camera lens!!!! Why is this not recessed to avoid surface contact (like and HD7) and thus damage/scratching? Its not like Samsung have never built a phone before . . . are all their phones like this?


    Would I recommend this phone to anyone else? No I wouldn't. It doesn't live up to my expectations. That being said, I will stick with it in the hope that MS/Samsung fixes this seriously irritating sdcard issue and because there's nothing else with similar specs that has a removable battery (I find just having two fully charged batteries at my disposal a much better and easier way of dealing with battery life issues. It saves the usb port, hunting for charger, will it make morning with this charge? issues. I guess a Lumia 920 with charge plates at work, home, in car etc would do but that's a higher cost and not as portable as just carrying a couple of batteries.

    So overall, love WP8 but don't like the phone. Perhaps I'll try a Lumia 920 and see how I get on with that....

    -Griz
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    It does seem that all the phones now have the headphone input in the top of the phone. Coming from an HD7 like yourself i do find it really annoying and its a shame that HTC have followed the crowd and put the headphone input in the top on the 8X.

    I was going to wait for the ATIV-S originally but after playing with an 8X on launch day and then playing with a colleagues GS3 i knew i would find the ATIV too big to be comfortable after a while. Its good to see a review from someone thats used it extensively for their main device for over a month. After reading your views it doesnt seem like it would have been worth the wait for me, kinda glad i went with the 8x
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    >>no offline navigation
    Speaking of Nokia Drive, I just downloaded Nokia Drive Beta from marketplace, as I clicked to use, it simply came up with a message saying SD card unusable, and the only thing I could do is to exit it. Is is possible that I dedicate my SD card for video/music/images storage?
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    Microsoft and Samsung are teaming to tackle enterprise. Maybe MS/Sammy will add some exclusive business related apps to make the Ativ S more unique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyCori View Post
    Microsoft and Samsung are teaming to tackle enterprise. Maybe MS/Sammy will add some exclusive business related apps to make the Ativ S more unique.
    From your lips to God's ears, friend.
    My next phone...
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    What in the world is the problem with W8, RT, and WP8 and removable storage? I see problems all over the place with Nokia and Samsung SD card problems. And the whole RT situation with SD card. Is this a permanent issue or a MS dragging their feet? I was hoping to get Ativ next only for SD card support. Thanks for ruining my dream. 😂

    Sorry, didn't mean to high jack thread. Back to your regularly scheduled programming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by conanheath View Post
    What in the world is the problem with W8, RT, and WP8 and removable storage? I see problems all over the place with Nokia and Samsung SD card problems. And the whole RT situation with SD card. Is this a permanent issue or a MS dragging their feet? I was hoping to get Ativ next only for SD card support. Thanks for ruining my dream. 

    Sorry, didn't mean to high jack thread. Back to your regularly scheduled programming.
    Like anything else, this affects some users, some not. I have a 32 gb card in my Surface and run movies from it without issue, I have a 16 gb card in my Ativ, again without issue.
    My next phone...
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    I have a 64GB Sandisk micro SD card in mine and have never had an issue.
    Being in Australia, I don't have access to Nokia Drive+ beta yet, but Samsung AU did provide us with Navigon for free.
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    Navigon for free is awesome. Its 72 here in Europe! I can buy a decent dedicated satnav for that! I like the look of Navigon and wrote to them asking if there was any chance they'd bring the price down. No was the reply.

    the only advantage that I can see that Nokia Drive plus has over navigon is that its maps are also available to other apps that are installed on the phone. Other than that Navigon has better "standard" navigation app features.
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    Using a Verbatim 16gb class 4 for almost 2 months with no issues. Currently hunting for a good deal on the same card with a higher capacity.
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    I have the ATIV S with gel skin now had for 7 weeks no problems with micoSD! I have a 32GB Samsung micoSD card:

    http://www.telusmobility.com/en/AB/a...nskn1394.shtml


    http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/m...ge/MB-MGBGB/AM

    http://www.telusmobility.com/en/AB/s...product_review

    What micoSD card are you guys using that are broken? What is the brand name?
    Last edited by travisel; 02-09-2013 at 05:52 AM. Reason: add link
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    From what I'm reading, a lot of people are having issues with class 10 cards... SanDisk, in particular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freestaterocker View Post
    From what I'm reading, a lot of people are having issues with class 10 cards... SanDisk, in particular.
    I read somewhere that the red/gray 64gb sandisk had a high failure rate. I also read that before you use card, copy a huge amount of data to card to see if it gets hot. It will get warm, but should not get hot. I have two 64gb sandisk bought at amazon and have had zero issues running them in any if my devices. If the card checks out, format and use. If Nokia won't run them, I would say its a problem with Nokia or MS.
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    I like my ATIV....much better battery life than galaxy or any ios.

    Headphone jack and volume buttons are slight annoyances. I have a 32gb MicroSD that seems to work without any problems.

    Bigger issue for me is lack of apps, and although I'm sure more apps are being added all the time, none of the ones I need are.

    Looking for RBC (hey, doesn't matter what device, but if your bank doesn't have an app, it sucks!), Scene (Cineplex), and Waze would make it a better experience for me.
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    I used my brothers' Samsung 64GB micoSD Class 10 for a week no problems with Samsung micoSD brand! "Work awesome in my brothers' Samsung Note 2 as well!" 😁

    I own a Samsung 32GB micoSD class 10 with no problems! 😎

    So people before you accuse ATIV S with a micoSD problem it maybe the brand your using could be faulty or a bad yield problem!

    Samsung make's it's own 20nm memory and micoSD cards.

    Who makes the memory in SanDisk micoSD cards? Maybe we can figure out who has yield issues.
    ATIV S is LIFE
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    For everyone's reference, I'm using a Transcend 16GB micro SD card on my ATIV S, and it works pretty good.
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    I am happy with my Ativ S but agree the placement of the volume buttons in line with the power button is stupid and frustrating. In order to press the power button, say to do a screenshot with the home button, you need support from the left side of the phone. Am constantly accidentally pressing volume keys at the same time. Arghhh!
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    You ruined my idea to exchange HTC 8X to ATIV S. I hate HTC because of stupid power button on top of the phone. And I thought that Samsung will have better button positions. But volume level buttons, problems with SD card! Oh my goodness. :(
    I didn't buy Lumia 920 because I don't need stone brick in my pocket ! :(

    There is no perfection in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Adams View Post
    You ruined my idea to exchange HTC 8X to ATIV S. I hate HTC because of stupid power button on top of the phone. And I thought that Samsung will have better button positions. But volume level buttons, problems with SD card! Oh my goodness. :(I didn't buy Lumia 920 because I don't need stone brick in my pocket ! :(i have zero problems with sd card. Yes button placement is not perfect, but all still doable. There is no perfection in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Adams View Post
    You ruined my idea to exchange HTC 8X to ATIV S. I hate HTC because of stupid power button on top of the phone. And I thought that Samsung will have better button positions. But volume level buttons, problems with SD card! Oh my goodness. :(
    I didn't buy Lumia 920 because I don't need stone brick in my pocket ! :(

    There is no perfection in the world.
    All the WP8 phones that came out Q4 2012 are all first generation and if you wait till Q2 2013 second generation WP8.1 phone's are coming + Microsoft official Surface Phone WP as well. 3rd wave of WP should be around Q4 2013.

    I have the ATIV So awesome! Very happy coming from WM6.5 to WP8....bye bye LG IQ!.... Hello Samsung ATIV S. 😎
    ATIV S is LIFE
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    Well....anyone who doesn't like their ATIV S and wants an Android phone, let me know - I have a Nexus 4 I'd be willing to trade for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Adams View Post
    You ruined my idea to exchange HTC 8X to ATIV S. I hate HTC because of stupid power button on top of the phone. And I thought that Samsung will have better button positions. But volume level buttons, problems with SD card! Oh my goodness. :(I didn't buy Lumia 920 because I don't need stone brick in my pocket ! :( There is no perfection in the world.
    I wouldn't listen to these people. If the button placement is anything like the GS3, then it is by far the best button placement for a larger phone. Having the button on top is just moronic in my opinion, too difficult to reach without using two hands. I honestly think it is quite comical how people can press the volume button by accident when pressing the power button. The natural grip would be to have your index finger behind your phone, nowhere near volume rocker and the rest of your fingers should be below the rocker. While your thumb is near the screen. To hit the power button just hit it with your thumb. To hit the volume rocker, just use your index finger. Shouldnt need either thumb or index finger to grip the phone, unless you suck. Haha

    The Lumia way is also poor because you have the camera button, power, and volume rocker all on one side and placed too close together and gives you no space on the right to grip.
    Last edited by tomatoes11; 02-12-2013 at 12:10 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Adams View Post
    You ruined my idea to exchange HTC 8X to ATIV S. I hate HTC because of stupid power button on top of the phone. And I thought that Samsung will have better button positions. But volume level buttons, problems with SD card! Oh my goodness. :(
    I didn't buy Lumia 920 because I don't need stone brick in my pocket ! :(

    There is no perfection in the world.
    Interesting I'm not the only one wanting to replace the 8X. I just wanted to confirm has anyone had Sim Error? and restarts even after the update?

    Other than that im not too bothered lol I dont think the camera thing would be an issue for me I don't use it much and would have it in a case. Although the SD slot does seem a bit concerning anyone else getting a microsd problem
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    No SIM card error with my ATIV S, my only concern is the "Other" is now 8GB taken from me!

    - 2MB music / video
    - 2MB pictures
    - 2GB apps
    - 8GB other
    - 2.5GB system
    - 3.5GB free

    - 9GB used from 32GB micoSD

    I'm not sure what to do?
    ATIV S is LIFE
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomatoes11 View Post
    I wouldn't listen to these people. If the button placement is anything like the GS3, then it is by far the best button placement for a larger phone. Having the button on top is just moronic in my opinion, too difficult to reach without using two hands. I honestly think it is quite comical how people can press the volume button by accident when pressing the power button. The natural grip would be to have your index finger behind your phone, nowhere near volume rocker and the rest of your fingers should be below the rocker. While your thumb is near the screen. To hit the power button just hit it with your thumb. To hit the volume rocker, just use your index finger. Shouldnt need either thumb or index finger to grip the phone, unless you suck. HahaThe Lumia way is also poor because you have the camera button, power, and volume rocker all on one side and placed too close together and gives you no space on the right to grip.
    Your grip is clearly based on holding the phone with your right hand. Most people are right handed and hold the phone with their left hand. The only way to press the power button with the left forefinger is to support the top left corner with the left thumb. Unfortunately the volume buttons are in the way. Thanks for saying we suck. Most kind of you.
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