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  1. Rainar Angelo's Avatar
    4 GB RAM comes with the base model of the Surface Laptop. My current laptop running a third generation i5 has the same thing. Now, with all specs being high this could be defended and some might even say it is 10S so it'll run fine.

    1) What if you upgrade to Win 10 Pro?
    2) Why is there only one sensor for that pricing?

    I know it's a "laptop", but then why the high price tag?
    05-19-2017 08:57 AM
  2. Chris Knopff's Avatar
    Look at the Ultrabook category. Pricing is typically higher for thin client laptops. Upgrading to Windows 10 Pro can still work with the amount of RAM you have, but it'll be dependent on what you use it for. 8GB would be the minimum I would suggest for the upgrade to Pro.
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    05-19-2017 11:31 AM
  3. kaktus1389's Avatar
    I know it's a "laptop", but then why the high price tag?
    I bet that Alcantara fabric, SSD built-in motherboard, speakers built-in beneath the keyboard, PixleSense display and those thin but powerful batteries aren't cheap to make.
    05-19-2017 11:51 AM
  4. xandros9's Avatar
    What's the one sensor?

    Also, 4 GB of RAM is unfortunate for a computer at this price point.
    05-19-2017 11:53 AM
  5. kaktus1389's Avatar
    What's the one sensor?
    Ambient light sensor (so the screen goes off once you close it I guess).
    05-19-2017 11:59 AM
  6. Rainar Angelo's Avatar
    Light sensor
    05-19-2017 11:59 AM
  7. Rainar Angelo's Avatar
    I'm sure it could've been lesser. Point is they could've made it with 8GB RAM for the same price
    05-19-2017 12:00 PM
  8. Ayrton01CZ's Avatar
    Originally posted by kaktus1389
    Originally Posted by Rainar Angelo
    I know it's a "laptop", but then why the high price tag?
    I bet that Alcantara fabric, SSD built-in motherboard, speakers built-in beneath the keyboard, PixleSense display and those thin but powerful batteries aren't cheap to make.
    Exactly, it's more about premium technology rather than premium brand when it comes to a high price. And 4GB RAM should be just fine on S version of Win 10.
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    05-19-2017 12:09 PM
  9. kaktus1389's Avatar
    I agree, though I do see the value in design and there was a lot of planning done before they launched it (they had been building this thing for 2 years) and that wasn't free though. Also, they made some weird configurations with the Surface Studio as well, so perhaps they will learn from their mistakes since these are both first gen devices. Panos Panay says they always listen to user feedback, so gen 2 should be more mature. Surface/Pro also needed 3 generations to get where it's standing now. Many people were making fun of it when the first Surface was released, but look at it now - it's a huge success and other manufacturers look up to the Surface too.
    05-19-2017 12:10 PM
  10. Chris Knopff's Avatar
    ...Panos Panay says they always listen to user feedback...
    They do, but they look at trying to compete against Apple, not across all hardware manufacturers. What they're trying to pit themselves against is Apple.
    05-19-2017 12:30 PM
  11. Koby Mendoza's Avatar
    If I'm not mistaken, it's supposed to showcase how little horsepower Windows 10 S needs to run. The High Price is because of the extremely high quality build of the device and screen.
    05-19-2017 12:35 PM
  12. kaktus1389's Avatar
    They do, but they look at trying to compete against Apple, not across all hardware manufacturers. What they're trying to pit themselves against is Apple.
    I know that, it's pretty obvious since they only compare their products to Apple, and not for example HP.
    05-19-2017 12:44 PM
  13. JohnnyRedLight's Avatar

    2) Why is there only one sensor for that pricing?
    What other sensors should there be?
    05-19-2017 12:45 PM
  14. ajcletus500's Avatar
    I feel the 8GB config should start at $999 if they are really looking to spoil their fans, but again everything on the surface laptop is premium.
    05-19-2017 02:56 PM
  15. Ezhik's Avatar
    The lack of RAM makes me really upset. Even phones ship with more these days. And god knows you need all the RAM you can get with all these Electron apps.
    05-19-2017 03:25 PM
  16. Chris Knopff's Avatar
    I know that, it's pretty obvious since they only compare their products to Apple, and not for example HP.
    They don't want to compare themselves to HP. And even then, the HP ultrabooks have a high pricetag.
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    05-19-2017 08:55 PM
  17. Rainar Angelo's Avatar
    Have a look at the other Surface devices :)
    05-20-2017 02:45 AM
  18. Rainar Angelo's Avatar
    Considering they didn't have to make it a 2-in-1 and stuff I still feel they could've sold it for lesser. The pen isn't included either man.
    05-20-2017 02:47 AM
  19. Chris Knopff's Avatar
    Considering they didn't have to make it a 2-in-1 and stuff I still feel they could've sold it for lesser. The pen isn't included either man.
    It's not built to be a competitor against a tablet.
    05-20-2017 03:04 AM
  20. kaktus1389's Avatar
    They don't want to compare themselves to HP. And even then, the HP ultrabooks have a high pricetag.
    I am very well aware of that ;) It's the other way around.
    05-20-2017 07:27 AM
  21. techiez's Avatar

    I know it's a "laptop", but then why the high price tag?
    Because they are not looking to sell those 10s and 1000s, they will never want to compete with Dells and Lenovos.
    Its just for those who want this product at whatever price.
    05-21-2017 12:53 AM
  22. kaktus1389's Avatar
    Have a look at the other Surface devices :)
    It's true that other Surface devices have more sensors, but I can't really see why would a laptop have a gyroscope (I doubt it that people would rotate the laptop around while using it) or accelerometer. Maybe I could understand if you would want to have a magnetometer, but that's it.
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    05-21-2017 03:29 AM
  23. chain13's Avatar
    4 GB RAM comes with the base model of the Surface Laptop. My current laptop running a third generation i5 has the same thing. Now, with all specs being high this could be defended and some might even say it is 10S so it'll run fine.

    1) What if you upgrade to Win 10 Pro?
    2) Why is there only one sensor for that pricing?

    I know it's a "laptop", but then why the high price tag?
    Maybe we should look from chromebook's perspective. 4GB of ram in chrome world is considered as high end, since it's only running 10S. HP's chromebook 13 priced at $950 with 4GB of ram, intel pentium, and intel hd 515. Compared to that, $999 surface laptop is much better by the margin (4GB, i5, intel hd 620). Also compatible with existing accessoris by microsoft, touchscreen, and ability to upgrade to 10 pro are huge bonus. So it's double win.

    I would appreciate more if only they add a fingerprint sensor on it. Anything else (gyro, accelerometer) doesn't important in laptop form factor.
    05-21-2017 06:12 AM
  24. ttsoldier's Avatar
    I think it boils down to the user and his/her needs

    Windows 10s +4gb ram is good. Example, if I give my mom a surface laptop with windows 10s and 4gb ram, she will be content, none the wiser and safe.
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    05-21-2017 07:26 AM
  25. Nate W's Avatar
    It was targeted to 10s users (Companies deploying maybe, Schools obviously, college kids, other orgs needing it). So barebones on 10s is optimized for 4gb and whatever CPU I am assuming. I liked a post above, where they mentioned why a laptop would need anything more than an ambient light sensor. I think the fact a laptop has a sensor onboard like that one is awesome. My last owned laptop was an HP Elitebook 850, and had 16GB of RAM.

    I would love to get one of these, and I am banking they release an upgraded model...why is the RAM not upgradeable or expandable? Onboard RAM? I have no idea what this laptop is and only know of the backend story about 10s and Chromebook battle, sorry :0. Also sorry for the edit/spelling corrects...

    Edit: Also why would windows 10 pro 32 bit need more than 4gb?
    05-21-2017 07:36 AM
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