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    Came across this at precentral. HP might be joining the Windows Phone gang as well | Windows Phone Sauce

    What about it? Would you give HP a try if they came back to the smartphone arena? I, for one, would seriously consider it. My fave phones/PDA's from the past have been HP units. In fact I keep a Glisten in my bag for emergency use. They always had solidly built iPaq phones and the HX4700 was the absolute best during the PDA days.

    Before replying, remember this is a yes or no question and we don't need another hate-fest. If you hate HP, for whatever reason, keep it to yourself.
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    I would welcome a HP Windows Phone. HP has always made solid hardware
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    could be interesting to see. I would welcome it the more people on board the better. just hope they promote the phone if they release one
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    HP has solid designs solid brand but they need a new CEO who can refresh the brands image from a dull business like brand to a fresh new brand that really represents a fresh brand new ecosystem.

    I find that Windows OEM's are always missing 1 or 2 key features from making the product from good to great
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    I would be surprised if HP decided to attempt a Windows Phone over Android. Android still has a significantly larger marketshare.

    I can see HP's reasoning, though, given computer manufacturers' failure selling Android devices. HP may also not necessarily be looking for a smartphone that sells the most units. It may choose to manufacture Windows Phones just to complete an HP-Windows 8 ecosystem for businesses. This way, a business can order Windows 8 computers, tablets, and smartphones all in one neat, little package.
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    HP burned a LOT of people with Web OS. Unless they offered some sort of compensation for former Web OS/Palm owners - I doubt I'll shuck out any money in their direction. I really don't have much faith in them, and haven' really been impressed with their devices - printers are horrible, buggy, drink ink ( and then there's that whole issue where he printers were reporting low ink, but in fact were not), their laptops are flimsy and don't hold up well to actual mobile use. Just because they saturate a market doesn't equate to a good product.

    I think Acer is better than HP product wise. HP does have the money though and a long standing relationship with Microsoft products - so it wouldn't be surprising for them to jump on the W8 band wagon for tablets. Whether that will carry over to the smartphone device venue - I doubt it - they pretty much said they wouldn't when they nixxed Web OS phones.
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    Whether I end up liking what they put out or not, choice is good and competition breeds improvement. In all for having as many OEMs on board as possible.
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    Yes I would and I would hope HP leverages correctly to get in an exclusive deal to produce WP 8 and Windows 8 hardware for the sake of effortless integration.

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    The chance of HP turning out anything except solid but unmemorable hardware is low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentimentgx4 View Post
    I would be surprised if HP decided to attempt a Windows Phone over Android. Android still has a significantly larger marketshare.

    I can see HP's reasoning, though, given computer manufacturers' failure selling Android devices. HP may also not necessarily be looking for a smartphone that sells the most units. It may choose to manufacture Windows Phones just to complete an HP-Windows 8 ecosystem for businesses. This way, a business can order Windows 8 computers, tablets, and smartphones all in one neat, little package.
    HP was never about marketshare. If memory serves me correct, only a few devices ever made it to carriers. The innovative (for its time) but horrible H6300's on T-Mob, the Cingular HW6900 series and the AT&T Glisten. They have always been enterprise-centric with their mobile devices so your logic is solid. Maybe with WP8 they can finally accomplish what they meant to do with the Pre3 and Touchpad combo.
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    if they bundle unlocked WP8 phones with tablets I'll be all over that.
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    It would make more sense than entering the already oversaturated Android market where they would have to compete head on with the Samsung leviathan. Its a damn shame they bungled WebOS, it had such potential. :( I would consider an HP phone, I had an iPaq PDA years ago and it was very well made. It would take an incredible phone to get me to leave Nokia though. Another boring unimaginative gray plastic Windows Phone wouldn't do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socialcarpet View Post
    It would make more sense than entering the already oversaturated Android market where they would have to compete head on with the Samsung leviathan. Its a damn shame they bungled WebOS, it had such potential. :( I would consider an HP phone, I had an iPaq PDA years ago and it was very well made. It would take an incredible phone to get me to leave Nokia though. Another boring unimaginative gray plastic Windows Phone wouldn't do it.

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    at least it would probably have a keyboard since it would most likely be enterprise focused.
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    It really kinda depends for me. My first PDA's were the later H and hx iPAQ's. They were all great devices and had lots of options and benefits that no other PDA at the time offered. They were all also HTC built devices, back before HTC built branded devices. I never had the 4700, most of mine were the 2000 series. Then I moved on to the Dell x51v and still use it to some degree. Even it was a HTC built device. That's why I've been pretty much an HTC user, they always made a quality device, so I've thought.

    I guess it really just all depends on the device they introduce. I wouldn't be overt to another HP device. Om not really a Die Hard HTC guy either. I'll pretty much go with what my cell provider provides me, so long as it does what I need it to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMcD348 View Post
    It really kinda depends for me. My first PDA's were the later H and hx iPAQ's. They were all great devices and had lots of options and benefits that no other PDA at the time offered. They were all also HTC built devices, back before HTC built branded devices. I never had the 4700, most of mine were the 2000 series. Then I moved on to the Dell x51v and still use it to some degree. Even it was a HTC built device. That's why I've been pretty much an HTC user, they always made a quality device, so I've thought.

    I guess it really just all depends on the device they introduce. I wouldn't be overt to another HP device. Om not really a Die Hard HTC guy either. I'll pretty much go with what my cell provider provides me, so long as it does what I need it to do.
    What didn't HTC build? They also made the godfather of all smartphones - the original Palm Treos.
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    I don't see HP coming to the table until there is some serious synergy between Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8. I can however see OEMs getting a discount on Windows 8 licenses if they make and market Windows Phone 8 devices though. And since no one really knows how much the individual cost of a license is, other OEMs can't get angry about their deal.
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    Biggest advantage would be easy compatibility between phone, tablet, and PC, if they do it right. Imagine perfect touch to share from every device you have and your printer. :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky IV View Post
    Biggest advantage would be easy compatibility between phone, tablet, and PC, if they do it right. Imagine perfect touch to share from every device you have and your printer. :D
    Touch to share? That would involve another bluetooth profile and we can't even get file sharing or PAN. It'd be nice to have and make me miss webOS even less, but I doubt it.
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    It wasn't long ago that HP was going to sell their whole mobile division (tablets, laptops, etc) and now they are thinking about smartphones? I wouldn't mind having an HP windows phone on the market, but right now I don't see myself buying anything but a Nokia as my next phone.
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    Keep up that man, that was a stupid, boarderline insane decision, made by a man who hates hardware, and suddenly went crazy. HP reversed that decision for the mostpart, but the damage was done to the phones and tablets division by the firesale and messing around consumers and retailers, hence they died a death. WebOS development, despite half the development team jumping ship, is still going strong, with the vision to become an open-source alternative to Android.

    Considering that Meg Whitman still thinks WebOS will eventually become the replacement for Android (she fundamentally believes that Google will, sooner or later, make droid exclusive to Motorola, once the OS becomes a household name akin to Apple iPhone, to reap a return on their investment), it's highly unlikely that a. HP would go with Android, and b. HP would go with Windows Phone instead of WebOS. Whitman did state though, that HP would not make/develop any hardware in the future themselves.

    However, as has been suggested, if the synergy between W8 tablets and WP8 handsets is exceptional, then they may consider launching a range of devices, made by another OEM, but branded by HP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattLFC View Post
    Keep up that man, that was a stupid, boarderline insane decision, made by a man who hates hardware, and suddenly went crazy. HP reversed that decision for the mostpart, but the damage was done to the phones and tablets division by the firesale and messing around consumers and retailers, hence they died a death. WebOS development, despite half the development team jumping ship, is still going strong, with the vision to become an open-source alternative to Android.

    Considering that Meg Whitman still thinks WebOS will eventually become the replacement for Android (she fundamentally believes that Google will, sooner or later, make droid exclusive to Motorola, once the OS becomes a household name akin to Apple iPhone, to reap a return on their investment), it's highly unlikely that a. HP would go with Android, and b. HP would go with Windows Phone instead of WebOS. Whitman did state though, that HP would not make/develop any hardware in the future themselves.

    However, as has been suggested, if the synergy between W8 tablets and WP8 handsets is exceptional, then they may consider launching a range of devices, made by another OEM, but branded by HP.
    I'm going out on a limb here but I'm guessing you are referring to that CEO Leo Apotheker who single-handedly destroyed HP's consumer division in one fell swoop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatclue_98 View Post
    What didn't HTC build? They also made the godfather of all smartphones - the original Palm Treos.
    Yes they did and still IMO one of the best phones I've ever owned,still have my Treo 700.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattLFC View Post
    Considering that Meg Whitman still thinks WebOS will eventually become the replacement for Android (she fundamentally believes that Google will, sooner or later, make droid exclusive to Motorola, once the OS becomes a household name akin to Apple iPhone, to reap a return on their investment), it's highly unlikely that a. HP would go with Android, and b. HP would go with Windows Phone instead of WebOS.
    That's an interesting theory Whitman has. I can see how that would work out well for Google; yet, at the same time, it would also be rather risky. The other OEMs would definitely scramble and panic if that were to happen.

    To me, Motorola's biggest problem is its lack of a retail chain. The only place Motorolas seem to be really sold are in Verizon stores. If Motorola actually started selling devices at the other carriers, such as AT&T, it would have a better performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatclue_98 View Post
    I'm going out on a limb here but I'm guessing you are referring to that a$$hole CEO Leo Apotheker who single-handedly destroyed HP's consumer division in one fell swoop.
    You'd be guessing right. The biggest muppet in the history of business.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sentimentgx4
    That's an interesting theory Whitman has. I can see how that would work out well for Google; yet, at the same time, it would also be rather risky. The other OEMs would definitely scramble and panic if that were to happen.
    Hehe all the info here.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Register
    HP CEO Meg Whitman foresees a great future for webOS, the mobile operating system that her company acquired in the $1.2bn Palm deal and is now contributing to the open source community – and part of her reasoning is based on her distrust of Google.

    "I think that Android may end up as a closed system because of [Google's] relationship with Motorola," Whitman said in her keynote presentation at HP's company's global partner summit in Las Vegas, according to Channel EMEA.

    "I think there is room for another operating system," she said. "iOS is great but it is a closed system."
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    Without as much as a nod to Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 or upcoming tablet-capable Windows 8 – or, for that matter the MeeGo/Bada open source Tizen mashup or any other mobile OS – Whitman positioned webOS as the go-to alternative to Apple and Google's offerings.
    It actually seems as though Meg has distance HP from Windows Phone by simply not offering it any recognition within the industry. That's not to say she doesn't like it, and/or the roadmap hasn't changed, but I find the whole concept of HP releasing a handset running WP whilst WebOS is sat idle but with HP still investing money and resources into it, somewhat unbelievable. I guess her "distrust for Google" alongside her promotion and HP's ownership of WebOS is pretty much a final nail in the coffin for any idea that HP may release a handset running droid.

    However, it was suggested that WebOS will make it big on printers, not a bad deal, a few billion dollars for substantial losses (touchpad firesale) and the perfect OS for printers lol. :lol:
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