12-18-2011 01:18 AM
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  1. Peter McCain's Avatar
    please, can someone tell me that there will be a wp7.5 device coming this year! please
    10-20-2011 12:07 AM
  2. happynoodleboy's Avatar
    I am hoping that there will be something also. I am very doubtful though so I am looking at buying a trophy off of ebay and then using my upgrade to get one of the newer phones when they arrive next year I'm guessing.

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    10-20-2011 05:42 AM
  3. deadwrong03's Avatar
    Still nothing I'd like a front facing camera and a 4 in screen from htc
    10-20-2011 09:13 AM
  4. jfa1's Avatar
    verizon is still silent on specifics of gen 2 devices I suspect that they are woking with MS on an LTE model. or two. Given that ATT has indicated that LTE devices are coming in 3 to 6 months that or sooner might be VZN's timetable.
    10-20-2011 10:09 AM
  5. Peter McCain's Avatar
    after reading TIMN, I'm hoping there is a secret Nokia phone coming to Verizon. It would make sense.
    HTC and Samsung are making enough phones for AT&T. T-mobile has one. Maybe Nokia, will take the next big customer base, Verizon. and there could be a cheap one for t-mobile or sprint. Hopefully there is a world phone.
    maybe, too much hoping this, hoping that... Very excited about Nokia announcement. We will see.
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    10-20-2011 11:14 PM
  6. dlcpa's Avatar
    I am waiting to see what Nokia has for WP7.5. I want a large phone with a fast dual core processor, super amoled hi res screen (at least 4.3" or better), good camera and a front camera and able to use a bluetooth keyboard. If there is nothing next week, I'll get the Motorola Bionic or the Samsung Nexus. I'd wait a month or 2 but not 6 months.
    10-21-2011 02:28 PM
  7. palandri's Avatar
    Verizon seems to be emphasizing the Droid Bionic and their new LTE network. Maybe once a WP7 phone comes out with LTE they will add one.
    10-21-2011 02:42 PM
  8. deadwrong03's Avatar
    Doesn't the titan support lte?

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    11-03-2011 09:33 AM
  9. jfa1's Avatar
    It may be capable but its not LTE right now. As far as VZN they did have a team at Nokia World so it a possibility and Nokia signalled willingness desire to do CDMA LTE Maybe the ACE will be a combo release for CDMA LTE and LTE for GSM as well That could be a sweet deal!
    11-03-2011 10:48 PM
  10. jdevenberg's Avatar
    No, the Titan doesn't support LTE. It supports HSPA+ which is why it is labeled as "4G" on AT&T. I am also hoping for a Verizon (LTE plz?) WP soonish.
    11-04-2011 12:49 AM
  11. Umm Yeah's Avatar
    From everything I've read, LTE support won't be available until the Apollo update. I suppose that their could be some LTE capable handsets out before Apollo that will just become true LTE phones AFTER Apollo, but I highly doubt it.

    To be honest, I'd prefer to have 3G and WiFi and save the $100 surcharge that VZW seems to tack on to all of it's LTE devices. 95% of the time, I'm within WiFi range and it's typically faster than the 4G connection speeds. All that said, I'd REALLY just like to have a second generation WP7.5 option at VZW.
    11-04-2011 03:36 PM
  12. malachijd's Avatar
    Word over at pocketnow is nokia and verizon are going to announce a lte nokia window phone
    11-09-2011 07:20 PM
  13. wolf1891's Avatar
    Word over at pocketnow is nokia and verizon are going to announce a lte nokia window phone
    that (if it were to actually happen) might just be enough to get me to consider switching back to big red.
    11-09-2011 09:15 PM
  14. Umm Yeah's Avatar
    Word over at pocketnow is nokia and verizon are going to announce a lte nokia window phone
    The big question is what will be the lag time between the announcement and the release to the public? I'm betting Q2 2012.
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    11-10-2011 10:24 AM
  15. snowmutt's Avatar
    There have been several rumors of a Nokia 800 LTE for AT&T, and Nokia and Verizon have been buddy/buddy since Nokia world.

    I know high res Screens and Dual Core are slated to be supported by Apollo, but there is no reason in the world a single core WP couldn't support LTE with the hardware standards Microsoft has in place for Mango. All 1st gen LTE on Verizon were single core. Q2 LTE for Windows makes sense.
    11-10-2011 05:29 PM
  16. Premium1's Avatar
    From everything I've read, LTE support won't be available until the Apollo update. I suppose that their could be some LTE capable handsets out before Apollo that will just become true LTE phones AFTER Apollo, but I highly doubt it.

    To be honest, I'd prefer to have 3G and WiFi and save the $100 surcharge that VZW seems to tack on to all of it's LTE devices. 95% of the time, I'm within WiFi range and it's typically faster than the 4G connection speeds. All that said, I'd REALLY just like to have a second generation WP7.5 option at VZW.
    The only thing is verizon seems to be going away from 3g phones and wanting everyone to move to lte phones and starting to offer less and less choices. I think the prices will start decreasing since at&t is starting to roll out their own lte and phones are much cheaper. Competition is a good thing=)
    11-12-2011 10:07 PM
  17. Umm Yeah's Avatar
    The only thing is verizon seems to be going away from 3g phones and wanting everyone to move to lte phones and starting to offer less and less choices. I think the prices will start decreasing since at&t is starting to roll out their own lte and phones are much cheaper. Competition is a good thing=)
    Except that AT&T's LTE network isn't compatible with Verizon's. So as long as Verizon feels their network is better than AT&T's (which, for better or worse, it is in most places), they will not feel like they are competing. They will see having access to their LTE network as a premium that deserves a premium price for phones that can access it. Verizon wants everyone to move to LTE because it puts less strain on their 3G networks so that iPhone users (who typically consume more data than other smartphone users) won't feel bandwidth constraints.

    Trust me, Verizon is using the transition to LTE as a way to move beyond the $199 price point psychological barrier so they can charge more for phones going forward. Until the US begins to operate like they do in many European countries where the purchase of the phone doesn't have to occur at the carrier's stores, competition will be limited artificially by these vertically integrated "mini-monopolies".
    11-13-2011 05:07 PM
  18. Premium1's Avatar
    Except that AT&T's LTE network isn't compatible with Verizon's. So as long as Verizon feels their network is better than AT&T's (which, for better or worse, it is in most places), they will not feel like they are competing. They will see having access to their LTE network as a premium that deserves a premium price for phones that can access it. Verizon wants everyone to move to LTE because it puts less strain on their 3G networks so that iPhone users (who typically consume more data than other smartphone users) won't feel bandwidth constraints.

    Trust me, Verizon is using the transition to LTE as a way to move beyond the $199 price point psychological barrier so they can charge more for phones going forward. Until the US begins to operate like they do in many European countries where the purchase of the phone doesn't have to occur at the carrier's stores, competition will be limited artificially by these vertically integrated "mini-monopolies".
    I never said the two were compatible. What I said is they are no longer the only provider with an lte network in the US which is still the case. People are going to look and see at&t lte phones being cheaper and ask why is this cheaper when they are the same type of networks and both will be just as fast. Plus you are wrong the iphone uses less data than android, been proven various times and on various sites. Android Smartphones Consume More Data. Here’s Why. — Tech News and Analysis
    11-13-2011 07:01 PM
  19. jdevenberg's Avatar
    I'm Bettina q1 launch for Nokia lte windows phones, Nokia is being aggressive in getting devices to market
    11-13-2011 08:20 PM
  20. WayCool's Avatar
    No freakin way VZW can test and release a phone that to this point is non-existant by Q1 2012... I'm just say'n.

    1. VZW is arrogant
    2. VZW hates MS
    3. VZW is SLOW w/horrible testing
    4 . VZW has no reason to change from Android (cheap phone crappy OS but they dont care its about selling expensive data plans)
    5. see #1

    Screw VZW.

    Have no use for VZW... only going to get worse with charges and price of phones... see item #1
    11-14-2011 12:12 PM
  21. Umm Yeah's Avatar
    I never said the two were compatible. What I said is they are no longer the only provider with an lte network in the US which is still the case. People are going to look and see at&t lte phones being cheaper and ask why is this cheaper when they are the same type of networks and both will be just as fast. Plus you are wrong the iphone uses less data than android, been proven various times and on various sites. Android Smartphones Consume More Data. Heres Why. — Tech News and Analysis
    You are correct about iPhone usage vs. Android. I know I read a study but it may be out of date and everything I can find agrees with you.

    That said, I still don't see AT&T as serious competition for a lot of folks. Some people, like me, can't change from Verizon due to business limitations. Others, like most cities in the US from survey after survey, get better reception from Verizon. I see great WP7 phone after great WP7 phone on AT&T and I have no desire to switch because only Verizon works in the tunnels of the Metro system here in DC and even outside, AT&T's coverage is bad. Indoors, is almost non-existent. So if AT&T gets their LTE network working as well and consistently as they had their GSM network running, I'll still hold on to Verizon. And I say that as a former AT&T GSM guy.
    11-14-2011 07:49 PM
  22. Premium1's Avatar
    So is verizon going to get screwed again with wp7 phones?
    11-20-2011 06:53 PM
  23. jfa1's Avatar
    So is verizon going to get screwed again with wp7 phones?
    If VZN is getting screwed on Windows Phone they are doing it too themselves. If a carrier wants windows phones theyt can get windows phone by showing enouh interest in it to commit resources for the product (show MS the Money and show it to the OEM and it will get done then en they have to commit to selling them in order to make back the money they gave MS for licensing and OEM for cranking them out. Unless and until that happens VZN is Dead in the Water and its their fault not anyone elses. I suspect that they are in discussions with Nokia as they had a team at Nokia World.
    Last edited by jfa1; 12-05-2011 at 12:49 PM.
    11-21-2011 08:36 PM
  24. jfa1's Avatar
    You are correct about iPhone usage vs. Android. I know I read a study but it may be out of date and everything I can find agrees with you.

    That said, I still don't see AT&T as serious competition for a lot of folks. Some people, like me, can't change from Verizon due to business limitations. Others, like most cities in the US from survey after survey, get better reception from Verizon. I see great WP7 phone after great WP7 phone on AT&T and I have no desire to switch because only Verizon works in the tunnels of the Metro system here in DC and even outside, AT&T's coverage is bad. Indoors, is almost non-existent. So if AT&T gets their LTE network working as well and consistently as they had their GSM network running, I'll still hold on to Verizon. And I say that as a former AT&T GSM guy.
    I have great service here with ATT VZN here is the former Alltel and the service is better than Sprint but I am happy with ATT and have been with them for 14 years or so. I doubt I will switch for any reason to VZN Just my preference and likes.
    11-21-2011 08:39 PM
  25. palandri's Avatar
    It really depends on where you are. Before the iPhone, AT&T had some really bad spots in Chicago. I could pin point them. They made a lot of improvements after they started selling the iPhone here.

    In Chicago, the only wireless service in the tunnels of the L was AT&T and T-Mobile.

    Like I said, it depends on where you are.
    11-21-2011 10:20 PM
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