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  1. Android_Al's Avatar
    Can we cut through all the BS and just state definitively, on this thread, whether the Lumia 800 or 900 will be coming to Tmo?

    Been looking through a bunch of threads and I'm seeing a lot of No's but also some Maybe's.

    What's the verdict? If if neither is coming, are you going to settle for a Lumia 710, wait until another WP7 device comes out, or just buy an Android?
    01-15-2012 11:15 AM
  2. GekkoAce's Avatar
    The 900 is going to be an exclusive to At&t, so definitely is NOT going to T-Mobile.

    I haven't seen anything, but I doubt the 800 will be coming to T-Mobile either. T-Mobile is pushing the cheaper WP's like the Radar and the 710.
    01-15-2012 12:08 PM
  3. gwydionjhr's Avatar
    According to Mr. Thurrott's page. AT&T has a 45 day exclusing window, after that, it can go to other carriers, and might even sport a 12MP camera when it does.

    WinSuperSite
    01-15-2012 12:47 PM
  4. Android_Al's Avatar
    According to Mr. Thurrott's page. AT&T has a 45 day exclusing window, after that, it can go to other carriers, and might even sport a 12MP camera when it does.

    WinSuperSite
    so should i just settle for a 710?
    01-15-2012 06:36 PM
  5. Winterfang's Avatar
    I won't settle for anything less than a Nokia 900. I have t-mobile in my eyes but I don't care for the radar or lumia 710. Those are just the lame cousins of the Lumia 900 and Titan II. T-mobile should be ashamed of having such lame phones.
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    01-15-2012 07:09 PM
  6. Premium1's Avatar
    The 900 is going to be an exclusive to At&t, so definitely is NOT going to T-Mobile.

    I haven't seen anything, but I doubt the 800 will be coming to T-Mobile either. T-Mobile is pushing the cheaper WP's like the Radar and the 710.
    Not exclusive forever. People really think one phone is exclusive forever. Smh
    01-15-2012 07:28 PM
  7. Premium1's Avatar
    I won't settle for anything less than a Nokia 900. I have t-mobile in my eyes but I don't care for the radar or lumia 710. Those are just the lame cousins of the Lumia 900 and Titan II. T-mobile should be ashamed of having such lame phones.
    You get what you pay for with tmo. Low end network, low end phones.
    01-15-2012 07:30 PM
  8. Winterfang's Avatar
    You get what you pay for with tmo. Low end network, low end phones.
    I wouldn't consider the Galaxy S II and HTC Amaze to be low end. They are as good as their Vivid and Skyrocket counterparts.
    01-15-2012 07:43 PM
  9. Premium1's Avatar
    I wouldn't consider the Galaxy S II and HTC Amaze to be low end. They are as good as their Vivid and Skyrocket counterparts.
    I meant wp7 wise. Tmo has always had good android offerings since they were the first to support it back in the day.
    01-15-2012 07:47 PM
  10. Winterfang's Avatar
    Oh yeah, WP7 wise is pretty bad. I mean it could be worse you could be stuck with the Trophy a phone with zero selling point.
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    01-15-2012 07:48 PM
  11. theefman's Avatar
    I meant wp7 wise. Tmo has always had good android offerings since they were the first to support it back in the day.
    So why label them as a low end carrier just because they don't have any high end WP7's at the moment? They provide value, and repeated tests have put their data network on par with the others and they have great customer support, qualities not always found in the "premier" carriers. Lets just stop vilifying Tmo, I am with them and certainly wish they had higher end WP7 devices but at least they have 2 new devices and chances are they will be the ones to pick up the next high end WP7.
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    01-16-2012 01:35 AM
  12. wolf1891's Avatar
    You get what you pay for with tmo. Low end network, low end phones.
    Okay, generally I ignore yout posts around here but, this one just HAD to be responded to...

    First off, low end phones? The DVP was most definitely NOT a low end phone (troubled perhaps, but not low end), and neither was the HD7. Two solid 1st gen WP7 offerings that were initially only available from T-Mobile. Now, as for these gen 1.5 offerings that they are going with so far... I will admit to being rather dissapointed that the nicest phones are all going to AT+T for now and only the mid-range phones are being offered by T-Mobile (still hoping for more though).

    As for the network being low end... WTF are you talking about? I've been quite impressed with T-Mobile's network (and this is coming from someone who was with Verizon for over 10 yrs). Good signal, fewer dropped calls than I was managing with big red, better support and cust svc too.
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    01-16-2012 08:49 AM
  13. Premium1's Avatar
    Okay, generally I ignore yout posts around here but, this one just HAD to be responded to...
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    As for the network being low end... WTF are you talking about? I've been quite impressed with T-Mobile's network (and this is coming from someone who was with Verizon for over 10 yrs). Good signal, fewer dropped calls than I was managing with big red, better support and cust svc too.
    Well you are one of the lucky ones then. I travel a lot and know multiple people with tmo and more often then not when I have service with verizon they have no service with tmo. And these were big areas we were in. So congrats if you get good coverage with them just most do not.
    01-16-2012 10:09 AM
  14. Premium1's Avatar
    So why label them as a low end carrier just because they don't have any high end WP7's at the moment? They provide value, and repeated tests have put their data network on par with the others and they have great customer support, qualities not always found in the "premier" carriers. Lets just stop vilifying Tmo, I am with them and certainly wish they had higher end WP7 devices but at least they have 2 new devices and chances are they will be the ones to pick up the next high end WP7.
    Coverage wise they are low end.
    01-16-2012 10:10 AM
  15. wolf1891's Avatar
    Well you are one of the lucky ones then. I travel a lot and know multiple people with tmo and more often then not when I have service with verizon they have no service with tmo. And these were big areas we were in. So congrats if you get good coverage with them just most do not.
    I like how you ignored the part of my post where I addressed your comments regarding their "low end" phones. would that be your way of acknowledging your erroneous statement without actually having to admit it publicly?

    I travel a fair amount as well, and I know more than a few other T-Mobile customers, all of whom are pretty satisfied with the network. In my area AT+T has some odd coverage issues (small, random gaps with no signal at all) and I've talked to people with AT+T phones who are very annoyed by that so, using your logic perhaps I should be making broad generalizations about AT+T's "low end network"?
    01-16-2012 11:45 AM
  16. N8ter's Avatar
    I like how you ignored the part of my post where I addressed your comments regarding their "low end" phones. would that be your way of acknowledging your erroneous statement without actually having to admit it publicly?

    I travel a fair amount as well, and I know more than a few other T-Mobile customers, all of whom are pretty satisfied with the network. In my area AT+T has some odd coverage issues (small, random gaps with no signal at all) and I've talked to people with AT+T phones who are very annoyed by that so, using your logic perhaps I should be making broad generalizations about AT+T's "low end network"?
    T-Mobile 3G Here - Obviously a full signal so I know my coverage is good. The coverage all around here is excellent, but the speed is TERRIBLE.



    I don't think any T-Mobile user should be talking about AT&T's network, which is 10th generation compared to T-Mobile's PoS network.

    Here I get Edge Speeds with a full 3G signal. I went home for a week and got 1 bar of GPRS 10% of the time. I had to use my mother's AT&T phone to make calls and could barely send text messages. I had to make all my iOS and Android friends install ChatOn so we could text.
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    01-16-2012 12:51 PM
  17. Premium1's Avatar
    I like how you ignored the part of my post where I addressed your comments regarding their "low end" phones. would that be your way of acknowledging your erroneous statement without actually having to admit it publicly?

    I travel a fair amount as well, and I know more than a few other T-Mobile customers, all of whom are pretty satisfied with the network. In my area AT+T has some odd coverage issues (small, random gaps with no signal at all) and I've talked to people with AT+T phones who are very annoyed by that so, using your logic perhaps I should be making broad generalizations about AT+T's "low end network"?
    I guess knowing and traveling all over the country is making a broad generalization. Please do a simple google search or bing for the wp fanboys and you will see how tmo is the worst carrier of the big 4 in the US. Not to mention the phones you mentioned aren't "high end" by any means.
    01-16-2012 01:44 PM
  18. condemned's Avatar
    Sources are now pointing that the 900 with an updated camera is coming to Tmobile later this year.

    Regarding coverage, I've had Tmobile, Verizon and ATT in the last 4 years and have noticed no difference in coverage and data speeds. And with Tmobile being so much cheaper, it was a no brainer to stick with them.
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    01-16-2012 05:43 PM
  19. Winterfang's Avatar
    T-Mobile 3G Here - Obviously a full signal so I know my coverage is good. The coverage all around here is excellent, but the speed is TERRIBLE.

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    I don't think any T-Mobile user should be talking about AT&T's network, which is 10th generation compared to T-Mobile's PoS network.

    Here I get Edge Speeds with a full 3G signal. I went home for a week and got 1 bar of GPRS 10% of the time. I had to use my mother's AT&T phone to make calls and could barely send text messages. I had to make all my iOS and Android friends install ChatOn so we could text.

    What? Now I'm scared. :(
    01-16-2012 08:07 PM
  20. Fallen Cpt Jack's Avatar
    I have a friend who's had T-Mobile for years, and is very happy with them. I seriously considered going with the 710 and a month-to-month plan, but the 900 has me thinking AT&T instead.
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    01-16-2012 10:04 PM
  21. Zumanity's Avatar
    I heard from a source who works in management with T-Mobile that in order to stay competitive, they are looking at innovative handsets that can differentiate them from the competition. They have a road map lined up for 2012 which they say they are "confident our customers, along with switching customers, will be very excited for".

    Not sure what to make of it, but sounds exciting!

    To me personally it sounds like they will be getting a high end Windows device. It might be the same as other carriers, but what "differentiates" T-Mobile is its plans, cost, and service (in a good way)
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    01-16-2012 11:41 PM
  22. crystinonfire's Avatar
    I'm happy with my HTC Radar from T-mobile. I'm also just happy with T-mobile in general. While they might not get the best coverage everywhere, their customer service is amazing and I pay $78 for unlimited everything. YOU CAN'T BEAT THAT. Of course I'd prefer a 900, but I don't really feel like I'm settling with this phone.
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    01-17-2012 06:26 PM
  23. Winterfang's Avatar
    I'm happy with my HTC Radar from T-mobile. I'm also just happy with T-mobile in general. While they might not get the best coverage everywhere, their customer service is amazing and I pay $78 for unlimited everything. YOU CAN'T BEAT THAT. Of course I'd prefer a 900, but I don't really feel like I'm settling with this phone.
    Jesus Christ that's expensive. I only pay 59$ and can't barely made due with that =/.
    01-17-2012 06:30 PM
  24. crystinonfire's Avatar
    Jesus Christ that's expensive. I only pay 59$ and can't barely made due with that =/.
    everyone else i know pays $100-120/month for their phone bills.
    01-17-2012 10:00 PM
  25. brmiller1976's Avatar
    You get what you pay for with tmo. Low end network, low end phones.
    I wouldn't call T-Mobile "low end." Its HSPA+ "4G" data speeds blow the doors off of EVDO on Sprint and Verizon (both of which cost more, the latter, MUCH more), and give AT&T a run for its money.

    Even for LTE, if you're in a T-Mobile service area, you'd be hard-pressed to see a meaningful difference between LTE on Verizon and HSPA+ on T-Mobile, except that your T-Mobile phone will have *much* better battery life, and the data network won't crash twice a month. ;)

    T-Mo can do better. I suspect the real problem with devices was the strategic assumption that the AT&T deal was "more or less done." That kept T from offering competitive high-end devices, since the assumption was that it would be part of AT&T by early 2012.

    Now that it's clear the merger isn't going to happen, I'd expect T-Mobile to get aggressive across the range. For entry-level and mid-range Windows Phones, they've already got the two best (the Lumia 710 and Radar, respectively). I'd expect them to go higher-end ASAP, either with a variant of the Lumia 900 when the AT&T exclusivity is up, or with a competitive device from Samsung, HTC, or another carrier.

    One thing is for sure. I love my $50/month unlimited talk and text with 2 GB 4G data plan. I'd hate to have to pay 2x to 3x as much on another carrier.
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    01-18-2012 12:28 AM
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