- 12-10-2012, 11:32 AM #1
I was just going through some devices of the WP7 family. Found the Titan II. Quite impressed I must say. Any idea if a Titan III is on it's way? Also, if I buy this, I am assuming I am entitled for a 7.8 update right?
Now, the real question, is it good? Also, does it have 3G technology? I am in India and I plan to order it SIM unlocked from US. So, will the network/data/call/msgs work??
- 12-10-2012, 07:20 PM #2
The successor to the Titan II is currently codenamed the HTC Zenith. It is a Windows Phone 8 device reportedly scheduled for Q1 2013 that will likely be priced around $249 in the USA with contract; off contract price for the Zenith will likely be very expensive and obviously it is quite expensive.
It is highly unlikely any company will release another high end WP7 device like the Titan II as WP7 is being phased out in all pricing categories except the budget range; an example of a new WP7 budget device is the Nokia Lumia 510. Titan II will most likely get WP7.8 but it is not guaranteed.
Just keep in mind, if you buy a WP7 device, you will be restricted to the currently available WP7 apps. Though some new WP7 apps will come out, the majority of focus will be on WP8 apps which the Titan II cannot run. Thus if you want newer apps and games, you'd probably better off considering a WP8 device - though you may have to sacrifice screen size and features to get a WP8 phone at a similar price to the Titan II. On the other hand, if you do not really care about apps and will just use the phone for its built-in phone, email, and social networking features, then the Titan II wouldn't be a bad buy.
If available in your country, you might want to consider an HTC 8X which is not as big as the Titan II (only 4.3") but will offer you the new WP8 app ecosystem with faster processor and has an even better camera. Another great option is the Nokia 820. Finally, there is the Samsung ATIV S which is similar both in size and styling to the Titan II, but it runs WP8 - of course it is also quite expensive currently, moreso than any of the devices mentioned so far. There are also some budget WP8 phones out like the Nokia 620 and HTC 8S but be cautious that these phones cannot run all of the WP8 apps as they only have 512mb of RAM instead of the 1GB of RAM more expensive WP8 phones have. Thus I'd recommend spending a bit more for the 8X or 820 so you get access to all of the WP8 apps.
Last edited by Ruined; 12-10-2012 at 07:39 PM.
- 12-11-2012, 06:46 AM #3
Cool. I plan to buy a lower end WP8. I would love to dig into the 8X. But, am already making some other purchase leaving enough money to only get myself a 8S. In fact, that was the same reason I was looking at a WP7. I wanted to have a bigger screen. But you are right, there are more negatives than +.
Also, you mentioned the 8S can't run all the apps, could this mean some day to day apps will suffer. I don't want to repeat my stuttering-Andriod experience again. In fact, that's why I am leaving Android.
- 12-11-2012, 08:11 AM #4
Since the 8S only has 512mb RAM, some higher-end games just plain won't be available - the store will prevent you from downloading them based on your phone spec. Day to day apps should not be affected, however, but again the tradeoff is there are a number of games/apps (probably mostly high-end games) that you won't be able to download at all on the 8S. In other words what is available will be smooth, but you may be shut out from some games on the 8S that use heavy system resources. The 8S is still a better choice than the Titan II, though, if it can only come down to those two phones.
How much more is the Nokia 820 over the 8S? If its not a ton, it would probably be worth saving up that extra chunk, as the Nokia 820 is fully featured w/ 1GB RAM. In the US, the 820 is significantly cheaper than the 8X...
In the end, though, a budget WP8 phone like the 8S with its smooth performance will still give you miles better experience than a budget android - with the android stuttering and sputtering along. So if the 820 is out of the question, I would go with the 8S, as there should still be a wide selection of games that only need 512mb and I believe most apps should be available.
Last edited by Ruined; 12-11-2012 at 08:29 AM.
- 12-11-2012, 08:45 AM #5
My problem would be if day to day experience is hindered. I honestly don't like the 820 though it has very cool specs.
But the 8S is just perfect for me. The only two things now worry me is the 4GB internal memory and the 4" ( hey both are 4 @_O) screen size. I'm coming a 4.3" screen. I would be doing a good amount of reading ( websites, forums) on the phone. Will that be a problem?
Tons of reading and music is the only purpose TBH.
PS: Since we are at it, what colour would u recommend? BLUE or Domino Black?
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- 12-11-2012, 09:24 PM #6I honestly don't like the 820 though it has very cool specs.But the 8S is just perfect for me. The only two things now worry me is the 4GB internal memoryand the 4" ( hey both are 4 @_O) screen size. I'm coming a 4.3" screen. I would be doing a good amount of reading ( websites, forums) on the phone. Will that be a problem?PS: Since we are at it, what colour would u recommend? BLUE or Domino Black?
Last edited by Ruined; 12-11-2012 at 10:07 PM.
- 12-11-2012, 10:38 PM #7
I think I will have to test it out before taking the plunge. .the difference,l at this point is of almost 300$ between the 8X & 8S (19,000 vs 35,000)..
So it is a totally out of question. Unless the price comes down 20,000 or something, I can manage an extra 5K...but I think I just love the 8S's form factor and design...
Soooo much better than the boring 820...so ya...I think I will wait for like a month..
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- 12-12-2012, 12:23 AM #8
From your comments, it sounds like you have your mind set on the 8S, so you might as well check it out in person and if you like it consider going for it - I don't think the storage space will be an issue, in your case I believe it will all boil down to the screen and that you'd need to see in person.
Note that there may be an advantage to waiting (as always) since the 8X should come down in price in a few months when the HTC Zenith is released, don't know how much though. Right now I feel the 8X is artificially inflated in price because it is the best HTC has to offer on WP8, but IMO it is a bit overpriced for what you are getting; not that it is bad or anything, but generally the type of hardware that the 8X has runs in a price bracket just a notch below where it is currently. I believe it should be about 25% cheaper than it is currently going for, but with no other high end WP8 phone I guess HTC is compelled to sell it at a higher price as it is the best they have to offer at the moment - even if the hardware doesn't quite justify the high price. If my guesstimate is right, when the HTC Zenith comes out they will likely lower the price of the 8X to around 27,500-30,000 range - but that won't be until Feb-March 2013.
- 12-12-2012, 12:39 AM #9
What problems should I anticipate with the 8S? I know the 8X has plenty of hardware issues and that's why I am staying away from it. Screen scratches, discoloration at the edges etc..The 920 is no less. There was this one member who's screen literally shattered when he was getting off the car. So much for the hammer and nail test. And Gorilla Glass My ***...
If the 8S is equally bad, it would be wise to stay away. Isn't it?
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- 12-12-2012, 07:49 AM #10
In terms of the 8X discoloration, I assume this is a defect in some batches of the soft coating, but note that the 8S uses exactly the same soft coating. So if HTC is still having an issue with discoloration in some batches, I would venture that the 8S would have the same potential for issue as the 8X with this. In fact, I'd say the 8S you buy has the same potential for all of the problems of the 8X, with exception of the rebooting as this was a software issue that has been fixed.
From my own handling and reading reports on the forums, and I know you don't want to hear this, but the less exciting looking Nokia 822 appears to be the most durable of all of the phones. The screen does not use curved glass (920 has this), which might make it less susceptible to breakage, it is literally built like a tank (or a solid slab as you called it), and it uses a hard matte coating in the black color & hard glossy coating in the white color. It is probably the least stylish Windows Phone 8 device, but if you are going on pure likelihood to stay intact over time I would probably put my bet on the 822 over any of the other Windows Phone 8 devices out there... Second place would likely be the 820, which I venture would be just as durable with exception of exterior shell, but since the exterior shell on the 820 is cheaply replaceable with interchangeable colors that doesn't really matter. After that I'd say its probably a toss up, though Nokia is the most likely to help you with an out of warranty problem vs all the other companies.
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