11-15-2012, 12:28 PM #1
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This is going to be one of those "heard from a friend of a friend" posts so skeptics please don't shoot the messenger!
I was talking to a programmer friend of mine who happens to know a friend that works in the Windows division of MS. We were discussing Windows 8 and the topic of Sinofsky's departure came up. My friend had a big smile on his face (because he hates the start screen) and said that he was told that we should expect big changes to Windows 8 by spring.
Apparently, MS got a lot of feedback from testers saying that they would like options to go straight to desktop, start menu, etc (those problems that a lot of people are complaining about). Windows 8 was Sinofsky's project and he didn't want people messing with his ideas so he was rigid on his stance about no start menu and all the rest. This is where he and others in the company butted heads. With Win 8 not selling as much as they would like they let him go.
So now according to my friend's source, there will most likely be a service pack out in the future (possibly spring) that will make the Windows 8 desktop experience more like Windows 7.
Personally I'm a bit skeptical myself because I don't know how much they would change. Adding a traditional start menu would kind of indicate that MS is conceding that the original idea was a failure. It's then how much they value pride over revenue.
Also, would a service pack really be able to add that type of functionality back? I know they could make cosmetic changes, but there would probably be a lot of work involved in order to change the start screen to desktop behaviour.
- 11-15-2012, 12:52 PM #2
well, Stardock has a Start button replacement program out, and had it pretty much from launch, if not before, so it might not be too difficult for MS to add that functionality back in.
i installed the Stardock program (called "Start 8"), and it is fine...however...i have found that i almost never use it, relying completely on the new interface.
very interesting news, though...i could see something like that happening.
- 11-15-2012, 12:53 PM #3
I've heard this also, and I do agree that on a business desktop PC, the new Start Screen is useless. I've upgraded my work PC to Win8 and I'm only on the desktop, and rarely use the Start Screen. For a touchscreen tablet or notebook? Yes, the tiles would be great!
- 11-15-2012, 12:57 PM #4
You should learn to use snap more often. On a larger, wide-screen display, it's actually pretty nice. I used Windows 8 with two 24" displays when I was doing enterprise tech support for a law enforcement agency. Some aspects of the Start Screen cone in handy, as do some Modern UI apps.
- 11-15-2012, 01:33 PM #6
there are so many stupid start bar utilities now for Windows 8....they are even in the store. One called Classic Start 8 is even free.
After learning all the gestures in 8 (which learning is part of every new OS) it feels positively archaic to go back to the start button.
- 11-15-2012, 02:26 PM #7
I rarely used the Start button to begin with. It got to be more of a handicap on Windows than a benefit. Before switching to Win 8 I always changed the Start button behavior back to the "Classic" interface.
MSFT is better off sticking to their guns and make users adapt. Leaders do not ask for direction. They provide it!
- 11-15-2012, 02:36 PM #8
As long as I can keep my Win 8 as it is currently, no way I'm going back to something that resembles the Windows 7 experience more than it does Windows 8.
I do agree though that not having the options for the traditional things was probably a bad call, but I guess at the same time then many many people would've avoided learning the new UI.
I rarely used the Start-menu in the old system too and when I did, it did absolutely nothing the current system can't do. Basically I see Windows 8 being the goodness of Windows 7 + a LOT of amazing things in addition, so for me Windows 8 is a netgain in every sense to Windows 7.
I constantly find myself cursing at the archaity of Windows 7 when I use devices without Win 8 :P
- 11-15-2012, 03:53 PM #9
- 11-16-2012, 03:46 AM #10
My only thoughts for Windows 8, is how does it work in a business setting. Working with IT, I struggle to see how in the corporate environment; facebook updates and etc... Windows 8 is a positive... Windows 8 definitely is more evolved around the social individual rather than a heavy use corporate or educational environment.
11-16-2012, 03:57 AM #11
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